Sneaky Apple

richard371 · Feb 1, 2008, 03:33 PM

I went to the Apple store in SF today and they had about 6 Airs out. I did notice they seemed pretty snappy. I looked at the profiler and they are all the 1.8 ssd model. It seemed snappy at opening and closing programs due to the SSD drive but for the extra 1300 no thanks. It was only formated to 53gb. I am sure apple made all the displays the faster model to help sales.

They have not done anything dishonest as the tags next to the demo list both models and the sales person will tell you it is the faster model.

GimmeSlack12 · Feb 1, 2008, 03:38 PM

So what's the sneaky part?

aiongiant · Feb 1, 2008, 03:43 PM

yea not really sure what the sneaky part is

as a biz u don't really want to show off your slowest model.. you always want to put up the best

notjustjay · Feb 1, 2008, 03:46 PM

Yeah, nothing new there. I always marvelled at how fast the Mac Pros were at the Apple Store, then looked at the spec tag... yikes!

Given that hard drive replacement isn't HUGELY daunting, I expect we'll see more and more third party solutions as time goes.

And I wonder how long it'll be before someone outfits a MacBook Pro with an SSD drive. (Or, in the space of a single 2.5" drive enclosure, fit in both an SSD card for OS and application storage, and a 1.8" drive for data...)

richard371 · Feb 1, 2008, 04:05 PM

You would think they would put a couple of the slower ones out for comparison.

jblodgett · Feb 1, 2008, 04:55 PM

Sort of like when you go to the car dealership - and all the cars with no bells and no whistles are sitting on the showroom floor.

Jon Morgan · Feb 1, 2008, 05:09 PM

I just got back to my desk from a walk down to the Stockton Street store and despite being incredibly annoyed that they told me they did have a few in stock but they sold very quickly, I can confirm that at least one of the demo models is a 1.6 - I know because I was using it, and very zippy it was too.

jbg232 · Feb 1, 2008, 05:18 PM

The boston cambridge store has two of the 1.6ghz versions and only one of the 1.8ghz's on display so I don't think they're being very sneaky.

JSchwage · Feb 1, 2008, 05:20 PM

I don't see how this is sneaky at all. No store puts out their lowest-end computers for people to try.

kwood · Feb 1, 2008, 05:33 PM

Obviously it is going to vary from store to store. But I do not see it sneaky to put the fastest ones on display. Maybe they knew not a lot of people would buy the SSD option and decided to put them on display thus leaving more of the 1.6GHz models available.

Aside from that, it just seems like good marketing to me. Like jblodgett said, you don't put the low end stuff out when you're looking to sell a product. It's not as if the Apple store is advertising the the display SSD 1.8GHz models as the 1.6GHz models.

roland.g · Feb 1, 2008, 06:06 PM

Maybe they should have it next to a 12" PowerBook so it seems really fast.

robrose20 · Feb 1, 2008, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richard371

I went to the Apple store in SF today and they had about 6 Airs out. I did notice they seemed pretty snappy. I looked at the profiler and they are all the 1.8 ssd model. It seemed snappy at opening and closing programs due to the SSD drive but for the extra 1300 no thanks. It was only formated to 53gb. I am sure apple made all the displays the faster model to help sales.

They have not done anything dishonest as the tags next to the demo list both models and the sales person will tell you it is the faster model.

Thats not sneaky, what would be sneaky is if they put out the 1.8/SSD and claimed it was the 1.6/HDD .. That would be sneaky.

profiteor · Feb 1, 2008, 10:07 PM

Hm, it's not too sneaky. It's not as bad as what they do to the poor Mac mini. Next time you go to an Apple store, try to find it.

ClassicBean · Feb 1, 2008, 10:16 PM

I am very, very sneaky, sir...

qpid · Feb 1, 2008, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notjustjay

And I wonder how long it'll be before someone outfits a MacBook Pro with an SSD drive.

done

Feb 1, 2008, 03:33 PM	#1
richard371 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Feb 2008	Sneaky Apple I went to the Apple store in SF today and they had about 6 Airs out. I did notice they seemed pretty snappy. I looked at the profiler and they are all the 1.8 ssd model. It seemed snappy at opening and closing programs due to the SSD drive but for the extra 1300 no thanks. It was only formated to 53gb. I am sure apple made all the displays the faster model to help sales. They have not done anything dishonest as the tags next to the demo list both models and the sales person will tell you it is the faster model.
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Feb 1, 2008, 03:38 PM	#2
GimmeSlack12 macrumors 603 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Francisco	So what's the sneaky part? __________________ iMac 24" iBook G4 iPhone 4 iPod 80Gb
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Feb 1, 2008, 03:43 PM	#3
aiongiant macrumors 6502a Join Date: Aug 2006	yea not really sure what the sneaky part is as a biz u don't really want to show off your slowest model.. you always want to put up the best __________________ Macbook Air 1.6Ghz, 2GB, 80GB HDD + Superdrive iPhone 8GB Mac Pro Quad 3GHz 4GB RAM, 3TB HDD, BFG 8800 GTX + Nvidia 7300
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Feb 1, 2008, 03:46 PM	#4
notjustjay macrumors 603 Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Canada, eh?	Yeah, nothing new there. I always marvelled at how fast the Mac Pros were at the Apple Store, then looked at the spec tag... yikes! Given that hard drive replacement isn't HUGELY daunting, I expect we'll see more and more third party solutions as time goes. And I wonder how long it'll be before someone outfits a MacBook Pro with an SSD drive. (Or, in the space of a single 2.5" drive enclosure, fit in both an SSD card for OS and application storage, and a 1.8" drive for data...) __________________ .
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jbg232 macrumors 65816 Join Date: Oct 2007	The boston cambridge store has two of the 1.6ghz versions and only one of the 1.8ghz's on display so I don't think they're being very sneaky. __________________ Macbook \| iPad \| iPhone \| Apple TV 5D Mark III \| 24-105L \| 100-400L \| 50 f/1.4 \| 50 f/2.8 Macro \| 580 EX II
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Feb 1, 2008, 04:05 PM	#5
richard371 Thread Starter macrumors 6502a Join Date: Feb 2008	You would think they would put a couple of the slower ones out for comparison.
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Feb 1, 2008, 04:55 PM	#6
jblodgett macrumors regular Join Date: Jun 2005	Sort of like when you go to the car dealership - and all the cars with no bells and no whistles are sitting on the showroom floor.
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Feb 1, 2008, 05:09 PM	#7
Jon Morgan macrumors newbie Join Date: Feb 2008	I just got back to my desk from a walk down to the Stockton Street store and despite being incredibly annoyed that they told me they did have a few in stock but they sold very quickly, I can confirm that at least one of the demo models is a 1.6 - I know because I was using it, and very zippy it was too.
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JSchwage macrumors 6502a Join Date: May 2006 Location: Rochester, NY	I don't see how this is sneaky at all. No store puts out their lowest-end computers for people to try. __________________ Tech Lobby - The place wherein I write hardware reviews MacBook / 2.0 GHz Core 2 Duo / 2 GB RAM
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Feb 1, 2008, 05:33 PM	#10
kwood macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In the Great White North.	Obviously it is going to vary from store to store. But I do not see it sneaky to put the fastest ones on display. Maybe they knew not a lot of people would buy the SSD option and decided to put them on display thus leaving more of the 1.6GHz models available. Aside from that, it just seems like good marketing to me. Like jblodgett said, you don't put the low end stuff out when you're looking to sell a product. It's not as if the Apple store is advertising the the display SSD 1.8GHz models as the 1.6GHz models. __________________ Wait! Come back, he didn't mean it, he's a musician!
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roland.g macrumors 601 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: One mile up and soaring	Maybe they should have it next to a 12" PowerBook so it seems really fast. __________________ I know this because Tyler knows this. You are not a beautiful snowflake. You are the same decaying matter as everything else.
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Feb 1, 2008, 10:07 PM	#13
profiteor macrumors member Join Date: Jan 2008	Hm, it's not too sneaky. It's not as bad as what they do to the poor Mac mini. Next time you go to an Apple store, try to find it. __________________ Proven Apple Fanboy! Mac Pro 1,1 2.66GHz/8GB MacBook 1,1 2GHz/2GB MacBook Air 1,1 1.8GHz/2GB/SSD and the PowerBook/MacBook museum...
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ClassicBean macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Torontoland	I am very, very sneaky, sir... __________________ Words for sale at LewinCreative.com.
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