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I was gonna buy leopard with my christmas money... but after serveral thoughts I

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togermano

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decided not too....

I just bought the mac in september and after looking at the features and playing around with it at the apple store.. I decided I won't be shelling out the 125 dollars for it. I mainly wanted it because it probly would have better intel and duel core support.... But after playing around with it at the apple store I didn't notice a difference in speed... It seems like leopard is basically windows 98 compared to 95... Just updated apps and a slightly different new look with alittle more bloat to go with it. Anyone else agree with this?
 
togermano said:
It seems like leopard is basically windows 98 compared to 95... Just updated apps and a slightly different new look with alittle more bloat to go with it. Anyone else agree with this?
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No, i don't agree with that at all 😱 I'm just waiting for all the tasty core-animation apps...
 
Eidorian said:
September?

Are you sure you don't qualify for this?
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According to that site:

"Customers who purchase a qualifying new Macintosh computer or an Apple Certified Refurbished computer from the Apple Online Store on or after October 1, 2007 that does not have Mac OS X v10.5 Leopard included can upgrade to Leopard."


I bought mine in September too... I was kinda ticked, haha.
 
plus with some apps and games not working with leopard yet thats another problem i didn't buy it
 
Leopard is leaps and bounds faster on my Mac Pro. It's a big difference that I noticed RIGHT away. It's the downgraded Spotlight and the Disappointing stacks that make it not as easy to use. Other than a few things, I think it's overall better than Tiger and I'm sure Apple will fix the quirks in future updates... it's already been said that they're modifying stacks to bring the old hierarchy view back.
 
There are two things that I don't like about Leopard.

1. CUPS browsing is no longer enabled by default 😕
2. Non-admin users can no longer add printers.

That is all.
 
Actually, under the hood Leopard is probably the biggest change since 10.0, so no, it's not like Win95 vs 98 🙄 There's been some fairly major changes and at least one highly respected developer I know of (Rixstep) consider Leopard to be essentially a new platform.

Stick with Tiger if you're comfortable, but there are already applications that only offer their full feature set when running on Leopard, so there is going to come a time that you're going to get left behind.
 
I remember there were quite a few people, back in Jun, claimed leopard would be so much faster than Tiger, lol, Guess not...

anyway, you can get leopard for $109 at newegg.com, or amazon, or jr.com. etc..
 
togermano said:
decided not too....

Anyone else agree with this?
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Yes, I do. I've heard too many bad things about Leopard (bugs etc.), the new features make the user interface inconsistent and hard to use (and Time Machine is just a half-assed backup solution). I'll stick to OS X 10.4.
 
togermano said:
decided not too....

I just bought the mac in september and after looking at the features and playing around with it at the apple store.. I decided I won't be shelling out the 125 dollars for it. I mainly wanted it because it probly would have better intel and duel core support.... But after playing around with it at the apple store I didn't notice a difference in speed... It seems like leopard is basically windows 98 compared to 95... Just updated apps and a slightly different new look with alittle more bloat to go with it. Anyone else agree with this?
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Leopard is a 64 bit OS and IS faster then Tiger on newer machines. But if Tiger is working for you, and you are happy, then there is no need to move to Leopard. So wait.
 
I decided to not buy a Porsche, does that mean I start a thread about it? No.

My point is: so what? Thats ok that you decided not to, you have your reasons so lets move on.

I myself often said that Leopard is not a NEED, its a WANT. There is no need to upgrade for most people, but most people want it.

As for bugs. I would like the OP to point out some that would directly affect him/her. I myself had not come across one bug yet. While they may be there, not all have and HP printer over a wireless VPN with a Cisco 5620 router. Not all bugs affect everyone.

I did not need it, but I am happy I upgraded. I have it on my new iMac and purchased a copy for my 1.25Ghz G4 Titanium Powerbook. It "feels" faster than Tiger and Spotlight is not a great App launcher since its finally snappy. I dont use spaces and likely never will - but I said that about Expose and use that ALL the time now. Time Machine works REALLY well but is not meant to be used daily, its JUST a back-up solution. If you have to use it so much that it bugs you, well then you have other problems. Stacks suck, but they are growing on me. The new "list" feature of stacks will be much welcome, but it will not be my default. Networking is working well.

So I did not need it, but I am glad to have it. I have other friends that asked me about it, and the ones I felt did not need it I told them so.
 
togermano said:
Just updated apps and a slightly different new look with alittle more bloat to go with it. Anyone else agree with this?
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I don't agree either. There really isn't any Bloat. I do understand not paying for it if you don't have that much money. Go spend it on other video games or something. The OS isn't that big of a deal.
 
JimmyDThing said:
According to that site:

"Customers who purchase a qualifying new Macintosh computer or an Apple Certified Refurbished computer from the Apple Online Store on or after October 1, 2007 that does not have Mac OS X v10.5 Leopard included can upgrade to Leopard."


I bought mine in September too... I was kinda ticked, haha.
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FWIW, I bought a mini in late September (delivery was in October) and still qualified for the up-to-date program. If this applies to you, I'd at least see if you qualify for the up-to-date program
 
unity said:
I decided to not buy a Porsche, does that mean I start a thread about it? No.
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there is a thing called freedom of speech. OP can say whatever he wants, as long as its a civil discussion.

can't always ask other people to behave just like each other.
vansouza said:
Leopard is a 64 bit OS and IS faster then Tiger on newer machines.
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I am not sure about that, I guess its all about what your tasks are. most day-2-day users won't feel much about it. and even for CPU intense tasks, that speed difference is based on the assumption that apple makes leopard good enough to be able to take advantages of 64bit cpu. Its a big assumption if you ask me.
GimmeSlack12 said:
I don't agree either. There really isn't any Bloat. I do understand not paying for it if you don't have that much money. Go spend it on other video games or something. The OS isn't that big of a deal.
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I don't know what you call it, But Tiger requires 3G HDD space. While Leopard asks for 9G, Its a significant "bloat" if you ask me, considering the changes on the surface, as well as under the hood.
 
clevin said:
I am not sure about that, I guess its all about what your tasks are. most day-2-day users won't feel much about it. and even for CPU intense tasks, that speed difference is based on the assumption that apple makes leopard good enough to be able to take advantages of 64bit cpu. Its a big assumption if you ask me.
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That you are right about. 64 bit does not equate speed, so going from 32 bit to 64 bit is not a speed increase. However, it can address larger amounts of RAM. Was 32 limited to 4GB chunks? I forget.
 
weg said:
Yes, I do. I've heard too many bad things about Leopard (bugs etc.), the new features make the user interface inconsistent and hard to use (and Time Machine is just a half-assed backup solution). I'll stick to OS X 10.4.
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Tiger had a ton of bugs when it was first released... get over it. Also, Time Machine works WONDERFULLY! It has never failed on me and it's almost worth getting Leopard just because of Time Machine. I love it. The UI is way more consistent than the previous versions of OS X and it's MUCH faster. Why wouldn't that be a reason to upgrade? Also, you can stay on Tiger but, for how long? You'll start to see a lot of Apps being developed that say "Leopard Only" because of the "under the hood" changes in Leopard that make for developing way better Apps that can utilize Leopard to the fullest. So have fun with that. Also, you hear a lot of bad things about Leopard because most likely you are looking on these forums where people are posting about problems and bugs but, that doesn't mean that everyone has these problems... it all depends on your exact configuration and needs. People on these forums are most likely looking for help and if someone doesn't have a problem with something, they're most likely not going to post on a web forum because there would be nothing to post about.
 
unity said:
That you are right about. 64 bit does not equate speed, so going from 32 bit to 64 bit is not a speed increase. However, it can address larger amounts of RAM. Was 32 limited to 4GB chunks? I forget.
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i think so, but im not sure about the #.

about the only app that will be able to take advantages of it is apple's own BIG apps like iMove, FCP etc. Adobe already said they won't do 64bit photoshop for mac, I really can't imagine 64bit being a big thing for leopard, since when 64bit eventually being significant adopted, OSX 10.7 would be out.
 
unity said:
I decided to not buy a Porsche, does that mean I start a thread about it? No.

My point is: so what? Thats ok that you decided not to, you have your reasons so lets move on.

I myself often said that Leopard is not a NEED, its a WANT. There is no need to upgrade for most people, but most people want it.

As for bugs. I would like the OP to point out some that would directly affect him/her. I myself had not come across one bug yet. While they may be there, not all have and HP printer over a wireless VPN with a Cisco 5620 router. Not all bugs affect everyone.

I did not need it, but I am happy I upgraded. I have it on my new iMac and purchased a copy for my 1.25Ghz G4 Titanium Powerbook. It "feels" faster than Tiger and Spotlight is not a great App launcher since its finally snappy. I dont use spaces and likely never will - but I said that about Expose and use that ALL the time now. Time Machine works REALLY well but is not meant to be used daily, its JUST a back-up solution. If you have to use it so much that it bugs you, well then you have other problems. Stacks suck, but they are growing on me. The new "list" feature of stacks will be much welcome, but it will not be my default. Networking is working well.

So I did not need it, but I am glad to have it. I have other friends that asked me about it, and the ones I felt did not need it I told them so.
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So what? That's OK you decided to get Leopard, you have your reasons, so lets move on.

😉
 
clevin said:
I am not sure about that, I guess its all about what your tasks are. most day-2-day users won't feel much about it. and even for CPU intense tasks, that speed difference is based on the assumption that apple makes leopard good enough to be able to take advantages of 64bit cpu. Its a big assumption if you ask me.
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Leopard is a 64 bit OS on 64 bit processors and 32 on 32 bit processors. That is a fact not an assumption.
 
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