G5 PowerBook: "...by the end of next year." -Steve Jobs

Freg3000 · Sep 21, 2003, 02:55 PM

From MacMinute

Jobs on PowerBook G5, consolidation of PC industry
September 21, 2003 - 14:41 EDT__ An article on the Spanish Web site 5Dias and an interview in the German publication F.A.Z. offer a few interesting tidbits from Apple CEO Steve Jobs. According to 5Dias, Jobs reportedly said last week that Apple is currently working on a PowerBook G5 and hopes to introduce it "by the end of next year." In the interview with F.A.Z., Jobs said he expects that the computer industry will continue to consolidate, while others will disappear completely from the market. In particular, he said (according to the BableFish translator) "the future position of gateway is very uncertain" and he imagines Sony to withdraw itself completely from the PC business.

johnnowak · Sep 21, 2003, 03:08 PM

Noooooo!!!

Me need G5 laptop by March. :-(

Anyone know anything about this?

Ramsos · Sep 21, 2003, 03:18 PM

I think gateway is moving away from computers and focusing more on electronics such as plasma tvs, digital Cameras, DVD players. home theater systems. etc... I don't even remember that last time i saw a gateway commercial that actually included PC's.

MacsRgr8 · 03:38 PM

Whoa Freg3000....
Gr8 find.
Is Steve suddenly giving roadmaps?
i.e.: "G5 to 3 GHz by this time next year", "Hope to introduce the PB G5 by the end of next year"

????

If the PB won't get the G5 till end of next year.... what will it get until then???
G4 7457??? Highly doubtfull. I can't believe Moto still will deliver processors for Apple next year.
G3 750 GX (or better) ??? Branded the G4-and-a-half... If Moto doesn't deliver any G4's anymore, then I think Apple could brand any PPC with SIMD units a G4. Leave the G5 as a 64 bits CPU, brand any 32 bits CPU with Altivec a G4 (just to take the marketing "age" out of the G3 750 GX)

Very interesting.

QCassidy352 · Sep 21, 2003, 03:33 PM

End of 2004 for a G5 powerbook isn't good news at all.

Giaguara · 04:17 PM

Quote:

this is a year of laptops

a part of its prices, from 1599 and 2999 euros, they are notably better than many laptops that have WIndows OS, and Jobs confirmed that with these models the share of laptops of total computers in apple will raise to 50 % and to be the best year so far (or this or the next year) he afirmed to european journalists.

the revolution will be the laptops with 64 bit processors, g5, that the compnay has developed together with ibm, using 3.000 dollars to develop it. "we are working on it and we'd like to complete it b efore the end of year" (jobs) confirmed.

apple had the last fiscal (economical? tax year?) year 5.489 mln euros of profit (?), with (profit??) 66,3 mln.

sorry i'm tired. desculpe mi spanglish.

microrario · Sep 21, 2003, 03:44 PM

"Reconoció después que la revolución decisiva será la introducción en los portátiles del nuevo chip de 64 bits, G5, que la compañía ha desarrollado junto a IBM, con una inversión de 3.000 millones de dólares. 'Estamos trabajando en ello y lo que nos gustaría es conseguirlo para finales del año que viene', afirmó."

"He believes that after the decisive change there will be an introduction of the new 64 bit G5s into laptops that the company has developed with IBM, with an investment of 3 billion dollars. 'We are working on this and we would like to release this before the end of next year.' he assured."

VladDracul · Sep 21, 2003, 04:05 PM

A slight change on the translation above by microrario (although nothing substantial)

"Reconoció después que la revolución decisiva será la introducción en los portátiles del nuevo chip de 64 bits, G5, que la compañía ha desarrollado junto a IBM, con una inversión de 3.000 millones de dólares. 'Estamos trabajando en ello y lo que nos gustaría es conseguirlo para finales del año que viene', afirmó."

"Afterwards he admitted that the decisive revolution will be the introduction in laptops of the new 64 bits chip, the G5, that the company has developed along with IBM, with an investment of 3 billion dollars. 'We are working on it and what we'd like is to have it by the end of next year', he said".

JSRockit · Sep 21, 2003, 04:05 PM

They better start working on getting the G4 with 512 L2 and L3 of 1mb-2mb going...we're gonna need it.

I was hoping for next summer.

windwaves · Sep 21, 2003, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VladDracul
A slight change on the translation above by microrario (although nothing substantial)

"Reconoció después que la revolución decisiva será la introducción en los portátiles del nuevo chip de 64 bits, G5, que la compañía ha desarrollado junto a IBM, con una inversión de 3.000 millones de dólares. 'Estamos trabajando en ello y lo que nos gustaría es conseguirlo para finales del año que viene', afirmó."

"Afterwards he admitted that the decisive revolution will be the introduction in laptops of the new 64 bits chip, the G5, that the company has developed along with IBM, with an investment of 3 billion dollars. 'We are working on it and what we'd like is to have it by the end of next year', he said".

eventually, someone got it right !!!

microrario · 04:17 PM

Quote:

Even though the prices are between 1,599 and 2,999 euros, and even though there are many laptops with Windows OS, Jobs affirms that Apple laptops will be 50% of the sales of portables 'perhaps the next year or the year after', he said in front of european newswriters.

He recognized afterward that the that decisive revolution will be their introduction of the new 64 bit G5s into laptops that the company has developed with IBM, with an investment of 3 billion dollars. 'We are working on this and we would like to release this before the end of next year.' he assured.

Apple's fiscal gain was 5.489 billion euros, with a profit of 66.3 million.

He is basically saying that after their introduction of G5s into portables, they will have 50% of the sales of portable computers.

Hope this helps.

microrario · 04:15 PM

Sorry about the mistakes, I didn't know what the context of the paragraph was. Look at Page 2 and I translated the whole article, it makes sense now.

[admin edit: threads merged. full translation merged into this thread]

Freg3000 · Sep 21, 2003, 04:14 PM

Apple could announce them in June 2004, and ship them before the end of the year.....in October 2004.

This worries me a bit. Everyone thought that the "before the end of the year" deadlines for Panther and iTMS for Windows were very conservative. However, now some realize that perhaps they are not. Maybe we should take Steve at his word. No G5 PowerBooks for at least a year.

I hope it isn't true.

MacsRgr8 · Sep 21, 2003, 04:17 PM

Safe to say:
NO POWERBOOKS G5 UNTIL END OF 2004?

Here's to 750 GX (Gobi, later Mojave)?
G3 + Altivec, > 1 GHz, > 167 MHz FSB...

Like I said before: Apple can't really brand these the "old" G3's, can they? Or are Apple gonna use the, eh, expected and anticipated G4 7457...? I still think Moto will pull the plug on the G4.....
Let Moto do the cell phones with M$. Serves them right... ha ha.

Hawthorne · Sep 21, 2003, 04:20 PM

I hope they can get it faster, too.

On the other hand, I was quite happy with my Lombard during the years I had a G4 450, so I can wait a year between the rollout of the G5 in a desktop and a G4 in a notebook.

Actually, I have yet to get a G4 notebook, as I'm typing this on my lil' ol' 700mhz iBook, so maybe i'm not the target market on this one....

JSRockit · Sep 21, 2003, 04:22 PM

Since I have the 12" pBook (1st gen), I think I will just wait the year.

Phil Of Mac · Sep 21, 2003, 04:27 PM

I think it's clear that Steve Jobs came from the future.

And he's probably being conservative about "end of the year" here too. Obviously, no one really knows.

panphage · Sep 21, 2003, 04:33 PM

Gobi does not have any Altivec. It was rumored to last year before IBM said anything about it, but not IBM IS talking and there's no altivec.

http://www-3.ibm.com/chips/techlib/t...Microprocessor

alxths · Sep 21, 2003, 04:37 PM

Hmm.. well I'd say its not unlikely that he just gave that date to stop peopel from skipping out on the current pbs in anticipation for a g5 powerbook. He could be just trying to get us all to by new pbs now.. and then new g5s when they're released in ...summerish? I dunno.. just thought id throw it out there.

dongmin · Sep 21, 2003, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
And he's probably being conservative about "end of the year" here too. Obviously, no one really knows.

Yeah it's hard to make any real inferences from this statement. But it sounds like it's later than sooner, no? Second half of 2004, maybe. That means we'll have at least one more G4 update. Wow, I didn't think the G4 had any legs left.

JSRockit · Sep 21, 2003, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dongmin
Yeah it's hard to make any real inferences from this statement. But it sounds like it's later than sooner, no? Second half of 2004, maybe. That means we'll have at least one more G4 update. Wow, I didn't think the G4 had any legs left.

If apple says one date, add a few weeks/ months to that timeframe (history has taught us this).

esheep2001 · Sep 21, 2003, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dongmin
Yeah it's hard to make any real inferences from this statement. But it sounds like it's later than sooner, no? Second half of 2004, maybe. That means we'll have at least one more G4 update. Wow, I didn't think the G4 had any legs left.

Hmm, the last 15" update took 10 months. There doesn't need to be an update and frankly I'd bevery suprised if there is. I expect Apple to be working flat out on the G5.

e.

JSRockit · Sep 21, 2003, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by esheep2001
Hmm, the last 15" update took 10 months. There doesn't need to be an update and frankly I'd bevery suprised if there is. I expect Apple to be working flat out on the G5.

e.

Yeah, I agree...I don't think we will see another G4 update.

Stella · Sep 21, 2003, 04:48 PM

Its really no surprise Apple have been working on G5s PB.

Apple want > 50% of their sales to be laptops.. and people want G5 laptops.. in contrast to - people want Blue tooth mice, but don't want (generally) one mouse button - sorry, I couldn't resist!

I'm surprised that if it really does take as long as December '94 for apple to get G5 PB out though..

Nutzoids · 04:57 PM

A year away isn't that long if you think about it. It's just one more Quite Revision...maybe just a speed bump. Next year (2004) should be the year for the Desktop. G5 PowerMac hits 3GHz...then 2005 is the year of the Laptop again...2GHz G5 PowerBooks...1.6 G5 for iBooks and iMacs...I can't expect too much more this year...Apple really out did themselves!

Way to Go Steve!

Sep 21, 2003, 02:55 PM	#1
Freg3000 macrumors 68000 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: New York	G5 PowerBook: "...by the end of next year." -Steve Jobs From MacMinute Jobs on PowerBook G5, consolidation of PC industry September 21, 2003 - 14:41 EDT__ An article on the Spanish Web site 5Dias and an interview in the German publication F.A.Z. offer a few interesting tidbits from Apple CEO Steve Jobs. According to 5Dias, Jobs reportedly said last week that Apple is currently working on a PowerBook G5 and hopes to introduce it "by the end of next year." In the interview with F.A.Z., Jobs said he expects that the computer industry will continue to consolidate, while others will disappear completely from the market. In particular, he said (according to the BableFish translator) "the future position of gateway is very uncertain" and he imagines Sony to withdraw itself completely from the PC business. __________________ FregTK This Is Momentum.

Sep 21, 2003, 03:18 PM	#3
Ramsos macrumors regular Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Oakland, California	I think gateway is moving away from computers and focusing more on electronics such as plasma tvs, digital Cameras, DVD players. home theater systems. etc... I don't even remember that last time i saw a gateway commercial that actually included PC's. __________________ Switcher since 2001 -7- Macs so far.

Sep 21, 2003, 03:29 PM	#4
MacsRgr8 macrumors 601 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Netherlands	Whoa Freg3000.... Gr8 find. Is Steve suddenly giving roadmaps? i.e.: "G5 to 3 GHz by this time next year", "Hope to introduce the PB G5 by the end of next year" ???? If the PB won't get the G5 till end of next year.... what will it get until then??? G4 7457??? Highly doubtfull. I can't believe Moto still will deliver processors for Apple next year. G3 750 GX (or better) ??? Branded the G4-and-a-half... If Moto doesn't deliver any G4's anymore, then I think Apple could brand any PPC with SIMD units a G4. Leave the G5 as a 64 bits CPU, brand any 32 bits CPU with Altivec a G4 (just to take the marketing "age" out of the G3 750 GX) Very interesting. __________________ Drag and Drop for Windows users: DRAG your peecee off your desk, and DROP it in the trash. Last edited by MacsRgr8 : Sep 21, 2003 at 03:38 PM.

Sep 21, 2003, 03:33 PM	#5
QCassidy352 Contributor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Boston, MA	End of 2004 for a G5 powerbook isn't good news at all. __________________ "If Jesus Himself came back to earth and turned water to wine, half of MacRumors would say 'meh, this is red. I wanted white.'"

Sep 21, 2003, 04:12 PM	#12
microrario macrumors member Join Date: Sep 2003	Sorry about the mistakes, I didn't know what the context of the paragraph was. Look at Page 2 and I translated the whole article, it makes sense now. [admin edit: threads merged. full translation merged into this thread] Last edited by arn : Sep 21, 2003 at 04:15 PM.

Sep 21, 2003, 03:08 PM	#2
johnnowak macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New York, New York	Noooooo!!! Me need G5 laptop by March. :-( Anyone know anything about this?

Sep 21, 2003, 03:44 PM	#7
microrario macrumors member Join Date: Sep 2003	"Reconoció después que la revolución decisiva será la introducción en los portátiles del nuevo chip de 64 bits, G5, que la compañía ha desarrollado junto a IBM, con una inversión de 3.000 millones de dólares. 'Estamos trabajando en ello y lo que nos gustaría es conseguirlo para finales del año que viene', afirmó." "He believes that after the decisive change there will be an introduction of the new 64 bit G5s into laptops that the company has developed with IBM, with an investment of 3 billion dollars. 'We are working on this and we would like to release this before the end of next year.' he assured."

Sep 21, 2003, 04:05 PM	#8
VladDracul macrumors member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South Beach	A slight change on the translation above by microrario (although nothing substantial) "Reconoció después que la revolución decisiva será la introducción en los portátiles del nuevo chip de 64 bits, G5, que la compañía ha desarrollado junto a IBM, con una inversión de 3.000 millones de dólares. 'Estamos trabajando en ello y lo que nos gustaría es conseguirlo para finales del año que viene', afirmó." "Afterwards he admitted that the decisive revolution will be the introduction in laptops of the new 64 bits chip, the G5, that the company has developed along with IBM, with an investment of 3 billion dollars. 'We are working on it and what we'd like is to have it by the end of next year', he said".

Sep 21, 2003, 04:05 PM	#9
JSRockit macrumors 6502a Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Jersey City, NJ	They better start working on getting the G4 with 512 L2 and L3 of 1mb-2mb going...we're gonna need it. I was hoping for next summer.

Sep 21, 2003, 04:14 PM	#13
Freg3000 Thread Starter macrumors 68000 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: New York	Apple could announce them in June 2004, and ship them before the end of the year.....in October 2004. This worries me a bit. Everyone thought that the "before the end of the year" deadlines for Panther and iTMS for Windows were very conservative. However, now some realize that perhaps they are not. Maybe we should take Steve at his word. No G5 PowerBooks for at least a year. I hope it isn't true. __________________ FregTK This Is Momentum.

Sep 21, 2003, 04:17 PM	#14
MacsRgr8 macrumors 601 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Netherlands	Safe to say: NO POWERBOOKS G5 UNTIL END OF 2004? Here's to 750 GX (Gobi, later Mojave)? G3 + Altivec, > 1 GHz, > 167 MHz FSB... Like I said before: Apple can't really brand these the "old" G3's, can they? Or are Apple gonna use the, eh, expected and anticipated G4 7457...? I still think Moto will pull the plug on the G4..... Let Moto do the cell phones with M$. Serves them right... ha ha. __________________ Drag and Drop for Windows users: DRAG your peecee off your desk, and DROP it in the trash.

Sep 21, 2003, 04:20 PM	#15
Hawthorne macrumors regular Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: In front of my Mac	I hope they can get it faster, too. On the other hand, I was quite happy with my Lombard during the years I had a G4 450, so I can wait a year between the rollout of the G5 in a desktop and a G4 in a notebook. Actually, I have yet to get a G4 notebook, as I'm typing this on my lil' ol' 700mhz iBook, so maybe i'm not the target market on this one.... __________________ Good posters copy their .sig. Great ones steal them.

Sep 21, 2003, 04:22 PM	#16
JSRockit macrumors 6502a Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Jersey City, NJ	Since I have the 12" pBook (1st gen), I think I will just wait the year.

Sep 21, 2003, 04:27 PM	#17
Phil Of Mac Banned Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Washington State University	I think it's clear that Steve Jobs came from the future. And he's probably being conservative about "end of the year" here too. Obviously, no one really knows.

Sep 21, 2003, 04:33 PM	#18
panphage macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jul 2003	Gobi does not have any Altivec. It was rumored to last year before IBM said anything about it, but not IBM IS talking and there's no altivec. http://www-3.ibm.com/chips/techlib/t...Microprocessor

Sep 21, 2003, 04:37 PM	#19
alxths macrumors 6502 Join Date: Apr 2003	Hmm.. well I'd say its not unlikely that he just gave that date to stop peopel from skipping out on the current pbs in anticipation for a g5 powerbook. He could be just trying to get us all to by new pbs now.. and then new g5s when they're released in ...summerish? I dunno.. just thought id throw it out there.

Sep 21, 2003, 04:48 PM	#24
Stella macrumors 68040 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada	Its really no surprise Apple have been working on G5s PB. Apple want > 50% of their sales to be laptops.. and people want G5 laptops.. in contrast to - people want Blue tooth mice, but don't want (generally) one mouse button - sorry, I couldn't resist! I'm surprised that if it really does take as long as December '94 for apple to get G5 PB out though.. __________________ iPhone: The cell phone for communists and censorship

Sep 21, 2003, 04:53 PM	#25
Nutzoids macrumors member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philly	A year away isn't that long if you think about it. It's just one more Quite Revision...maybe just a speed bump. Next year (2004) should be the year for the Desktop. G5 PowerMac hits 3GHz...then 2005 is the year of the Laptop again...2GHz G5 PowerBooks...1.6 G5 for iBooks and iMacs...I can't expect too much more this year...Apple really out did themselves! Way to Go Steve! __________________ The Switcher! from PC--> to Mac... baby! Last edited by Nutzoids : Sep 21, 2003 at 04:57 PM.

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