Bluetooth 1.4.1 for Mac OS X

MacRumors · Nov 17, 2003, 04:46 PM

In your Mac OS X Software Update:

Quote:

Bluetooth 1.4.1 for Mac OS X provides enhanced stability for Bluetooth connections. This release also improves performance with human interface devices (HID) including enhancements to wake from sleep.

QFace · Nov 17, 2003, 04:48 PM

updates always appreciated

bobbyp80521 · Nov 17, 2003, 04:50 PM

neat

alset · Nov 17, 2003, 04:51 PM

This is a pretty heavy string of updates. My day just keeps getting better. Add to that a SCSI card in my server has come back from the dead and brought with it a drive that I couldn't fix all weekend.... Wooha!

Dan

ITR 81 · Nov 17, 2003, 04:52 PM

Any update is good. I still need to get a new phone but I'm holding out for new yrs phones coming out.

ZenPirate · Nov 17, 2003, 05:10 PM

This is odd. I get this when trying to install via software update:
Cannot verify and Expand

Quote:

Make sure you have permission to write to /tmp/501/TemporaryItems/com.apple.SoftwareUpdate, then try again.

running repair permissions changes nothing.

mustang_dvs · Nov 17, 2003, 05:44 PM

1.4.1 is available for OS 10.3.1

1.3.3 is available for OS 10.2.8

Bluetooth 1.3.3 for Mac OS X provides enhanced stability for Bluetooth connections. This release also improves performance with human interface devices (HID) including enhancements to wake from sleep.

johnnyjibbs · Nov 17, 2003, 06:16 PM

Yep, I got the alert for Bluetooth 1.3.3. Tsk.

I didn't intall it because there wasn't a tick by it. I guessed my PowerBook already had it, but now I think about it that's just silly. Guess I should install it now.

Starting to want Panther now... I wish they'd hurry up with delivering my Up-to-date application...

beelesbob · Nov 17, 2003, 06:59 PM

If you're still running 10.2.8 then I highly recommend downloading Bluetooth 1.3.3. There is a major security hole in previous versions with an exploit as follows:
[list=1][*]Plug in a bluetooth dongle.[*]Reboot[*]At the bluetooth mouse configuration panel select "Bluetooth help" from the help menu.[*]When Help Viewer loads click "iPod help".[*]Select the "iPod manual" link.[*]When Safari loads enter an ftp URL e.g. ftp://ftp.apple.com[*]You will now get a finder with root privilages without having to enter any passwords.[/list=1]

Bob

Awimoway · Nov 17, 2003, 07:52 PM

"Restart will be required."

?!? I though restarts for installations would no longer be required in Panther. I thought that was one of its new features. That's what I get for thinking.

smada · Nov 17, 2003, 08:04 PM

I'd never heard of that as being a panther feature, but it would be nice. I have heard that simply logging out and then back in accomplishes the same thing as restarting.

beelesbob · Nov 17, 2003, 08:07 PM

The reason restart is required is to restart all the relevant daemons - a log out/log in will not restart them... However it would easily be possible for apple to make non-restart installers, all it would need is to have an install script that sends a sig-HUP to the relevant services.

Bob

toughboy · Nov 17, 2003, 08:18 PM

well...

as a person who is trying to build up a network via bluetooth, I hope this update will help me..

Actually I dont know even if it is possible or not.. my PB doesnt even seem to care about the "bluetooth network" icon on my PC's taskbar!

Counterfit · Nov 17, 2003, 08:39 PM

Networking via Bluetooth? Umm, why? WiFi has greater speed and range, and is designed for that purpose, unlike Bluetooth which was designed for peripherals...

TreeTruckie · Nov 17, 2003, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by toughboy
well...

as a person who is trying to build up a network via bluetooth, I hope this update will help me..

Actually I dont know even if it is possible or not.. my PB doesnt even seem to care about the "bluetooth network" icon on my PC's taskbar!

PC? Taskbar? Are you even typing in English?

http://forums.macrumors.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

Tommy Wasabi · Nov 17, 2003, 09:27 PM

Finally,

I have a 1.25Ghz AuBook with both bluetooth keyboard and mouse. The mouse will finally wake the damn thing from sleep!

Cool Beans.

Icekey · Nov 17, 2003, 10:04 PM

I still can't tick the wake computer from bluetooth devices thing after the update. Anyone know why?

Awimoway · Nov 17, 2003, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Icekey
I still can't tick the wake computer from bluetooth devices thing after the update. Anyone know why?

Huh? Care to rephrase?

Panther · Nov 17, 2003, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Icekey
I still can't tick the wake computer from bluetooth devices thing after the update. Anyone know why?

I get the same thing, but I always assumed it was because I had a Bluetooth USB "dongle" plugged into my keyboard, not one of the built-in modules like the newer systems have...

Anyone with built-in Bluetooth care to comment?

On the subject of Bluetooth...

I got an Axim X3i (PocketPC) over the weekend, and a Socket SDIO Bluetooth adaptor... I then got a program called PocketMac that lets my sync PocketPC Contacts <-> Address Book, Calendar <-> iCal etc.

I guess the Newton II rumors (for the past year) finally wore me down enough

mustang_dvs · Nov 17, 2003, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tommy Wasabi
...I have a 1.25Ghz AuBook...

You have a gold laptop!?! WOW!

http://www.webelements.com/webelemen...xt/Au/key.html

Icekey · Nov 17, 2003, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Awimoway
Huh? Care to rephrase?

Do you see the bit where I can't tick that says "Allow Bluetooth Devices to wake this computer". Well, supposedly with this update it's supposed to allow you to tick that option with bluetooth devices. I've got a wireless keyboard and mouse and it's not letting me to do it still as you can see from the photo

http://icekey.customer.netspace.net..../bluetooth.jpg

rlw · Nov 18, 2003, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Panther
I get the same thing, but I always assumed it was because I had a Bluetooth USB "dongle" plugged into my keyboard, not one of the built-in modules like the newer systems have...

Anyone with built-in Bluetooth care to comment?

I have built in bluetooth and my bluetooth preference panel lets me check "Allow Bluetooth devices to wake this computer".

I hope that what Apples means by "...including enhancements to wake from sleep" is that my Bluetooth mouse will stop creating a kernel panic when it wakes my computer from sleep (happens 1 out of every 20 times or so).

Spyky · Nov 18, 2003, 12:21 AM

The "Wake from Sleep" option is also disabled for me as the above image shows.

Any idea why? I think it may be because it is a notebook, so it doesn't power much of anything (mostly just memory) when in sleep. A desktop may maintain power to the bluetooth interface, etc.

That, or maybe the bluetooth interface just doesn't support this on the PB. It'd be nice if Apple had a note somewhere about this, but I looked on their pages and didn't see anything to that effect.

rlw: What machine are you using?

-Spyky

rlw · Nov 18, 2003, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Spyky
The "Wake from Sleep" option is also disabled for me as the above image shows.

Any idea why? I think it may be because it is a notebook, so it doesn't power much of anything (mostly just memory) when in sleep.

rlw: What machine are you using?

-Spyky

I am using a Apple bluetooth mouse with a new PB 12" running 10.2.8, so should it work on notebooks.

Icekey · Nov 18, 2003, 01:11 AM

What sort of settings have you done to get it working? Did you just update it through the software update, reboot, and were you able to tick from there???

Nov 17, 2003, 04:48 PM	#2
QFace macrumors member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Berkeley	improved stability always good updates always appreciated

Nov 17, 2003, 04:50 PM	#3
bobbyp80521 macrumors newbie Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: co	neat neat

Nov 17, 2003, 04:51 PM	#4
alset macrumors 65816 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: East Bay, CA	This is a pretty heavy string of updates. My day just keeps getting better. Add to that a SCSI card in my server has come back from the dead and brought with it a drive that I couldn't fix all weekend.... Wooha! Dan __________________ alsetmusic.com standing on the shoulders of giants....

Nov 17, 2003, 04:52 PM	#5
ITR 81 macrumors 65816 Join Date: Oct 2003	Thanks for the update Any update is good. I still need to get a new phone but I'm holding out for new yrs phones coming out.

Nov 17, 2003, 06:16 PM	#8
johnnyjibbs macrumors 68030 Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: London, UK	Yep, I got the alert for Bluetooth 1.3.3. Tsk. I didn't intall it because there wasn't a tick by it. I guessed my PowerBook already had it, but now I think about it that's just silly. Guess I should install it now. Starting to want Panther now... I wish they'd hurry up with delivering my Up-to-date application... __________________ johngriffithsapps.com - Get It Done! \| Grocery Checkout 15" MBP, iPhone 3G, 12" PB, iPod 4G, iPod shuffle

Nov 17, 2003, 05:44 PM	#7
mustang_dvs macrumors 6502a Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Durham, NC	1.4.1 is available for OS 10.3.1 1.3.3 is available for OS 10.2.8 Bluetooth 1.3.3 for Mac OS X provides enhanced stability for Bluetooth connections. This release also improves performance with human interface devices (HID) including enhancements to wake from sleep.

Nov 17, 2003, 06:59 PM	#9
beelesbob macrumors newbie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: York, UK	1.3.3 Fixes major security hole If you're still running 10.2.8 then I highly recommend downloading Bluetooth 1.3.3. There is a major security hole in previous versions with an exploit as follows: [list=1][]Plug in a bluetooth dongle.[]Reboot[]At the bluetooth mouse configuration panel select "Bluetooth help" from the help menu.[]When Help Viewer loads click "iPod help".[]Select the "iPod manual" link.[]When Safari loads enter an ftp URL e.g. ftp://ftp.apple.com[*]You will now get a finder with root privilages without having to enter any passwords.[/list=1] Bob

Nov 17, 2003, 07:52 PM	#10
Awimoway macrumors 65816 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: at the edge	"Restart will be required." ?!? I though restarts for installations would no longer be required in Panther. I thought that was one of its new features. That's what I get for thinking.

Nov 17, 2003, 08:04 PM	#11
smada macrumors member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Portland, OR	I'd never heard of that as being a panther feature, but it would be nice. I have heard that simply logging out and then back in accomplishes the same thing as restarting. __________________ adamscarroll.com

Nov 17, 2003, 08:07 PM	#12
beelesbob macrumors newbie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: York, UK	The reason restart is required is to restart all the relevant daemons - a log out/log in will not restart them... However it would easily be possible for apple to make non-restart installers, all it would need is to have an install script that sends a sig-HUP to the relevant services. Bob

Nov 17, 2003, 08:18 PM	#13
toughboy macrumors 6502a Join Date: May 2003 Location: Izmir, Turkey	well... as a person who is trying to build up a network via bluetooth, I hope this update will help me.. Actually I dont know even if it is possible or not.. my PB doesnt even seem to care about the "bluetooth network" icon on my PC's taskbar! __________________ 12" PB G4 Rev A ~ "Ice" (what an irony!) 15.2" PB G4 ~ "DevIce" 17" MBP 2.5GHz/4GB/ Hi-Res LED Screen FTW! ~ "BigMac"

Nov 17, 2003, 08:39 PM	#14
Counterfit macrumors 601 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: sitting on your shoulder	Networking via Bluetooth? Umm, why? WiFi has greater speed and range, and is designed for that purpose, unlike Bluetooth which was designed for peripherals...

Nov 17, 2003, 09:27 PM	#16
Tommy Wasabi macrumors member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chicago	Fixes Sleep issue Finally, I have a 1.25Ghz AuBook with both bluetooth keyboard and mouse. The mouse will finally wake the damn thing from sleep! Cool Beans. __________________ TW

Nov 17, 2003, 10:04 PM	#17
Icekey macrumors member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia	I still can't tick the wake computer from bluetooth devices thing after the update. Anyone know why? __________________ 15" powerbook.. SWEEET

Nov 18, 2003, 12:21 AM	#23
Spyky macrumors newbie Join Date: Nov 2003	Internal Bluetooth on AluBook The "Wake from Sleep" option is also disabled for me as the above image shows. Any idea why? I think it may be because it is a notebook, so it doesn't power much of anything (mostly just memory) when in sleep. A desktop may maintain power to the bluetooth interface, etc. That, or maybe the bluetooth interface just doesn't support this on the PB. It'd be nice if Apple had a note somewhere about this, but I looked on their pages and didn't see anything to that effect. rlw: What machine are you using? -Spyky

Nov 18, 2003, 01:11 AM	#25
Icekey macrumors member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia	What sort of settings have you done to get it working? Did you just update it through the software update, reboot, and were you able to tick from there??? __________________ 15" powerbook.. SWEEET

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