Mac OS X 10.3 Panther Build 7B85 Posted to ADC

MacRumors · 06:20 PM

Apple has released Mac OS X 10.3 Panther Build 7B85 to Premier Apple Developers via their Apple Developer Connection website.

The first reports of Panther going Gold Master appeared on October 1st from various sources on the web.

Despite significant debate, it does appear build 7B85 is the Gold Master build which has gone to duplication.

Apple officially announced Panther's release to be on October 24th at 8pm.

shadowfax · Oct 14, 2003, 06:06 PM

it seems like someone was tellilng me they had found exposé bugs in 7b85... is that true?

i wonder how many days it will be out before we catch 10.3.1...

blueBomber · Oct 14, 2003, 06:09 PM

um.... now I'm wondering if I want to upgrade to panther so quickly on my perfectly working jaguar install

....

yeah, I'm going to

dongmin · Oct 14, 2003, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by shadowfax
it seems like someone was tellilng me they had found exposé bugs in 7b85... is that true?

Can you be more specific? It works wihtout a hitch on my iBook 500.

Speaking of which, my 500th post!!!

mkjellman · Oct 14, 2003, 06:11 PM

I am an ADC member and it is not posted just 10.2.8......Just FYI

From Win to Mac · Oct 14, 2003, 06:15 PM

i'm also an ADC member. I'm a student. We don't get those seeds. Only Select Members get them.

J@ffa · Oct 14, 2003, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by blueBomber
um.... now I'm wondering if I want to upgrade to panther so quickly on my perfectly working jaguar install

....

yeah, I'm going to

Me too

huckleup · Oct 14, 2003, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by From Win to Mac
i'm also an ADC member. I'm a student. We don't get those seeds. Only Select Members get them.

I believe it is only available to Premier members (as the original post says) and not even Select members.

LostInAMac · Oct 14, 2003, 06:34 PM

Does anyone know if you can still use the hack so that you can have multiple monitors on your iBook without mirroring on Panther?
I am not really sure of how the hack works and whether it would be affected, has anyone tried it with one of the earlier versions of Panther?

Thanks a lot

bignumbers · Oct 14, 2003, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by huckleup
I believe it is only available to Premier members (as the original post says) and not even Select members.

You know, this really gets my goat. I'm a Select member, and have verified I don't have this build for download. In the differences between Select and Premiere there's nothing about Premiere members having better build options. If anything, the descriptions in this regard are exactly the same. The differences are mainly in WWDC attendance and support availability. Is my software less important to test on Panther just because I paid Apple a few hundred dollars less?

Arghh!

shadowfax · Oct 14, 2003, 06:36 PM

i would bet that there will be an update to the hack within about a week or 2 after the panther release, if the current hack stops working

gallenx · Oct 14, 2003, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bignumbers
You know, this really gets my goat. I'm a Select member, and have verified I don't have this build for download. In the differences between Select and Premiere there's nothing about Premiere members having better build options. If anything, the descriptions in this regard are exactly the same. The differences are mainly in WWDC attendance and support availability. Is my software less important to test on Panther just because I paid Apple a few hundred dollars less?

Arghh!

I wouldn't worry about it too much. You'll probably have access soon. They're probably just trying to make sure their servers don't get absolutely destroyed by the traffic. Give it a few days.

I just hope they give it to the WWDC attendees. I'd really rather not wait till the November mailing to get it for free. :-)

BrandonRP0123 · Oct 14, 2003, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by shadowfax
it seems like someone was tellilng me they had found exposé bugs in 7b85... is that true?

i wonder how many days it will be out before we catch 10.3.1...

Do you have more data on the Expose bug? I certainly can't find one through vast combinations of expose + command+tab, etc.

7B85 is very stable and I haven't noticed any real problems or bugs yet (just new features, obviously)

MrMacMan · Oct 14, 2003, 07:07 PM

Officalness is good.

Note: Officalness is not a word... but it should be. To be officially offical.

There we go.

aaroncd · Oct 14, 2003, 07:09 PM

I tried it, and while it seems cool, there is a MAJOR bug which basically renders it unusable, any window that you move, or scroll, keeps the original content, like say you drag a window across the screen, it moves, but anything that was in the window stays where it was on the screen, to clean it i have to minimize it to the dock, then bring it up again. every time i get or send a message in iChat, same thing.

I have a g4 400 AGP, upgraded with a gigadesigns 800, and one of the apple nVidia geForce 4 MX (32M) cards in it.

Aaron

WM. · Oct 14, 2003, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LostInAMac
Does anyone know if you can still use the hack so that you can have multiple monitors on your iBook without mirroring on Panther?
I am not really sure of how the hack works and whether it would be affected, has anyone tried it with one of the earlier versions of Panther?

Not a developer, pirate, or owner of a Radeon-equipped iBook, but I can tell you that that's a very low-level hack (a script that runs in Open Firmware at boot), and my guess is that unless Apple has specifically modified the OS to break it, it should work just great in Panther.

W "king of long, single-sentence posts" M

Anthd15 · Oct 14, 2003, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LostInAMac
Does anyone know if you can still use the hack so that you can have multiple monitors on your iBook without mirroring on Panther?
I am not really sure of how the hack works and whether it would be affected, has anyone tried it with one of the earlier versions of Panther?

Thanks a lot

I applied the same hack on my 17" iMac and it still works after upgrading to Panther 7B68. I'd imagine it would be the same for your iBook. Hope this helps.

cnladd · 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LostInAMac
Does anyone know if you can still use the hack so that you can have multiple monitors on your iBook without mirroring on Panther?
I am not really sure of how the hack works and whether it would be affected, has anyone tried it with one of the earlier versions of Panther?

Thanks a lot

Yes, I've verified that this still works with 7B85.

Linc · Oct 14, 2003, 07:56 PM

Hi All, has anyone tried out Studio MX 2004 or Contribute under 7b85? The programs wont start for me.. it bounces for a few seconds and then they disappear. Also I had to reboot the other day, and when I logged back in all my menu items were gone.. I was kinda hoping 7b85 wasn't going to be the GM. Oh well I guess I just have to wait for 10.3.1

deejemon · Oct 14, 2003, 08:20 PM

I'm a Select member, not Premier, and 7B85 has shown up. Downloading it now.

deejemon · Oct 14, 2003, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Linc
Oh well I guess I just have to wait for 10.3.1

Or Studio MX 2004.1 (or 2004.January, or whatever their numbering scheme is going to be).

Off topic, but it's annoying that Studio MX 2004 installs a copy of Opera for every app. They should really have just installed one centrally in /Library or something.

earlopogous · Oct 14, 2003, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LostInAMac
Does anyone know if you can still use the hack so that you can have multiple monitors on your iBook without mirroring on Panther?
I am not really sure of how the hack works and whether it would be affected, has anyone tried it with one of the earlier versions of Panther?

Thanks a lot

Unless apple changed open firmware, it should work. It really has almost nothing to do with the OS, just the firmware.

bitfactory · Oct 14, 2003, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by deejemon
I'm a Select member, not Premier, and 7B85 has shown up. Downloading it now.

hmmm - not for me.

lmalave · Oct 14, 2003, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bignumbers
You know, this really gets my goat. I'm a Select member, and have verified I don't have this build for download. In the differences between Select and Premiere there's nothing about Premiere members having better build options. If anything, the descriptions in this regard are exactly the same. The differences are mainly in WWDC attendance and support availability. Is my software less important to test on Panther just because I paid Apple a few hundred dollars less?

Arghh!

A few hundred dollars? Isn't Select $500 vs. $3500 for Premier?

lmalave · Oct 14, 2003, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by From Win to Mac
i'm also an ADC member. I'm a student. We don't get those seeds. Only Select Members get them.

I'm in the Student Developer program too. I don't know if we'll get a downloadable version, but we'll definitely get Panther in the mail on CD.

Oct 14, 2003, 06:03 PM	#1
MacRumors macrumors bot Join Date: Apr 2001	Mac OS X 10.3 Panther Build 7B85 Posted to ADC Apple has released Mac OS X 10.3 Panther Build 7B85 to Premier Apple Developers via their Apple Developer Connection website. The first reports of Panther going Gold Master appeared on October 1st from various sources on the web. Despite significant debate, it does appear build 7B85 is the Gold Master build which has gone to duplication. Apple officially announced Panther's release to be on October 24th at 8pm. Last edited by arn : Oct 14, 2003 at 06:20 PM.

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aaroncd macrumors newbie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kosovo	i hope not.... I tried it, and while it seems cool, there is a MAJOR bug which basically renders it unusable, any window that you move, or scroll, keeps the original content, like say you drag a window across the screen, it moves, but anything that was in the window stays where it was on the screen, to clean it i have to minimize it to the dock, then bring it up again. every time i get or send a message in iChat, same thing. I have a g4 400 AGP, upgraded with a gigadesigns 800, and one of the apple nVidia geForce 4 MX (32M) cards in it. Aaron

Oct 14, 2003, 07:56 PM	#19
Linc macrumors newbie Join Date: Jul 2003	Macromedia Hi All, has anyone tried out Studio MX 2004 or Contribute under 7b85? The programs wont start for me.. it bounces for a few seconds and then they disappear. Also I had to reboot the other day, and when I logged back in all my menu items were gone.. I was kinda hoping 7b85 wasn't going to be the GM. Oh well I guess I just have to wait for 10.3.1

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deejemon macrumors regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Australia	Select members now I'm a Select member, not Premier, and 7B85 has shown up. Downloading it now.

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