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Old Feb 26, 2008, 09:27 AM   #1
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Since I'm upgrading from a 12" PB 1GHz G4 with 32MB VRAM I think the base 15" model will suffice. Definitely adding the Apple Remote for Ł14.

My question then:
- 250GB 5200RPM or 200GB 7200RPM?
I have read that despite the common belief the faster HD drains the battery (much) faster, this is not generally true.

At the same time, having the faster spinning disk does not necessarily mean everything is going to run faster. It depends more on what your general usage is going to be i.e. working with large files/frequent disk access/many small files etc.

I know im going with the faster disk though regardless.
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Old Feb 26, 2008, 09:30 AM   #2
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I am really confused, probably like other people. The European versions of the 2 later MBP models only have 256MB of GDDR3 SDRAM in the graphics cards whereas the US version have 512MB!

US : http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/specs.html
UK/ES : http://www.apple.com/uk/macbookpro/specs.html

What a con!
Read the full thread already. Someone contacted Apple and it is a TYPO!!!!!!
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Old Feb 26, 2008, 09:08 AM   #3
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No, they didn't - mine came with my 17" MBP for free. Cheap bastards. If you're going to pay damned near $3000 for a laptop then they can throw in a bloody $20 remote control for free. Normally you get more stuff as standard with later models, not less...

I wasn't in the market for a new MBP but I'm honestly pretty disgusted to see that the remote is an "optional extra" now. For shame, Apple.
At this point, most people already have a remote... I bought one with an iPod dock when they were first released. I also have another one in the house for my roomie's macbook pro. a lot of people have one for apple tv. it's really not that big of a deal.
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Old Feb 26, 2008, 09:14 AM   #4
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I'm a little underwhelmed with this update. Drop the prices of BTO RAM from "Rape and Pillage" level to "First Born Child" level, remove the Apple Remote as being standard...in exchange for a small speed bump, drop to 45nm architecture, and a jump in standard hard drive size. Gee, thanks

Overall though, at least they finally got something out the door...I was starting to think this was going to turn into a Cloudbook
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Old Feb 26, 2008, 09:16 AM   #5
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Well my 3 month old MBP doesn't feel left out yet. Maybe in another 8 months or so, I can get a new one when it redesigns and give mine to my wife.
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Old Feb 26, 2008, 09:21 AM   #6
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I'm a little underwhelmed with this update. Drop the prices of BTO RAM from "Rape and Pillage" level to "First Born Child" level, remove the Apple Remote as being standard...in exchange for a small speed bump, drop to 45nm architecture, and a jump in standard hard drive size. Gee, thanks

Overall though, at least they finally got something out the door...I was starting to think this was going to turn into a Cloudbook
it's ok, but i was hoping for the new keyboard as well, i dont like the keyboard on the macbook pro...makes my hands tired. Maybe higher resolution on the 15.4" would be nice, but my eyes arent that great anyway i guess
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Old Feb 26, 2008, 09:20 AM   #7
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There was a report awhile back in which, if memory serves, an Apple rep said that it was purely software (touchpad drivers, etc.) and not a hardware upgrade. A bigger trackpad might be useful, I suppose, but there shouldn't even be anything limiting the inclusion of multitouch in order machines (something Apple typically doesn't do, if anyone's had an iPod heh).

This doesn't get at the question directly, but it does hint that there should be no reason to put it in other machines.
Not true at all. Multitouch requires a hardware update. Cannot remember the name of the chip, but it is in the iPhone and iPod Touch. Without it, no pinch and zoom etc.
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Old Feb 26, 2008, 09:33 AM   #8
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A fair update. Nothing too crazy, but enough to warrant an upgrade. Expecting anything more at this time is wishful thinking.
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Old Feb 26, 2008, 10:09 AM   #9
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At this point, most people already have a remote... I bought one with an iPod dock when they were first released. I also have another one in the house for my roomie's macbook pro. a lot of people have one for apple tv. it's really not that big of a deal.
Just because you do multiple remotes doesn't mean everyone does. I have never met anyone that has an apple tv, or has purchased an apple remote
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Old Feb 26, 2008, 10:11 AM   #10
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No magnetic latch?
No higher res screens?
No larger trackpad?
Same old keyboard...

This computer is looking TIRED. C'mon the least I thought they would do is bring the keyboard into line with the rest of the models. I can't believe I've waited months for this. How underwhelming.
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Old Feb 26, 2008, 10:14 AM   #11
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At this point, most people already have a remote... I bought one with an iPod dock when they were first released. I also have another one in the house for my roomie's macbook pro. a lot of people have one for apple tv. it's really not that big of a deal.
Switchers won't have a remote. And many of them will not want to pay 19.00 for a remote because they won't know why it's so handy (from experience anyways) you are right many Apple fanboys (myself included) do have multiple remotes, but mine all already have their dedicated place, AppleTV, Ipod AV Dock, MAcBook Pro, Mc Mini.

If I were to go get a MacBook or MacBookPro I would want a remote for it so I could keep it in the carrying case, not shared with my other devices.
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Old Feb 26, 2008, 01:45 PM   #12
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Just because you do multiple remotes doesn't mean everyone does. I have never met anyone that has an apple tv, or has purchased an apple remote
True, you definitely have a point. I guess I just see it as a non-issue because I assume that most mac loyalists will already have a remote (from one product or another), or "newbies" who are buying an apple laptop (which, let's be honest, is more expensive than most other brands of laptops) aren't going to mind throwing in that extra $20 on top of their purchase.

But I definitely agree, it is lame that they're not including it... especially considering that it *is* only $20.
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Old Feb 26, 2008, 09:09 AM   #13
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Ouch. Have they always charged you for the Apple remote? Because they do now. $19.
They were always just included...they were never an option to get - when you bought a new Mac it just came with the apple remote...weird.
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Old Feb 26, 2008, 09:16 AM   #14
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I think it's pretty bad of Apple to start 'removing' the remote.

Here have Front Row, but sorry if you want to enjoy it at a distance give me some more dollars. This reminds me of when Apple used to give you a dock with the iPod, now you pay extra for it, but the price stays the same for the actual product. They have very much become a greedy company.

Google have it right, one of their CEO's was asked why they keep the "I'm feeling lucky" button on the homepage, despite the fact nobody uses it. The reply was along the lines of, once you start taking away from the product something that has always been there, the customer will get angry.
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Old Feb 26, 2008, 06:12 PM   #15
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Heading over to Mall of America to pick up the 2.5GHz version after waiting 6+ months. Finally the day has come. Now we wait for the iPhone SDK.
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Old Feb 26, 2008, 06:41 PM   #16
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Damn good updates - most people will be very pleased compared to what you could get just yesterday.

For me, I am still waiting for the redesigned latch, keyboard etc., and even for a 12 inch MBP that I know will never come.

Taking out the remote is cheap and totally uncalled for. That smacks of stupidity and greed. Rather like Apple's astonishingly offensive RAM prices that feed on those who don't know better. Shameful.
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Old Feb 26, 2008, 10:46 AM   #17
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Ouch. Have they always charged you for the Apple remote? Because they do now. $19.
I just spoke with livechat on apple store and here's what they said:


Me: Why $19 remote?

Apple: A lot of people were confused by it, and didn't take advantage of it.

Apple: By making it a customization, it may help people better use the device - and many may have it already from a previous Mac.
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Old Feb 26, 2008, 11:09 AM   #18
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I like the hi-res idea..

I like the idea of having multiple resolution options on the MBPs... Now just move that ability over to the 15" and I'll upgrade!
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Old Mar 5, 2008, 01:20 PM   #19
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Ouch. Have they always charged you for the Apple remote? Because they do now. $19.
yes but now you get a schnazzy cloth to clean the screen w/!!!
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Old Feb 26, 2008, 08:39 AM   #20
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Wow, MacBooks are pretty close in specs to MacBook Pro's!
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Old Feb 26, 2008, 08:40 AM   #21
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Multi-Touch = software?

The trackpad looks the same as our current MacBookPro.
Is this upgradable by software perhaps?
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Old Feb 26, 2008, 08:42 AM   #22
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I'm surprised they are so close in specs...glad to see they bumped up the RAM on the Graphics Card
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Old Feb 26, 2008, 09:07 AM   #23
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Old Feb 26, 2008, 09:10 AM   #24
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I ordered mine with a 200GB 7200RPM hdd and high res screen

Can't wait for it to get shipped
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Old Feb 26, 2008, 09:25 AM   #25
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the macbook pros need a facelift badly...... I will pass and stick with my Air.
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