Safari for Windows Marketshare Triples

[MacRumors]

Net Applications reports that the latest version of Safari has seen a significant uptick in usage amongst Windows users.

Safari on Windows has never gained much marketshare, previously peaking at 0.07% of users. That number increased to as high as 0.21% of users after the release of Safari 3.1. Net Applications attributes the rise in usage to Apple's distribution of Safari through their Software Update.

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[jlanuez]

Is Safari or Firefox faster to load itself and load web pages?

[valdore]

I'm not even very impressed with Safari on my Macs.

[clevin]

0.21%..... since safari as a whole dropped 0.31%, should I take it as it lost 0.44% share on OSX? Consider OSX's market share in NA's data base of 7%, this translate into a 5% loss for safari on OSX. ......

pic from Ars


LOL, read too much into nothing.

NA shows everybody dropped, except IE, who gained ~1%, and mostly from IE6!!! this is interesting. How much can I trust it now?

PS. NA also shows OSX lost 0.5% to 7%, while windows gain 0.4%. OSX reaches TOP?

[jive turkey]

Originally Posted by jlanuez

Is Safari or Firefox faster to load itself and load web pages?

IMO, Safari is faster than Firefox 2, but the Firefox 3 beta is faster than Safari.

[TheSpecialist]

Originally Posted by jive turkey

IMO, Safari is faster than Firefox 2, but the Firefox 3 beta is faster than Safari.

I disagree. I think Safari is faster in loading and definitely startup time. I also have Firefox 3 on my PC and Safari is definitely faster here.

[clevin]

Originally Posted by TheSpecialist

I disagree. I think Safari is faster in loading and definitely startup time. I also have Firefox 3 on my PC and Safari is definitely faster here.

Its not likely for a forcely ported app to be faster than native ones on windows, well, can't rule out exceptions tho, like your situation

[batchtaster]

Originally Posted by clevin

Its not likely for a forcely ported app to be faster than native ones on windows, well, can't rule out exceptions tho, like your situation

Which one are you describing as "forcely ported"? Neither one is overtly "native".

[clevin]

Originally Posted by batchtaster

Which one are you describing as "forcely ported"? Neither one appears to be overtly "native".

oh, the one that packed with its own font AA and animation core. Maybe firefox isn't as native as IE (if you just think javascript drawing UI is so un-native...), but it sure is MUCH more native than safari on windows. You really can't find another more un-native browser than safari on windows.

[Yvan256]

Triple the marketshare... sure.

http://news.yahoo.com/comics/080419/...zZcPgtMaoA_b4F

[jons]

I don't know that more marketshare attributed to a semi-forced download is a good thing...

[twoodcc]

well i do have safari on windows (that's running on a macbook). but i do use IE sometimes as well

[tcuzela]

I don't agree with Apple "updating" software that isn't installed. That being said though, people still have to double-click that little Safari icon to use it--and then keep using it for trends to change.

I still love my Firefox, it's all I use on all my boxes--Windows, Mac and Linux. The only reason I use Firefox and nothing else is my sole extension, AdBlock Plus. I really don't care about the browser, it's the same Internet, but those ads kill me!

[Nermal]

Originally Posted by tcuzela

I don't agree with Apple "updating" software that isn't installed.

Apple has changed Software Update and it is now listed as a new application, rather than an update.

[Phil A.]

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I love safari on my mac, but on windows it's horrible: it looks ugly and feels clunky.

[reverie]

0.21 % is not great, but it's a start. If we go by that arstechnica graph that shows Safari 3/Mac adoption after it was released in October it could take 2 more months until Apple's "Safari for Windows pushing scheme" comes to full effect. Could we see 0.5 % market share in the June statistics?

[swagi]

Yeah...it reminds me of a triple of nothing is still nothing.

And considering the browser situation on Windows: I really don't like any browser currently. Safari is so poorly coded, that I have to close it down every hour or so. (btw same applies to OS X - when will Apple get rid of that bloody memory leak?).

Firefox behaves so goddamn stupid on AutoFill. It just plainly sucks, that you have to choose your option with the TAB-key instead of the Return-key. And Firefox's constant updating scheme is also annoying. Heck - check my bloody extensions one time and be done with it. If the extension isn't supported anymore, stop checking.

Basically (preparing to run like hell) the new IE kind of feels like the best experience in Windows. At least for me...and yes, I feel ashamed.

Maybe I should go back to Opera. Last time I used it was in the late 90s, and in my perception the old Opera still tops all todays browsers.

[LeviG]

Originally Posted by swagi

Basically (preparing to run like hell) the new IE kind of feels like the best experience in Windows. At least for me...and yes, I feel ashamed.

It isn't too bad once you add in an ad blocker such as ie7 pro (it's free) although I still feel that firefox is superior for overall speed, its just that until ff3 goes final I don't want to install it (plus its got a stupid address bar without a plugin)

[clevin]

Originally Posted by swagi

Firefox behaves so goddamn stupid on AutoFill. It just plainly sucks, that you have to choose your option with the TAB-key instead of the Return-key.

did you open autocomplete through
about:config
and double click to toggle the value of browser.urlbar.autoFill to true?

[aarond12]

It hasn't been until Safari 3.1 that I could semi-reliably use the browser at work. We have a Microsoft ActiveDirectory-authenticated proxy server which consistently crashed previous Safari versions.

Now it only occasionally crashes -- a bit more than IE and Firefox crashes on the same computer.

I hate Windows.

[clevin]

Originally Posted by aarond12

I hate Windows.

I suspect this is one of the reasons apple put out safari for windows

Make some crappy apps and let users blame windows..... but I guess most ppl blame apple for it....

[k2spitfire88]

Originally Posted by Phil A.

Wirelessly posted (iPhone 16GB: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/4A102 Safari/419.3)

I love safari on my mac, but on windows it's horrible: it looks ugly and feels clunky.

Really? I love it on my windows machine! Maybe it's because I am anxiously awaiting a Mac, and this feels closer than the other crap on my Toshiba!

Originally Posted by aarond12

It hasn't been until Safari 3.1 that I could semi-reliably use the browser at work. We have a Microsoft ActiveDirectory-authenticated proxy server which consistently crashed previous Safari versions.

Now it only occasionally crashes -- a bit more than IE and Firefox crashes on the same computer.

I hate Windows.

I agree with all of that. It used to crash all the time, in Safari 2.whatever, and 3.0. But now, on my windows machine, it is consistently stable, and runs great (i use it as my primary browser ), and the only issue i have is the memory leak. Otherwise I love it!

[clevin]

Originally Posted by k2spitfire88

Really? I love it on my windows machine! Maybe it's because I am anxiously awaiting a Mac, and this feels closer than the other crap on my Toshiba!

I agree with all of that. It used to crash all the time, in Safari 2.whatever, and 3.0. But now, on my windows machine, it is consistently stable, and runs great (i use it as my primary browser ), and the only issue i have is the memory leak. Otherwise I love it!

I C, if you can tolerate the shortcomes of safari for windows, trust me, you will love it when you get your mac.

PS, when you gonna get it?

[k2spitfire88]

Originally Posted by clevin

I C, if you can tolerate the shortcomes of safari for windows, trust me, you will love it when you get your mac.

PS, when you gonna get it?

This summer, when i get the money, and then after the revision. Blackbook, or whatever the equivalent is. I have used it on a few dual G5 powermac's, running Tiger at school, and I loved it!

[elppa]

Originally Posted by jlanuez

Is Safari or Firefox faster to load itself and load web pages?

If you are comparing release versions, Safari is at 3 and Firefox is at 2.

In that case Safari is faster, by quite a distance.

Compare Firefox 3 and Safari 3 and it gets closer.

But a lot of people still use Firefox 2 for the plugins / extensions which aren't yet compatible with Firefox 3.

Safari 3 is very stable in Vista. The fact it actually renders text which looks better than IE and Firefox on my screen is not a shortcoming (More noticable with larger font sizes, these look jagged in the other two).