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Old Nov 19, 2003, 05:20 PM   #1
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90nm PowerMac G5s in March 2004?

Appleinsider posted a small update today reporting that second generation PowerMac G5s would make an appearance by March 2004. The new machines are reported to have advanced features including 533 DDR II RAM support and up to 1.5GHz bus as well as the incorporation of 90nm G5s and "Power Tune" technology.

As previously reported, IBM will be presenting 90nm PowerPC 970 technology at the ISSCC in Feb 2004. First reference to "PowerTune" was seen in the advance program (PDF) where it is briefly described under "PowerTune: Advanced Frequency and Power Scaling on 64b PowerPC Microprocessor" (Page 59)

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PowerTune is a power-management technique for a multi-gigahertz superscalar 64b PowerPC processor in a 90nm technology. This paper discusses the challenges and implementation of a dynamically controlled clock frequency with noise suppression as well as a synchronization circuit for a multi-processor system.
It's not completely clear how these new machines would fit with Appleinsider's previous claim that PowerMacs would see revisions in January 2004.

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Old Nov 19, 2003, 05:22 PM   #2
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Soooo anybody wanna buy my Dual 2.0GHz G5? =D
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Old Nov 19, 2003, 05:25 PM   #3
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As Steve said - very promising roadmap!
This PowerTune feature sounds like one of Apple´s request to be able to cram the G5 in a PowerBook...
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Old Nov 19, 2003, 05:26 PM   #4
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announce in january, ship in march......

no, apple would never do that
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Old Nov 19, 2003, 05:26 PM   #5
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1.5Ghz Bus

1.5Ghz Bus... Would it be safe to say these are going to be 3Ghz Chips then?
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Old Nov 19, 2003, 05:28 PM   #6
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Stating the obvious:

1.5GHz bus == 3.0GHz processors at the high end.
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Old Nov 19, 2003, 05:28 PM   #7
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um cool!
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Old Nov 19, 2003, 05:30 PM   #8
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Soooo anybody wanna buy my Dual 2.0GHz G5? =D
LOL yeah me 2

DDR 2,1.5Ghz OMG!!!!!!!!!
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Old Nov 19, 2003, 05:30 PM   #9
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3 gog hz sooer?

or still summer wait?
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Old Nov 19, 2003, 05:31 PM   #10
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Actually, the article just says the system controller will suppoprt up to 1.5GHz. Which would seem to put the post-3.0GHz machines will need a revamped controller ...
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Old Nov 19, 2003, 05:31 PM   #11
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typing to damn fast...

3 gig in march?

or summer still...
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Old Nov 19, 2003, 05:33 PM   #12
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Re: 3 gog hz sooer?

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or still summer wait?
If the NEXT revision brings the G5 to 3 GHz in March, IBM would be faster designing than they can produce the CPUs
And Steve would have toned down his bragging "within 12 months" for nothing.
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Old Nov 19, 2003, 05:35 PM   #13
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This is VERY promising, and VERY realistic.

I am so overjoyed at the thought that Intel is slowing down, and Apple is speeding up.

The G5 truly marks a turning point in the future of Apple Hardware. People will be speaking of this for years to come.
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Old Nov 19, 2003, 05:38 PM   #14
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Wow, 1.5 Ghz bus. and I think 2:1 is the largest bus multiplier. i don't think there is a 1.5:1 multiplier. I know there are 3:1, 4:1 and so one. But 1.5 would definetly imply 3 Ghz.

Hmmmmm......
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Old Nov 19, 2003, 05:39 PM   #15
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Re: typing to damn fast...

To recap:

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DrGruv: 3 gog hz sooer? or still summer wait?
became

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DrGruv: 3 gig in march? or summer still?
I think that fast typing does not explain this. I suspect, rather, that DrGruv is completely insane
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Old Nov 19, 2003, 05:40 PM   #16
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Old Nov 19, 2003, 05:41 PM   #17
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Cool insane? well, partially perhaps..

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Old Nov 19, 2003, 05:44 PM   #18
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Re: Re: typing to damn fast...

Originally posted by Wombatronic
I think that fast typing does not explain this. I suspect, rather, that DrGruv is completely insane

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Old Nov 19, 2003, 05:49 PM   #19
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Good News indeed

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Originally posted by areyouwishing
This is VERY promising, and VERY realistic.

I am so overjoyed at the thought that Intel is slowing down, and Apple is speeding up.

The G5 truly marks a turning point in the future of Apple Hardware. People will be speaking of this for years to come.
Wouldn't it be neat if all of a sudden Apple had faster clocked chipsets than Intel. My my that would be a nice turning of tables.
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Old Nov 19, 2003, 05:49 PM   #20
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as much as i doubt it... i REEEEEAALLY hope its true

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Old Nov 19, 2003, 05:50 PM   #21
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My Dual 2

Yeah, I got a dual 2, and even though I always want the biggest and newest - Man, my dual 2 is SWEET, and I am very content with it and expect to be content with it for years to come...

... by no means do I need the newest now that I have my Dual 2. Great machine.
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Old Nov 19, 2003, 05:58 PM   #22
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for those that bought 2x2GHz machines, don't worry, I will buy them off you. I'm hoping to get 1100 of them :P

the current machines are arguably faster then the current production pcs... Hopefully by march there will be no doubt!!

Hopefully by march I will be rich enough again
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Old Nov 19, 2003, 05:58 PM   #23
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Announced in March 04. Shipping in October 04?

So pleased I always wait for the second version ...
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Old Nov 19, 2003, 05:59 PM   #25
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I have a Dual 2GHz, but I'm not upgrading for a few years. I'm just happy that apple is getting better and better, no matter how 'slow' my G5 becomes compared to their top of the line machine. GREAT NEWS!!!!!! Bring em' on!

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