Boot Camp Beta Expires December 31st

MacRumors · Nov 28, 2007, 03:50 PM

Apple emailed those who downloaded the Boot Camp beta and let them know that with the introduction of Leopard, Boot Camp Beta is over. The Boot Camp Beta software will expire on December 31, and Apple won't offer further updates of Boot Camp Beta for Mac OS X Tiger.

Boot Camp allows Intel-Mac owners to dual-boot into Windows. It is now a standard feature of Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard).

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kornyboy · 03:55 PM

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That kind of stinks for people not wanting to upgrade just yet.

That is if they mean it won't work when they say "expire."

PlaceofDis · Nov 28, 2007, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kornyboy

That kind of stinks for people not wanting to upgrade just yet.

its not like this is breaking news. its always been said that it would expire once leopard was released.

ross.32 · Nov 28, 2007, 03:56 PM

Just because they do not offer updates, could we still use it as it? Or does it just stop working?

kornyboy · Nov 28, 2007, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PlaceofDis

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Originally Posted by kornyboy

That kind of stinks for people not wanting to upgrade just yet.

its not like this is breaking news. its always been said that it would expire once leopard was released.

True, but does expiring mean that it won't work at all or that they are discontinuing updates? I'm just curious.

ITASOR · Nov 28, 2007, 04:40 PM

Bootcamp is just the utility. If you already used it to partition and install Windows, nothing is going to change with that (pretty sure). It's possible the bootcamp app may no longer work, but I'm sure someone will figure something out.

macaddiict · Nov 28, 2007, 04:40 PM

I agree - I wasn't clear from the email whether the beta software will keep working or if it has some sort of time bomb built in... hopefully it will just keep chugging along without updates. Anything else would be horrible on Apple's part.

Eidorian · Nov 28, 2007, 04:42 PM

*yawn*

Burn your drive disc or save the image. It'll be a pain to partition but you didn't really have to use Boot Camp to begin with.

SeanMcg · 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ITASOR

Bootcamp is just the utility. If you already used it to partition and install Windows, nothing is going to change with that (pretty sure). It's possible the bootcamp app may no longer work, but I'm sure someone will figure something out.

However, if you need to remove the Windows partition, or if you replace the hard drive and need to re-configure, you will need to change your system time in order to run to the BootCamp Assistant Beta. This comes straight from Apple

Apple just won't update the drivers or functionality of the beta.

dukebound85 · Nov 28, 2007, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ross.32

Just because they do not offer updates, could we still use it as it? Or does it just stop working?

it works but you will be unable to delete the partition with bootcamp assistant

UNLESS you go back and change your system clock to a date before it expired

Schtumple · Nov 28, 2007, 07:45 PM

Wasn't this said months ago and no-one really complained?

Why kick up a small stink about it now?

bluebomberman · Nov 28, 2007, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Schtumple

Wasn't this said months ago and no-one really complained?

Why kick up a small stink about it now?

It's like tax time. Everybody knows it's coming but some people still aren't ready for the time suck and the financial hit.

dvkid · Nov 28, 2007, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bluebomberman

It's like tax time. Everybody knows it's coming but some people still aren't ready for the time suck and the financial hit.

I couldn't find where on Apple.com you can go to file your extension...

CommodityFetish · Nov 29, 2007, 12:13 AM

I wonder if they ever would have released it as a beta if people hadn't hacked a way to do it, forcing apple's hand, as it were, to save their user base from the messy process of the hack, and the support issues etc...

On the other hand, it has helped them sell macs in those 18 months... so maybe it was in the cards all along.

Doctor Q · Nov 29, 2007, 12:41 AM

I think the email is a nice reminder wrapped in a thank-you wrapped in a sales pitch. Good job, Apple.

MidiMonk · Nov 29, 2007, 02:38 AM

Apple must have realized I was planning on purchasing XP pro instead of Leopard.

Sharewaredemon · Nov 29, 2007, 02:41 AM

If you install leopard, does that mean that you also have the proper non-beta version of bootcamp?

seems like a silly question, but I already had bootcamp installed in tiger, and a windows partition up and running when I installed tiger so I feel the leopard installation didn't touch my windows partition.

dukebound85 · Nov 29, 2007, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sharewaredemon

If you install leopard, does that mean that you also have the proper non-beta version of bootcamp?

seems like a silly question, but I already had bootcamp installed in tiger, and a windows partition up and running when I installed tiger so I feel the leopard installation didn't touch my windows partition.

yup. leopard didnt touch install but overwrote bootcamp so you can select the drive as well as run the assistant

demenas · Nov 29, 2007, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ross.32

Just because they do not offer updates, could we still use it as it? Or does it just stop working?

I don't think there is anything to stop you booting into Windows. Boot Camp is not a boot loader and plays no part in your system's ability to bootup into Windows. I imagine what you will not be able to do is run the tool to ceate the driver disk & edit partitions. (I think all the partitioning tasks can be done from terminal if you know the utilities & syntax to run).

Steve

demenas · Nov 29, 2007, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by dukebound85

it works but you will be unable to delete the partition with bootcamp assistant

UNLESS you go back and change your system clock to a date before it expired

Or you do it from terminal using the native OS X partitioning command(s).

Steve

mkaake · Nov 29, 2007, 06:03 AM

Well, they pulled the installer the same weekend Leopard was introduced (which sucked, because I had some trouble-shooting to do on a bootcamp partition, and couldn't update the utility or find it anywhere for download anymore), so unless you already have the most up to date version (is it 1.4?), you're kind of stuck already.

As for the beta not working anymore, I've heard that the (extremely cheesy) clock trick works - just back yourself up in time, and it'll continue to work if you need to get something done.

twoodcc · Nov 29, 2007, 07:36 AM

glad that they are moving on. wouldn't surprise me if they sell you a version for tiger though

RichardI · Nov 29, 2007, 07:46 AM

Err...so what? I have Tiger, BootCamp Beta installed and running smoothly. I installed the ATI video drivers over the Boot Camp ones anyway. Why would I even care about this? I think this is a non-issue isn't it??

Rich

awatiker · Nov 29, 2007, 09:12 AM

The only part of this I find surprising is the fact that you can not remove Boot Camp after December 31. Obviously knowledgeable users can trick the system by changing the clock, but for the less informed, it doesn't seem very user friendly that they can not run the assistant just to remove the partition, unless I'm confused about how this will work.

george maringer · Nov 29, 2007, 11:08 AM

It has been confirmed by my apple representative that users will not be able to access their bootcamp partition after 12/31/2007.
All files on the partition will be there but you will not be able to access them until you switch to Leopard.

Nov 28, 2007, 03:50 PM	#1
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ITASOR macrumors 68040 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Oneida, NY	Bootcamp is just the utility. If you already used it to partition and install Windows, nothing is going to change with that (pretty sure). It's possible the bootcamp app may no longer work, but I'm sure someone will figure something out. __________________ Alumium MacBook 2.0Ghz C2D \| 2GB RAM \| 320GB HD \| Snow Leopard

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Eidorian macrumors G3 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Indiana	yawn Burn your drive disc or save the image. It'll be a pain to partition but you didn't really have to use Boot Camp to begin with. __________________ MRoogle it! hikari T7500 2.2 GHz / 4 GB / 320 GB / GMA X3100 / 10.5.8 chobimaru Core i5 750 2.66 GHz / 4 GB / 640 GB / 4830 / Windows 7

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Schtumple macrumors 68040 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: There >	Wasn't this said months ago and no-one really complained? Why kick up a small stink about it now? __________________ My Music 3rd party software is NOT made by Apple

Nov 28, 2007, 03:56 PM	#4
ross.32 macrumors 6502 Join Date: May 2007	Just because they do not offer updates, could we still use it as it? Or does it just stop working?

Nov 28, 2007, 04:40 PM	#7
macaddiict macrumors newbie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: OKC & Lubbock, TX	I agree - I wasn't clear from the email whether the beta software will keep working or if it has some sort of time bomb built in... hopefully it will just keep chugging along without updates. Anything else would be horrible on Apple's part.

Nov 29, 2007, 12:13 AM	#14
CommodityFetish macrumors regular Join Date: May 2006 Location: Syracuse, NY	I wonder if they ever would have released it as a beta if people hadn't hacked a way to do it, forcing apple's hand, as it were, to save their user base from the messy process of the hack, and the support issues etc... On the other hand, it has helped them sell macs in those 18 months... so maybe it was in the cards all along.

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Doctor Q macrumors god Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: at the table with countless relatives	I think the email is a nice reminder wrapped in a thank-you wrapped in a sales pitch. Good job, Apple. __________________ "You've just been abducted, of course you need crepes!" -- Walter Bishop

Nov 29, 2007, 02:38 AM	#16
MidiMonk macrumors regular Join Date: Jun 2007	Apple must have realized I was planning on purchasing XP pro instead of Leopard.

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Sharewaredemon macrumors 68000 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pitch forking mulch in Nova Scotia, Canada	If you install leopard, does that mean that you also have the proper non-beta version of bootcamp? seems like a silly question, but I already had bootcamp installed in tiger, and a windows partition up and running when I installed tiger so I feel the leopard installation didn't touch my windows partition. __________________ MacBook Pro - Black 6G 80GB iPod - 1GB iPod Shuffle. - [flickr]

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mkaake macrumors 65816 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: mi	Well, they pulled the installer the same weekend Leopard was introduced (which sucked, because I had some trouble-shooting to do on a bootcamp partition, and couldn't update the utility or find it anywhere for download anymore), so unless you already have the most up to date version (is it 1.4?), you're kind of stuck already. As for the beta not working anymore, I've heard that the (extremely cheesy) clock trick works - just back yourself up in time, and it'll continue to work if you need to get something done. __________________ oh, and no, i don't j-walk

Nov 29, 2007, 07:36 AM	#22
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Nov 29, 2007, 07:46 AM	#23
RichardI macrumors 6502 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Southern Ontario, Canada	Err...so what? I have Tiger, BootCamp Beta installed and running smoothly. I installed the ATI video drivers over the Boot Camp ones anyway. Why would I even care about this? I think this is a non-issue isn't it?? Rich __________________ iMac 24", 2.8 Ghz., 4 Gb. ram, HD2600 Pro, 750Gb. Hard Drive, OSX 10.6.X (latest) MagicMouse, CH Fighterstick. iPod Shuffle (2nd G) 1 Gb.

Nov 29, 2007, 09:12 AM	#24
awatiker macrumors newbie Join Date: Sep 2006	The only part of this I find surprising is the fact that you can not remove Boot Camp after December 31. Obviously knowledgeable users can trick the system by changing the clock, but for the less informed, it doesn't seem very user friendly that they can not run the assistant just to remove the partition, unless I'm confused about how this will work.

Nov 29, 2007, 11:08 AM	#25
george maringer macrumors newbie Join Date: Nov 2007	Boot Camp expiry It has been confirmed by my apple representative that users will not be able to access their bootcamp partition after 12/31/2007. All files on the partition will be there but you will not be able to access them until you switch to Leopard.

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