Next Generation iPhone Pushed to Mid-Late Summer 2008?

[MacRumors]

An EETimes report that a Friedman Billings Ramsey & Co. Inc. analyst believes that the 2nd Generation iPhone has been pushed into the mid-to-late summer 2008:

...due to a pushout in the introduction of such 'killer applications' as the second-generation iPhone from the March/April time frame to mid to late summer, demand for NAND in 1H08 could weaken more than expected,"

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[Drumjim85]

no surprise, I've been guessing a late summer / fall all along ..

[Doctor Q]

It's a tradeoff, I guess. The longer they wait, the more features they can add and improve.

[dashiel]

i'd be interested to know how an unannounced product can be "pushed back" or "delayed".

we all know iphone 2.0 is coming, but it hasn't been announced, it hasn't been hinted at – by apple, and really mid-to-late summer is just about correct. the ipod is on a yearly upgrade cycle i suspect iphone will be too.

[RichP]

Originally Posted by dashiel

i'd be interested to know how an unannounced product can be "pushed back" or "delayed".

we all know iphone 2.0 is coming, but it hasn't been announced, it hasn't been hinted at – by apple, and really mid-to-late summer is just about correct. the ipod is on a yearly upgrade cycle i suspect iphone will be too.

I concur. I would have thought late summer-early fall to get ready for next holiday season. These phones just came out in Europe, only a few months before an update would be way to short a lifecycle.

[gkarris]

Originally Posted by Doctor Q

It's a tradeoff, I guess. The longer they wait, the more features they can add and improve.

Yea, like good screens...

[Octobot]

They just want you to keep buying iphones..
I'm in no hurry.

[Cheese]

I've been a revision hold out since my mistake with the rev A G5 iMac. I guess it will give me more time to set funds aside...

[Nitrocide]

Originally Posted by Cheese

I've been a revision hold out since my mistake with the rev A G5 iMac. I guess it will give me more time to set funds aside...

As an effected 1st gen PM G5 and 1st gen MBP buyer, I totally agree.

I dont understand how apple gets products so wrong in the 1st gen sometimes. I shouldnt have to be self servicing parts. I think by next year my MBP will probabaly only be 10% original in parts!

[ilanasaysrawr]

What do you guys think will be some drastic improvements on the iPhone?
-software wise?
-memory wise?

[biecacka]

does anyone know if a nextel sim card will work in an unlocked iphone

[cheekybobcat]

Originally Posted by Doctor Q

It's a tradeoff, I guess. The longer they wait, the more features they can add and improve.

Either that or build up "dramatic tension" that will make people want it more.
Basic marketing....

[iDmitry]

Honestly...I don't know about you guys but I am not going to keep buying new iPhones, it's stupid. All of you people who say I can't wait for this to come out or I can't wait for that to come out are probably rich and spoiled. If you own a iPhone now and are planning to just lay it down and buy the new one when it comes out are dumb. We should demand them to keep releasing updates for the one we've already got.

[JFreak]

Originally Posted by iDmitry

All of you people who say I can't wait for this to come out or I can't wait for that to come out are probably rich and spoiled.

What a generalization and complete bull*hit. Did you know there is a whole big world outside US and not all of us have to be embarassed about having Bush as a leader? iPhone will never be a success in Europe until it has 3G, you can mark my words if you like; but if you think that all people outside US are rich and spoiled you can think again.

[twoodcc]

Originally Posted by Drumjim85

no surprise, I've been guessing a late summer / fall all along ..

yeah me too. that'd make it a year from the first one.

[jayducharme]

I wonder how significant this line is:

demand for NAND in 1H08 could weaken more than expected

If the demand weakens, I would expect the price to drop. Perhaps Apple is holding off until they can get a sweeter deal on NAND prices.

[jericho53]

3G iPhone confirmed.

http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/patterso...FHBKytqDMWLZA5

[Leo74]

I agree with the 'year later' timeframe, but we should all remember two things. One, the iPhone was announced at MacWorld 07, so an announcment at the upcoming MacWorld 08 would put it squarely on that year later update timeframe. Two, now that Apple has entered the cell phone world, it will no longer benefit from surprise product launches, at least not in what concerns the iPhone. The FCC approval process is months long, and is also public, so secrets do not apply. That's why the original iPhone took so long between announcement and launch. So, yeah, it may be late Summer by the time it's released, but chances are, it wil be announced much sooner. I'm not sure I'd put money on MacWorld, but it shouldn't be too long after that.

[nbs2]

I'm surprised we aren't hearing rumors of a minor bump in the meanwhile. Something like a capacity bump or more potent battery would have been a sales booster during that post-Christmas lull.

Rereading Leo's post, he has a good point. I just wonder what requires FCC approval and what doesn't. Could the battery/drive be boosted without notice? Or is every little change going to be public ahead of time?

[jnc]

hmph. Never expected it before April anyway, figured it'd be something to announce around Apple's 31st.

My current n95 contract doesn't run out until Nov 08 anyway so... doesn't bother me

[EagerDragon]

Chucks, my current contract expires in April!!!!!!

I guess ill have to go month to month until the new one comes out.

As to the FCC, it should only take 6 weeks to get approval based on what I heard. A second gen phone takes a lot less to go thru the cycle. Hope that is correct.

[mrparet]

Are we talking a significant upgrade or just the addition of 3G? Like others have said, the iPhone was just released in Europe. It wouldn't make sense for Apple to update the phone so soon. Not to menion the fact that people in America would raise all hell if Apple did something so soon.

[boss1]

Originally Posted by nbs2

I'm surprised we aren't hearing rumors of a minor bump in the meanwhile. Something like a capacity bump or more potent battery would have been a sales booster during that post-Christmas lull.

Rereading Leo's post, he has a good point. I just wonder what requires FCC approval and what doesn't. Could the battery/drive be boosted without notice? Or is every little change going to be public ahead of time?

I'm no expert on the matter, but I would imagine:
Something simple like a change of the color of the casing would not require FCC approval where as a change in the communication type of the device such as 3G would require FCC approval.


and on that note....anyone looking for a good price on a second hand 1st gen iPhone (condition: like new)?

[nbs2]

Originally Posted by boss1

I'm no expert on the matter, but I would imagine:
Something simple like a change of the color of the casing would not require FCC approval where as a change in the communication type of the device such as 3G would require FCC approval.

Those two ends of the spectrum make sense. My curiosity is directed towards points in the middle - change internal circuitry, but not changing anything having to do with communication. The battery is probably irrelevant, as others have reminded me of the old two battery option, which I presume didn't require two approvals (did it?). But, memory capacity is a stranger animal.

[biecacka]

Originally Posted by boss1

I'm no expert on the matter, but I would imagine:
Something simple like a change of the color of the casing would not require FCC approval where as a change in the communication type of the device such as 3G would require FCC approval.


and on that note....anyone looking for a good price on a second hand 1st gen iPhone (condition: like new)?

yes i would be very intersted in the phone. what version of firmware does it have on it?