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Mac OS X should be available for the PC platform

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StateCCM

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Mar 18, 2008
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the system specifications for Macs are crap. their Motherboards are garbage and id prefer to use an AMD CPU rather than an intel. plus, Macs are waaaay too overpriced.

ive built an amazing rig on newegg for 1000$. and installing OS X86 is a real pain.

i think apple would make a lot of money if they released a PC version of their OS.
 
Nope. They kinda did this quite a few years ago and it practically destroyed the company.

OS X is so good because it runs on hardware for which it was designed specifically.

This conversation has happened a million times before on the forum.
 
Much Ado said:
That's interesting, because I think it would destroy one of Apple's key markets.
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It did when Apple allowed clones.

It's a bad idea since Apple is 1) a hardware company first and foremost and 2) would destroy OS X's "it just works" montra because they'd have to support an insane amount of devices. I don't know about everyone else but I like my computer to "just work" and not have to fight with it all the time like when I was using Windows on a PC.

Old Chinese proverb: Buy expensive, Cry once.
 
QuarterSwede said:
It did when Apple allowed clones. It's a bad idea since Apple is 1) a hardware company first and foremost and 2) would destroy OS X's "it just works" montra
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Ah, but you are forgetting the key market of newegg.com users who would like to run it on their custom-spec PCs. ;)

Yeah. Massive market for Apple there [Sarcasm smiley]
 
Much Ado said:
Ah, but you are forgetting the key market of newegg.com users who would like to run it on their custom-spec PCs. ;)

Yeah. Massive market for Apple there [Sarcasm smiley]
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so i guess apple makes money by ripping people off with their low performance rigs?

just like the iphone when it was overpriced by 100$...
wish i could have waited a couple of months before buying it :( i could really use that 100$
 
i agree about bundle business mode.

But I also have the feeling that apple isn't capable of dealing with large scale hardware variations as PC industry now has. It can't even do it quite right in time on Macs.
 
StateCCM said:
the system specifications for Macs are crap. their Motherboards are garbage and id prefer to use an AMD CPU rather than an intel. plus, Macs are waaaay too overpriced.
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I always wonder if the people asking these kinds of questions actually use their computers for anything. Notice he says "specifications for Macs are crap". He does not say anything like "The preview panel display lags the slider control even for simple filters in Photoshop CS3" (It doesn't on any current Mac.) People who use computers tend to talk about practical mattrs that impact usage
 
StateCCM said:
so i guess apple makes money by ripping people off with their low performance rigs?

just like the iphone when it was overpriced by 100$...
wish i could have waited a couple of months before buying it :( i could really use that 100$
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Macs are now more CPU oriented then their Windows only counterparts. I'll agree they should make more well rounded machines but Steve just wants his megahertz. :rolleyes:

What characteristic(s) would you use to define a low performance rig?
 
StateCCM said:
so i guess apple makes money by ripping people off with their low performance rigs?

just like the iphone when it was overpriced by 100$...
wish i could have waited a couple of months before buying it :( i could really use that 100$
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That's how Apple makes 35% margins. Its all about selling hardware and using OSX to do that. I could argue that the Mac Pro is actually very price competitive in its 8 core form.

clevin said:
i agree about bundle business mode.

But I also have the feeling that apple isn't capable of dealing with large scale hardware variations as PC industry now has. It can't even do it quite right in time on Macs.
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And SJ even said that's what he admired most about Windows (i.e. we aren't going there).
 
Eidorian said:
Macs are now more CPU oriented then their Windows only counterparts. I'll agree they should make more well rounded machines but Steve just wants his megahertz. :rolleyes:

What characteristic(s) would you use to define a low performance rig?
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It also sounds like he hasn't used a current Mac Pro or iMac. My fathers 24" iMac is fast enough to not have anything he runs lag. Only a gamer would say Mac hardware was slow.
 
QuarterSwede said:
It also sounds like he hasn't used a current Mac Pro or iMac. My fathers 24" iMac is fast enough to not have anything he runs lag. Oh wait, he's not a gamer ... Morons.
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As you can see from my signature I have two computers. My encoding and gaming minitower and my MacBook for travel. I love them both and they do their tasks well. I'd rather take two cheaper computers and have them complement each other them one lump sum on a single expensive machine. I've still spent less then a MacBook Pro w/ education discount. :p

I would have loved a Mac Pro but I can't very well take that on the road can I? ;)
 
Eidorian said:
As you can see from my signature I have two computers. My encoding and gaming minitower and my MacBook for travel. I love them both and they do their tasks well. I'd rather take two cheaper computers and have them complement each other them one lump sum on a single expensive machine. I've still spent less then a MacBook Pro w/ education discount. :p

I would have loved a Mac Pro but I can't very well take that on the road can I? ;)
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While I was referring to the OP, I would've ponied up the extra cash for a MBP. Consolidation is worth it.
 
QuarterSwede said:
While I was referring to the OP, I would've ponied up the extra cash for a MBP. Consolidation is worth it.
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I was only elaborating on how I resolved my situation. That is all. I know you were referring to the OP. I had an iMac two years ago and it's in my sibling's care now. I feels more like a Mac then my laptop does from the user experience on the all-in-one desktop. The iMac is great in my opinion but it doesn't suit me much anymore.

I think the MacBook is more then enough. I just use the DVI and VGA ports on my monitor when I have to swap between the computers. I want a gaming rig with an upgradeable graphics card and a desktop is the only solution there.

Maybe you should use Forum Spy if you're not already.
 
Eidorian said:
I was only elaborating on how I resolved my situation. That is all. I know you were referring to the OP. I had an iMac two years ago and it's in my sibling's care now. I feels more like a Mac then my laptop does from the user experience on the all-in-one.
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Good grief you respond fast! Sorry, I tend to post then edit quite often. I know, bad habit.
 
Why do you prefer AMD? Intel has been handing its ass to them for a couple years now. Sure AMD was the best when it was Athlon vs Pentium, but they have nothing that can compete with the Core 2 Duo. Plus if you went with Core 2 Duo youd be having a really easy time getting OSx86 to work.

As for the clones almost killing Apple I think it needs to be recognized that this was before Ive. Apple was already dying before the clones, Ive saved their ass. These days a lot of people only buy macs because of their aesthetics since having a stylish computer has become a popular thing to consider, Apple would be perfectly safe from clones if they can retain the crown for having the best looking computers while making a little extra money on the side from licensing.
 
StateCCM said:
the system specifications for Macs are crap. their Motherboards are garbage and id prefer to use an AMD CPU rather than an intel. plus, Macs are waaaay too overpriced.
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Ugh not again. Spec me a PC on Newegg that has the same specification and monitor that the iMac has and I'll be surprised if it will be the same price.

The Mac Pro is the cheapest prebuilt PC available with those level of specs from ANY computer manufacturer.

Plus AMD CPUs are slower than Intel CPUs, what are you complaining about?
 
You wouldn't be paying $129 for OS X, you would be paying ~$400 if Apple ever released a “PC version” of OS X.
 
elppa said:
You wouldn't be paying $129 for OS X, you would be paying ~$400 if Apple ever released a “PC version” of OS X.
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why?
stainlessliquid said:
Sure AMD was the best when it was Athlon vs Pentium, but they have nothing that can compete with the Core 2 Duo. Plus if you went with Core 2 Duo youd be having a really easy time getting OSx86 to work.
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AMD is cheaper, generally more energy effective, and there is Athlonx2 64. Performance is that bad neither.
 
I think the OP gave up. Obviously he doesn't know what he is talking about. If macs are such crap, then why are they highly used in the media industry?
 
Cromulent said:
Ugh not again. Spec me a PC on Newegg that has the same specification and monitor that the iMac has and I'll be surprised if it will be the same price.

The Mac Pro is the cheapest prebuilt PC available with those level of specs from ANY computer manufacturer.

Plus AMD CPUs are slower than Intel CPUs, what are you complaining about?
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People who are anti-Mac have a hard time understanding this concept. I dared my Mac-hating friend to find me a WinPC that is cheaper than even the Macbook for identical specs. He couldn't do it, I eventually had to do it for him, (I found one from I think HP after a while looking, it was about $100 cheaper) and then try to explain to him some key points about resale value, security, included software, Operating system, et cetera (obviously if you hate Mac OS X, getting a Mac is not your best option). His argument was that he could find a $700 PC with a graphics card like a Macbook Pro, so therefore the Macbook Pro is expensive, as if that's all that makes a computer. Sigh.
 
callmemike20 said:
I think the OP gave up. Obviously he doesn't know what he is talking about. If macs are such crap, then why are they highly used in the media industry?
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i dont think you want to go down this logic.

If windows are such crap, why 95% of the people use it?
 
clevin said:
AMD is cheaper, generally more energy effective, and there is Athlonx2 64. Performance is that bad neither.
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Sadly this isn't true after the release of Core 2.

callmemike20 said:
I think the OP gave up. Obviously he doesn't know what he is talking about. If macs are such crap, then why are they highly used in the media industry?
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Not everyone lives on this board like we do. ;)

NEiMac said:
Only real grip I have with apple's computers is the graphics cards and that wouldn't be so bad if they would give us decent uncrippled drivers for the ones we got.
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Once again another check box and I'm sure we'd all be willing to cough up more money. Dell charges $100 for the upgrade to the 8400M GS from the GMA X3100. Why can't Apple do that? :rolleyes:
 
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