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Old May 6, 2008, 12:06 PM   #1
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Old May 6, 2008, 12:15 PM   #2
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1,000,000 Zunes sold since 2006....... This ought to bring NBC lots of business.
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Old May 6, 2008, 12:38 PM   #3
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So does this mean that NBC gets a share of the Zune's hardware sales? Since that seemed to be their big complaint with Apple.

Man they really showed Apple with this deal. They complained that they "only" made 15 million off the iTunes deal, wonder how long it will take them to make that with Microsoft?

What a joke.
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Old May 6, 2008, 12:54 PM   #4
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I don't think NBC having given up entirely on iTunes.

Last I heard they were renegotiating.
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Old May 6, 2008, 12:54 PM   #5
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I just bought a ticket to travel to London on the Titanic.

I can't wait to watch NBC on Zune during my trip.

Why can't NBC just "man up" and admit they made a mistake?
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My two cents:

NBC not only wanted a cut of hardware but I think they expected immediate miracle sales status from iTunes, meaning they expected their sales numbers to equal and surpass the number of illicit downloads of their content within the first couple months.

I don't know why but it seems to me that a lot of companies that were incredibly resistant to digital distribution when it first started booming were expecting way too much from it when they came late and under dressed for the party.

Of course now NBC has signed up with Microsoft, probably receiving a portion of the players' pricepoints. Of course look at the market share for video-capable media players and the total video content sales and I'd wager (since I have no real numbers to back this up) the iTunes + iPod combo is leaps and bounds ahead. Just look at how many players are being sold and then look at the amount of content being sold. I'd wager the numbers are rather disproportionate.

It won't be long until NBC is kicking themselves in the giblets over this bone-headed move, methinks.
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Old May 6, 2008, 01:05 PM   #7
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I don't think NBC having given up entirely on iTunes.

Last I heard they were renegotiating.
A few of their shows have just showed up on the UK iTunes Store.
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I just bought a ticket to travel to London on the Titanic.

I can't wait to watch NBC on Zune during my trip.

Why can't NBC just "man up" and admit they made a mistake?
ZINNNNNNNGGGGGG! Nice, seriously, I enjoyed that.

I agree completely. I want The Office back on iTunes immediately. This whole thing is stupid. Maybe when NBC gets into high school they will grow up and apologize for being childish.
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Old May 6, 2008, 01:52 PM   #9
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A few of their shows have just showed up on the UK iTunes Store.
I don't know a whole lot about the situation with production companies and broadcasting companies but this is how I understand it:

You can still find some shows that air on NBC on iTunes however they are not licensed to NBC for distribution, they are ABC, CBS, etc. Alternately, there are a few shows on other stations such as ABC, CBS, etc. that you will not find on iTunes because they are NBC produced shows. Just because a show airs on NBC doesn't mean you won't find it on iTunes, it matters who has the distribution authority over it.

Again, I'm not entirely positive on this but I think it's accurate. If you have a correction please feel free to explain it better, or more accurately.
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1,000,000 Zunes sold since 2006....... This ought to bring NBC lots of business.
+ 15,000,000 Xbox 360's and other Media Center Extenders.
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+ 15,000,000 Xbox 360's and other Media Center Extenders.
Too bad there are already over 60 million ipods out there. That's besides the fact that iPods are being built into cellphones these days, namely the iPhone. Where is Microsofts awesome media phone?
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Old May 6, 2008, 02:16 PM   #12
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It's all about competition. If there weren't any then the iPod wouldn't have any new features.
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Old May 6, 2008, 02:20 PM   #13
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Hmm... 15m Xbox's...

Well... Looking on-line...

Apple passed the 100,000,000 mark in sold iPods recently... And it's still growing the market by about 5% according to their recent SEC filing.
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haha, wow. well, i never like NBC all that much anyways, now i really don't like them
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Too bad there are already over 60 million ipods out there. That's besides the fact that iPods are being built into cellphones these days, namely the iPhone. Where is Microsofts awesome media phone?
Not to mention the fact that a lot of people still buy TV programmes and films to *gasp* watch on their computers and not to watch on their iPods (old fashioned eh? ). iTunes has by far and away the biggest installed user base of any media player.
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So, let me get this straight.

NBC wanted to charge more on iTunes and left since Apple wanted to charge only $1.99 per episode.

So, instead, they're on Zune, where they're charging $1.99 per episode....

That's smart....
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Old May 6, 2008, 04:26 PM   #17
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A few of their shows have just showed up on the UK iTunes Store.
I reckon they are making up for lost time. We get all the best stuff on iTunes now. The US store doesn't even have Shaun the Sheep.
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Old May 6, 2008, 04:34 PM   #18
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Well damnit I just miss NBC! I don't care if they're stupid....I like stupid things.
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Old May 6, 2008, 04:36 PM   #19
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Ha, look who's crawling back, and it wasn't Apple as NBC expected
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My post was deleted! Lame! 1984... Possibly because I mentioned, uh, green...citrus fruit...cable. Rhymes with ime ire. I guess we can't talk about these issues in the open.

My point was that some of the people who were willing to pay for an episode of an NBC show on iTunes may resort to downloading a pirated version...elsewhere. My guess is that this has hindered NBC's profits over the last few months more than it has helped them.
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My post was deleted! Lame! 1984... Possibly because I mentioned, uh, green...citrus fruit...cable. Rhymes with ime ire. I guess we can't talk about these issues in the open.

My point was that some of the people who were willing to pay for an episode of an NBC show on iTunes may resort to downloading a pirated version...elsewhere. My guess is that this has hindered NBC's profits over the last few months more than it has helped them.
Agreed. NBC only hurts itself by taking away the legal options. Then again, it's still legal to record the show off the TV, so one would have to question why it's illegal to download it. Just to prove my point, there used to be a product called VCR Plus, and you could just plug in a Program code and the VCR Plus would know what channel and what time to start recording. Where could you get these codes??? Why, from the TV guide itself, of course.
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+ 15,000,000 Xbox 360's and other Media Center Extenders.
What are the current figures on media sales to XBox / MCE users? I'm pretty sure that Microsoft and the other retailers that use it (?) aren't in the top few music retailers?

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...ler-in-us.html

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Rhapsody isn't an XBox/MCE product, is it? Amazon includes Unbox sales, but I presume that is still a small fraction of their business?

Are there any comparable figures on how much video is sold through the XBox/MCE channel?
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Too bad there are already over 60 million ipods out there. That's besides the fact that iPods are being built into cellphones these days, namely the iPhone. Where is Microsofts awesome media phone?
Not to mention the millions of installations of iTunes and the (who knows how many) TVs.
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Not to mention the fact that a lot of people still buy TV programmes and films to *gasp* watch on their computers and not to watch on their iPods (old fashioned eh? ). iTunes has by far and away the biggest installed user base of any media player.
Windows Media Player has the largest installed base by far and away.
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