Register FAQ/Rules Forum Spy Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Welcome to the Mac Forums forums. Please read the FAQ if you have questions. Register to participate.

 
Go Back   Mac Forums > News and Article Discussion > MacRumors.com News Discussion
TouchArcade.com - iPhone Game Reviews and News

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread  
Old Apr 30, 2008, 11:35 PM   #1
MacRumors
macrumors bot
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Warner Brothers to Offer Online Rentals Alongside DVD Releases



A NYTimes blog reports that Jeff Bewkes, Time Warner’s chief executive, revealed that Warner Brothers will now release "on demand" videos (including iTunes rentals) on the same day as the DVD release. Historically, on-demand releases have tended to lag behind DVD releases by 30-45 days to avoid sales cannibalization.

When Steve Jobs announced the iTunes Rental store at Macworld this year, he acknowledged that the rentals would appear about 30 days after the DVD release. We later noticed, however, that some iTunes movie rentals had started appearing much earlier than the expected 30-day delay. As it turns out, Warner Brothers was experimenting with this approach for the last few months, and found that DVD rentals only fell by 3-5 percent while DVD sales actually increased when on-demand videos were offered earlier.
Quote:
Mr. Bewkes boasted to investors that the shift from DVDs to digital distribution, on the "day and date" of DVD release, will be better for Warner Brothers because it will eliminate some of the costs of manufacturing and distributing discs.
This shift, of course, is good for customers who are given more flexibility in purchasing video content.

Article Link
MacRumors is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Apr 30, 2008, 11:45 PM   #2
LillieDesigns
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
I just can't get into the renting for my iPod thing.
__________________
LillieDesigns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Apr 30, 2008, 11:50 PM   #3
furious
macrumors 6502a
 
furious's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Australia
Hurry up and release Movies and TV shows in Australia.
furious is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Apr 30, 2008, 11:54 PM   #4
Analog Kid
macrumors 68000
 
Analog Kid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Quote:
Mr. Bewkes boasted to investors that the shift from DVDs to digital distribution, on the “day and date” of DVD release, will be better for Warner Brothers because it will eliminate some of the costs of manufacturing and distributing discs.

“Taking a customer and moving that person over from rental-physical over moving them to VOD day-and-date is like a 60 to 70 percent margin instead of a 20 to 30,” Mr. Bewkes said. “So it’s about a three-to-one trade.”
Holy Crap! Someone in a corner office actually looked at the math!

Of course, most of the rest of us hit the Age of Reason in the mid-1600's, but it's nice to know they're making progress...
__________________
"Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand...
Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk hand-in-hand."
--Peart
Analog Kid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Apr 30, 2008, 11:57 PM   #5
ccunning
macrumors member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Quote:
Originally Posted by LillieDesigns View Post
I just can't get into the renting for my iPod thing.
I really think its geared more toward the AppleTV users. I rented a movie and my 30 days were going to be up while I was out of town, so I transfered the movie to my phone, and I have to say, it was a pain in the ass to watch.
ccunning is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 1, 2008, 12:02 AM   #6
JasonK
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Eugene, OR
Quote:
Originally Posted by Analog Kid View Post
Holy Crap! Someone in a corner office actually looked at the math!

Of course, most of the rest of us hit the Age of Reason in the mid-1600's, but it's nice to know they're making progress...
I am happy to hear this. Hopefully other companies will buy in to this "make a better profit" thing and customers will have more options. Ahhh, good ol' capitalism.
JasonK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 1, 2008, 12:11 AM   #7
addicted44
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Yeah, finally someone in the music industry realizes that lower costs is a Good Thing.

Someone must have sat him through econ 101
addicted44 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 1, 2008, 12:17 AM   #8
Doctor Q
macrumors god
 
Doctor Q's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: at the table with countless relatives
This is another stamp of approval for the ("on demand") rental service.
__________________
"You've just been abducted, of course you need crepes!" -- Walter Bishop
Doctor Q is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 1, 2008, 12:43 AM   #9
Gherkin
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Why only rental? Give us the option to buy on iTunes the day of as well. What are they scared of?
__________________
20" iMac | 2.16 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo | 3 GB Ram | 250 GB HD | Radeon X1600 128 MB VRAM | SuperDrive | OS X 10.5
Gherkin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 1, 2008, 12:44 AM   #10
aLoC
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
The main things I buy are books, movies and games. Can basically do most my shopping from the Mac these days.
aLoC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 1, 2008, 12:46 AM   #11
aLoC
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gherkin View Post
Why only rental? Give us the option to buy on iTunes the day of as well. What are they scared of?
Why not release on iTunes the same day the movie comes out in the cinema? Now *that* would be brave!
aLoC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 1, 2008, 01:30 AM   #12
slapppy
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Purchase?

I would like to purchase them rather than rent. Even at 720p. As long as it has 5.1 DD.
slapppy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 1, 2008, 01:38 AM   #13
SirOmega
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Quote:
Originally Posted by aLoC View Post
Why not release on iTunes the same day the movie comes out in the cinema? Now *that* would be brave!
Because that would destroy movie theaters. The only movies people would want to see on the big screen are the summer blockbusters, so whats the theater going to do the rest of the year? Yea, Spiderman or Transformers you want to see in the theater. But most movies, I'll trade the inflated prices, sticky floors and other rude jerks in the theater for the 61"HDTV and surround sound of my house.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Analog Kid View Post
Holy Crap! Someone in a corner office actually looked at the math!
Indeed, this is what they should have realized a long time ago - pressing DVDs in China, shipping them over and distributing them to Blockbuster, Netflix, etc is expensive (and wasteful) when you consider that after the initial burst of demand when it comes out, 90% of the physical copies will be sold for cheap or discarded. This huge spike in demand and subsequent dramatic fall-off is perfectly suited to digital distribution where you can make an infinite number of perfect copies - just make sure you have a big enough pipe to handle initial demand.

Plus, even at 2Mb/s, people can get a DVD-resolution movie down to someone in realtime (maybe give the user 5 minutes to make some popcorn or take a leak, and let the stream buffer).
SirOmega is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 1, 2008, 01:43 AM   #14
twoodcc
macrumors 603
 
twoodcc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Right side of wrong
Send a message via AIM to twoodcc Send a message via MSN to twoodcc
i like it. now just give me hi-def
__________________
tville pump
Smarter than the average bear
twoodcc is online now   Reply With Quote
Old May 1, 2008, 01:55 AM   #15
aLoC
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Quote:
Originally Posted by SirOmega View Post
Because that would destroy movie theaters.
I think that's an assumption that's yet to be tested. Before today they were assuming digital downloads would kill DVD sales, but instead are finding it increased them.
aLoC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 1, 2008, 02:37 AM   #16
Michael CM1
macrumors 68040
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
I have rented 5 movies from iTunes this year. That's probably 5 more than the DVDs I have rented from my local store. I hate it because they're a little operation, but I just don't like renting physical DVDs much. If I rent, I'm just wanting to watch the movie. When I buy, I usually want to watch it a million times and get into the special features. This is why rentals via download will make these people rich if they ever figure out how people under the age of 50 think!

By the way, I have watched most of my rentals on my computer's 20" screen. I actually took "Escape from Alcatraz" with me to a relative's house on my iPhone. Watched the whole movie on it. No, not the best way to watch something, but it's not the worst either.
__________________
MacBook Pro 2.16GHz, 2GB RAM, 320GB HDD
iPhone 3G S 32GB
Michael CM1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 1, 2008, 03:54 AM   #17
technocoy
macrumors 6502a
 
technocoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Raleigh, NC
engadget is reporting that Apple is set to announce same day as DVD releases of all it's movies on the iTunes Store. Today

This could be very interesting indeed.
__________________
4GB 1G nano, 16GB iPhone
2.4 17" MBP
2.66 MacPro, 3TB, 5Gigs of RAM, 8800GT
2.9 Quad FakePro, 2TB, 8Gigs, 2 9800s, BR/HD DVD
technocoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 1, 2008, 05:08 AM   #18
The Grood
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Does anyone have a clue when movie purchases and rentals will reach the UK store? Seems like we've been waiting forever...

Any Apple people out there please note: buying an ATV makes no sense here until this happens.
The Grood is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 1, 2008, 05:14 AM   #19
brucebrendon
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: UK
Uk...?

my friend and i (in UK) brought some other friends an TV as we're always round their place using all their stuff (an mainly coz they don't like ).

pretty much zero content in UK, poop. not even 1 film! just as well we got them the one with the bigger HD then, err...

heck even some cheap UK filmhouses or something.

for now looks like we're gonna have to enrole in pirate and hack skool, Zzz... else it's a somewhat excessive youtube and podcast player.

oh and while i'm grumbling, an 'on-the-go' playlist'd be nice.
brucebrendon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 1, 2008, 06:06 AM   #20
Mark-Mac-Attack
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: England
Apple TV has **** all use in the UK, can't believe they push it to show ****ing tv shows! christ, tv shows are on tv, and they're free for gods sake,

such a missed opportunity ffs!


__________________
Penryn MBP (2.4/4/500/Snow Leopard) + 30" ACD - 8GB iPhone - 80GB Classic - Time Capsule - Airport Express - Apple TV - Mobile Me
Mark-Mac-Attack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 1, 2008, 07:33 AM   #21
Erwin-Br
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: The Netherlands
Apple TV will only be interesting to me when it's capable of what my current Windows Media Center can do: Watch and record live TV.

--Erwin
__________________
Mac Pro - 2x 2.8GHz Quad Core Xeon, 16GB, 8800GT
Mac Mini - 1.83GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 1GB
iPod Touch - Gen 2, 16 GB
Erwin-Br is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 1, 2008, 08:35 AM   #22
kornyboy
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Knoxville, TN (USA)
Wirelessly posted (iPhone: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/4A102 Safari/419.3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by technocoy
engadget is reporting that Apple is set to announce same day as DVD releases of all it's movies on the iTunes Store. Today

This could be very interesting indeed.
That would be really good. I very much like to rent movies on the AppleTV that I only plan to watch once but I have always wanted the digital renting to appear on the day of the DVD release. I hope what you heard is true.
__________________
Stuff
kornyboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 1, 2008, 08:50 AM   #23
Gasu E.
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Quote:
Originally Posted by aLoC View Post
I think that's an assumption that's yet to be tested. Before today they were assuming digital downloads would kill DVD sales, but instead are finding it increased them.
Not 100% sure why you think that. If you think that is what the article says, who are not reading it quite right. What the article says is that digital download RENTALS increase DVD sales. That's because physical rentals were already replacing DVD sales. Download rentals are now replacing physical rentals; and download sales are less damaging to physical DVD sales than physical rentals were. At least, that is one of the theories offered. In any case, the second sentence quoted above is both wrong and irrelevant when examined carefully.
Gasu E. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 1, 2008, 08:51 AM   #24
bigmc6000
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: May 2006
AI says Apple has formally announced it but doesn't give a link to the official release - any idea where this might be? I checked the Apple Hot news and there's nothing there - at least not yet...

This might actually get me to buy an tv...
bigmc6000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 1, 2008, 08:56 AM   #25
TheSpecialist
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: The Netherlands, Europe
Send a message via MSN to TheSpecialist
Give us the option to buy damnit!

On the other side, this is good news though, but could be better!
TheSpecialist is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply

Mac Forums > News and Article Discussion > MacRumors.com News Discussion

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:46 PM.

Mac News | Mac Rumors | iPhone Game Reviews | iPhone Apps

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.10
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2002-2009, MacRumors.com, LLC