Psystar Demos 'Open Computer' on Video

[MacRumors]

Despite Gizmodo's claim that Psystar was a hoax, Psystar has posted a video demonstrating 3 "Open Computer" systems running Mac OS X, Ubunu and Windows XP.



In mid-April, news of Psystar's OpenMac clone (since renamed 'Open Computer') exploded across the web. While there have been some questions raised about their legitimacy, they claim to be shipping products at this time.

The technology to run Mac OS X on generic PC hardware is well established, so the actual claims are not difficult to accomplish. Psystar, however, ran into some problems handling orders when they were initially dropped by their credit card processor because their "product was substantially different from what was described in [their] application".

Without verification from any satisfied customers, we still can not endorse the product, as the Mac OS X installation may require some special care to avoid breaking in future updates. Still, for now, it appears they are still trying to be the first Mac OS X clone manufacturer. Apple has not made any comment about Psystar.

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[Eidorian]

Yummy first footage. I can't wait to hear of a shipped product.

[WannaBMW3]

Hmmm.....wonder if Apple legal department is all over this???

[Trip.Tucker]

I give them another 2 weeks before they change their tune due to Apple's legal dept.

[Rhinestorm]

Awesome, finally, a cheap computer with mac os x

[kkat69]

Just FYI per MacFixIt:

Perhaps most disconcerting, however, is a message that MacFixIt reader, Tim Thomason, received from Psystar's support team, which reads:

Of course, the reader asked what options were available in the event of a major system failure requiring Leopard reinstallation, to which Psystar suggested a return shipment to the company.

Let me say that one part again,

"We absolutely do not support customers attempting to install the Leopard operating system on our Open Computer themselves. This is due to a difficult process that we go through to get Leopard to function on our computers. We encourage you to purchase an open computer, and select the option to have Leopard Pre-installed."

So if ANYTHING were to happen users are either SOL or have to pay Psystar MORE money to ship it back, have them re-install (and more than likely go through your files beforehand) then ship it back???????????????

I THINK NOT!

Ohhh and remember what they had/have on their website:

The highly extensible OpenMac is a configuration of PC hardware capable of running unmodified OS X Leopard kernels. If you purchase Leopard with your OpenMac we will not only include the actual Leopard retail package with genuine installation disc, but we also include a Psystar restore disc for your OpenMac and we will preinstall Leopard for free so you can begin to use your computer right out of the box.

So which statement is correct?

How about the one that says:

We're also full of shat!

[Dustman]

I hope that Psystar fails...


...because of a newly announced xMac Mid-tower straight from Apple

[FF_productions]

Ok, that video was ghetto and I couldn't even make a video worse then that.

At least look a tiny tad bit professional.

I think I'll stick with a Apple's line for now.

[Foxglove9]

I would just build the machine myself if I wanted to an "open mac". I still can't wait to see how long this company gets away with selling these machines.

[elppa]

Even our Leopard system, an operating system not famous for it's gaming capabilities, is capable of running this full version of Quake 4, with all of the settings turned to the max.

I rolled my eyes. There's nothing technically wrong or broken with the 3D software architecture in Leopard. OpenGL is used on the PS3. It is just the hardware Apple sells is not best suited for gaming.

Get 'em while there hot.

Good on them for having a go, but it should be “get 'em before we get shut down”.

What a terrible “advertisment” for Final Cut Pro. Apple will probably be more concerned about that first and foremost.

[David G.]

Has anyone received their Open Computer yet?

[bobbleheadbob]

I don't get this. It's priced and marketed as an alternative to a Mac Mini, right? Basically cheaper and more powerful. But it also requires a fair amount of computer sophistication for it to continue operating correctly because it's not supported by , and updates will likely break it.

My perception is that the main market for the lower cost Mac Mini are the less sophisticated users who just want a cheaper Mac that works. Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't that just who this "Open Computer" product is NOT built for?

Anyway, no thanks, I'll stick with brand products!

[Tensakun]

The more I hear--especially no user install of OS--and don't hear--reports by satisfied buyers--the more this really looks like a penny-wise, pound-foolish 'solution.'

Also, their promo video looks and sounds like a high school project.

[NotFound]

my friends we got trouble....

trouble i say...


right here in river city....



(music man)

[funkboy]

Pystar relies on osx86 developer netkas' PC-EFI software, which they apparently just assumed was free for the taking (& selling) without bothering to ask him about it. Obviously he's not too happy about it and neither are the folks using it, as this could obviously bring the wrath of Apple Legal down upon his shoulders, or just simply piss him off enough to stop developing PC_EFI.

As of 15 April, Pystar is violating his licence.

[Telp]

Still not interested...at all...

[speakerwizard]

anyone who buys one of these is mad, a very grey company selling a system that runs a hacked os (efi part anyhow) that is likely to corrupt on an update and donot allow you to re-install leopard yourself or provide any disks, sounds great. apple needs to stop this or the ignorant customers may associate the bad experience with osx.

[Kwill]

Originally Posted by MacRumors

Despite Gizmodo's claim that Psystar was a hoax, Psystar has posted a video demonstrating 3 "Open Computer" systems running Mac OS X, Ubunu and Windows XP.]

Should be "Ubuntu."

[speakerwizard]

Originally Posted by Dustman

I hope that Psystar fails...


...because of a newly announced xMac Mid-tower straight from Apple

oh, and yourll NEVER see this, there is such little demand, dont confuse a couple of geeks on a forum with real demand, the majority of pc users never upgrade anything in a computer, and of the ones that do / have its only the ram, they even prefer an external HD when they have a tower pc, this plus apple moving more and more to integrated 'consumer electronics' i.e. the macbook air being sealed unit means you will never see the fabled x-mac!

[kkat69]

As I was reading where someone had said:

If we look at the only viable way to install a Leopard on a vanilla OS X machine right now, which is using a hacked version of the OS, this decision makes sense. Psystar can't very well distribute hacked versions of Leopard with every computer. The most they can do is give out copies of the real Leopard, which is uninstallable as-is. But that's not what they said before.

So let's assume they're profiting off the osx86 community and selling computers installed with ohh let's say "Leopard 10.5.2 AMD EFI Rev.2
" (I won't post torrents) or JAS SEE2/SEE3 XXXXXXX

How can one tell it's a hacked copy?

[Tallest Skil]

With a capital T and that rhymes with P and that stands for Psystar! (Stands for Psystar!)

But just as I say it takes judgement, brains, and maturity, just like any other game, I say that any boob can take and shove OS X in a PC.

And I call that EULA infringement, the first big step on the road to the depths of illegality, say, a simple OS from some hackers, then apps from BitTorrent.

And the next thing you know you're stuck in some big lawsuit with the RIAA.

Listenin' to some big copyright lawman here talkin' 'bout DRM crap. Not some wholesome copyright, boy, but a law that doesn't let you use your own music!

I'd like to see some stuck-up cloning camp beat out our good man Steve; it'd make your blood boil! Well, I should say! Now friends, let me tell you what I mean. You have one, two, three, four, five, six, lawsuits sent to Psystar. Lawsuits that mark the difference between Apple and the clones

With a capital C and that rhymes with P and that stands for PSYSTAR!

[NotFound]

Originally Posted by Tallest Skil

With a capital T and that rhymes with P and that stands for Psystar! (Stands for Psystar!)

But just as I say it takes judgement, brains, and maturity, just like any other game, I say that any boob can take and shove OS X in a PC.

And I call that EULA infringement, the first big step on the road to the depths of illegality, say, a simple OS from some hackers, then apps from BitTorrent.

And the next thing you know you're stuck in some big lawsuit with the RIAA.

Listenin' to some big copyright lawman here talkin' 'bout DRM crap. Not some wholesome copyright, boy, but a law that doesn't let you use your own music!

I'd like to see some stuck-up cloning camp beat out our good man Steve; it'd make your blood boil! Well, I should say! Now friends, let me tell you what I mean. You have one, two, three, four, five, six, lawsuits sent to Psystar. Lawsuits that mark the difference between Apple and the clones

With a capital C and that rhymes with P and that stands for PSYSTAR!

HAHAHAHAHAHA


YESSSSSS!

WORK IT!

[Rendwich]

Originally Posted by kkat69

So if ANYTHING were to happen users are either SOL or have to pay Psystar MORE money to ship it back, have them re-install (and more than likely go through your files beforehand) then ship it back???????????????

There are numerous options for backing-up and restoring hard-disk images from a CD or DVD. Some are even free.

Make a backup of your OS installation when it arrives. If it breaks, restore from the backup.

A tiny bit of calm reasoning can avoid so much pointless panic.

[Grimace]

....and when your hardware/software has problems...

[kkat69]

Originally Posted by Tallest Skil

With a capital T and that rhymes with P and that stands for Psystar! (Stands for Psystar!)

But just as I say it takes judgement, brains, and maturity, just like any other game, I say that any boob can take and shove OS X in a PC.

And I call that EULA infringement, the first big step on the road to the depths of illegality, say, a simple OS from some hackers, then apps from BitTorrent.

And the next thing you know you're stuck in some big lawsuit with the RIAA.

Listenin' to some big copyright lawman here talkin' 'bout DRM crap. Not some wholesome copyright, boy, but a law that doesn't let you use your own music!

I'd like to see some stuck-up cloning camp beat out our good man Steve; it'd make your blood boil! Well, I should say! Now friends, let me tell you what I mean. You have one, two, three, four, five, six, lawsuits sent to Psystar. Lawsuits that mark the difference between Apple and the clones

With a capital C and that rhymes with P and that stands for PSYSTAR!

Crack is whack.. mmmkayyyyyyyyyy?