Mac OS X 10.5.3 9D29, Time Machine on Battery Power

MacRumors · 03:34 AM

Apple's latest Mac OS X 10.5.3 build (9D29) was released to developers last week. The ongoing developer seeds addressed a number of new bug fixes while we await the final code for release. There had been some hints that this latest build might become the final release for consumers, but we have not heard any further confirmation on that.

The bulk of the changes to the 10.5.3 update appear to include bug and stability issues, but one new Time Machine option was noted by AppleInsider that allows laptop users to initiate Time Machine backups even on battery power. In the current public version (10.5.2), Time Machine backups are suspended while on battery power. The option appears to default to "off" in the latest build.

Apple is continuing to test Mac OS X 10.5.3 with developers, but will be released as a free upgrade to existing Mac OS X 10.5.2 users in the near future.

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DMann · May 13, 2008, 12:54 AM

Looking forward to 10.5.3

callmemike20 · May 13, 2008, 01:00 AM

I can't wait. I hope it fixes the many BBoD i've been getting recently.

/dev/toaster · May 13, 2008, 01:01 AM

Ah, this will be very useful. A strange thing this is good for is when the power goes out and I am running on battery. (Yes, all my devices have a UPS) That will prevent having a corrupt backup due to the UPS running out.

Totally off topic, but I really hope 10.5.3 fixes the hanging problems in Mail.app.

nagromme · May 13, 2008, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by callmemike20

I can't wait. I hope it fixes the many BBoD i've been getting recently.

Is that anything like a TBOD? (Transparent Bezel of Death?)

Small White Car · May 13, 2008, 01:16 AM

Is it just me, or does it seem like Apple has been a LOT more responsive to customer concerns since Leopard came out?

I'm thinking of the un-do-the-clear menu-bar option, the changes to stacks to add list view, and now this.

I seem to remember the Tiger updates being the kind of things that needed improving just because they needed fixing, not because someone asked for a feature online somewhere.

But these days it seems like they're changing a lot of little things that I've seen complained about here first. If this is an actual change in policy on Apple's part, I heartily approve!

attila · May 13, 2008, 01:17 AM

So noone has noticed the plus and minus buttons in the backup-drive list?

Small White Car · May 13, 2008, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by attila

So noone has noticed the plus and minus buttons in the backup-drive list?

You're talking about the ones in the story's image?

Those buttons are there now in 10.5.2. No difference.

yayaba · May 13, 2008, 01:21 AM

Cool, I haven't had any real problems with 10.5.2 (it fixed my wifi problem thank God) but 10.5.3 should only be better!

rpaloalto · May 13, 2008, 01:23 AM

Not important, but!
Wow this is pretty cool. I'm about to get a new mac pro any time now. The interesting thing is the last mac I bought was a imac with 10.3.3. Looks like my new one will be 10.5.3.

rstansby · May 13, 2008, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by /dev/toaster

Ah, this will be very useful. A strange thing this is good for is when the power goes out and I am running on battery. (Yes, all my devices have a UPS) That will prevent having a corrupt backup due to the UPS running out.

I'm pretty sure this will only apply to laptop batteries, not UPS batteries.

The Flashing Fi · May 13, 2008, 01:26 AM

Cool. I do hope that Apple fixes the lagging that happens when you have it set to change the wallpaper. It lags really bad when it changes the wallpaper.

bigandtasty · May 13, 2008, 01:33 AM

The 10.5.3

update will be released no later than WWDC. IMHO

ltldrummerboy · May 13, 2008, 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by attila

So noone has noticed the plus and minus buttons in the backup-drive list?

The plus button is for choosing what folders you don't want to back up. It's not for multiple backup drives.

attila · May 13, 2008, 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Small White Car

You're talking about the ones in the story's image?

Those buttons are there now in 10.5.2. No difference.

Uhm, not on my install... I can't add or remove backup drives. Perhaps you mean an earlier 10.5.3 beta?

Shagrat · May 13, 2008, 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Flashing Fi

Cool. I do hope that Apple fixes the lagging that happens when you have it set to change the wallpaper. It lags really bad when it changes the wallpaper.

You ARE joking, i take it?

Open Sysy prefs, select desktop, select new background...BOOM!

it would take approx a 1/4 of a second (guesstimate) to switch backgrounds. And for that you are complaining?

Sheesh! I'm glad you're not running Vista.

justflie · May 13, 2008, 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shagrat

You ARE joking, i take it?

Open Sysy prefs, select desktop, select new background...BOOM!

it would take approx a 1/4 of a second (guesstimate) to switch backgrounds. And for that you are complaining?

Sheesh! I'm glad you're not running Vista.

I think he means that it's lagging when the desktop background is set to change automatically. You can set it to change the picture every 30 minutes, day, etc. So you point it to a folder of images and it pulls from there. I don't use that feature so I can't speak to whether or not it lags on my machine.

Small White Car · May 13, 2008, 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by attila

Uhm, not on my install... I can't add or remove backup drives.

Oh, wait, what?

No no. That's the part where you exclude drives and folder you DON'T want backed up. Go look at it in the current version.

The other check box (Warn when old backups are deleted) that is in the photo is in that section right now. So that's clearly where the photo is taken from.

.adam · May 13, 2008, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by attila

Uhm, not on my install... I can't add or remove backup drives. Perhaps you mean an earlier 10.5.3 beta?

'System Preferences -> 'Time Machine' -> 'Options'.

The + & - signs are in there.

Stridder44 · May 13, 2008, 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Flashing Fi

Cool. I do hope that Apple fixes the lagging that happens when you have it set to change the wallpaper. It lags really bad when it changes the wallpaper.

I lol'd. Almost believed you.

But really though, I'm looking forward to 10.5.3.

MidiMonk · May 13, 2008, 02:46 AM

I look forward to this and hope that 10.5.3 addresses the wifi drop outs.Plus, something new popped up tonight, Launchd has been spiking real bad and temps are rising to fast for comfort.I read that this is an issue with 10.5 in general, so heres to a fix for that as well.

Otherwise, WinXP

Chundles · May 13, 2008, 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shagrat

You ARE joking, i take it?

Open Sysy prefs, select desktop, select new background...BOOM!

it would take approx a 1/4 of a second (guesstimate) to switch backgrounds. And for that you are complaining?

Sheesh! I'm glad you're not running Vista.

That's not what he means - I've seen it too, when the desktop background changes the whole computer seems to slow down big time for a short period of time. Windows you might be dragging tear and stutter, your mouse leaves a trail across the desktop, it's a definite issue. Minor, but most definitely a bug in the OS that did not happen in Tiger.

attila · May 13, 2008, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Small White Car

Oh, wait, what?

No no. That's the part where you exclude drives and folder you DON'T want backed up. Go look at it in the current version.

The other check box (Warn when old backups are deleted) that is in the photo is in that section right now. So that's clearly where the photo is taken from.

Oh! Silly me. Too bad they aren't where I want them to be, so to say

erkster · May 13, 2008, 02:56 AM

I hope 10.5.3 fixes the issues with ID card readers not working since 10.5 was released.

And also the damned WiFi dropouts!

BWhaler · May 13, 2008, 03:03 AM

I find it interesting that Apple continues to make changes like this.

On the one hand, it's good that Apple is adding functional enhancements and re-engineering poorly designed and thought-through components of Leopard.

On the other hand, Apple had two years between releases, and clearly Leopard was a more poorly designed and buggier than any release we have seen in a very long time. 10.4, 10.3, 10.2...none of them needed patches this large or some massive re-thinks like Leopard.

I just hope Apple learns from the Leopard experience. Some components were very poorly designed, and Leopard was--and still is--way too buggy. In general, Leopard has some very poor engineering.

Apple is going through some interesting changes. I hope it is learning and growing into a great company at "the next level."

May 13, 2008, 12:51 AM	#1
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/dev/toaster macrumors 65816 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Francisco, CA	Ah, this will be very useful. A strange thing this is good for is when the power goes out and I am running on battery. (Yes, all my devices have a UPS) That will prevent having a corrupt backup due to the UPS running out. Totally off topic, but I really hope 10.5.3 fixes the hanging problems in Mail.app. __________________ http://www.jokeped.com http://www.linkped.com

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May 13, 2008, 01:16 AM	#6
Small White Car macrumors 68040 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Washington DC	Is it just me, or does it seem like Apple has been a LOT more responsive to customer concerns since Leopard came out? I'm thinking of the un-do-the-clear menu-bar option, the changes to stacks to add list view, and now this. I seem to remember the Tiger updates being the kind of things that needed improving just because they needed fixing, not because someone asked for a feature online somewhere. But these days it seems like they're changing a lot of little things that I've seen complained about here first. If this is an actual change in policy on Apple's part, I heartily approve!

May 13, 2008, 01:21 AM	#9
yayaba macrumors 6502 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Francisco Bay Area	Cool, I haven't had any real problems with 10.5.2 (it fixed my wifi problem thank God) but 10.5.3 should only be better!

May 13, 2008, 01:23 AM	#10
rpaloalto macrumors 6502a Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Palo Alto CA.	Not important, but! Wow this is pretty cool. I'm about to get a new mac pro any time now. The interesting thing is the last mac I bought was a imac with 10.3.3. Looks like my new one will be 10.5.3.

May 13, 2008, 01:26 AM	#12
The Flashing Fi macrumors 6502a Join Date: Sep 2007	Cool. I do hope that Apple fixes the lagging that happens when you have it set to change the wallpaper. It lags really bad when it changes the wallpaper.

May 13, 2008, 01:33 AM	#13
bigandtasty macrumors regular Join Date: Dec 2006	The 10.5.3 update will be released no later than WWDC. IMHO

May 13, 2008, 02:46 AM	#21
MidiMonk macrumors regular Join Date: Jun 2007	I look forward to this and hope that 10.5.3 addresses the wifi drop outs.Plus, something new popped up tonight, Launchd has been spiking real bad and temps are rising to fast for comfort.I read that this is an issue with 10.5 in general, so heres to a fix for that as well. Otherwise, WinXP

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erkster macrumors newbie Join Date: Jan 2008	I hope 10.5.3 fixes the issues with ID card readers not working since 10.5 was released. And also the damned WiFi dropouts! __________________ Black Macbook 2.0Ghz 2Gb 250Gb HDD 10.5.1 iPod Touch 8Gb

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BWhaler macrumors 68000 Join Date: Jan 2003	I find it interesting that Apple continues to make changes like this. On the one hand, it's good that Apple is adding functional enhancements and re-engineering poorly designed and thought-through components of Leopard. On the other hand, Apple had two years between releases, and clearly Leopard was a more poorly designed and buggier than any release we have seen in a very long time. 10.4, 10.3, 10.2...none of them needed patches this large or some massive re-thinks like Leopard. I just hope Apple learns from the Leopard experience. Some components were very poorly designed, and Leopard was--and still is--way too buggy. In general, Leopard has some very poor engineering. Apple is going through some interesting changes. I hope it is learning and growing into a great company at "the next level." __________________ "Faster, faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death." -- Hunter Thompson

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