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Old May 16, 2008, 07:31 PM   #1
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Desktop OS X Multi-Touch Framework Concept, Demo



While users wait for Apple to implement a full desktop version of Multitouch for Mac OS X, some enterprising users have begun development of a 3rd party framework for full screen multitouch interaction.

Lux, a 3rd party framework developed by Christian Moore, provides "true multitouch interaction" in Mac OS X and other operating systems. Developed using Flash and C++ (flash for rapid development), Moore says the framework is open-source.

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Apple's UITouch its very, very well designed. It runs at the core level, while ours is more a free environment to develop on top... to learn about multitouch and share code.

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Old May 16, 2008, 07:35 PM   #2
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OK, that's pretty damn impressive. We'll all soon be there.
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Old May 16, 2008, 07:38 PM   #3
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It would be cool to have multi-touch available ALONGSIDE keyboard shortcuts for apps like Logic / FCP / Motion / Color. Though we wouldn't get tactile feedback, I'd certainly enjoy on the fly mixing on the Logic faders, rearranging clips in fcp. Again- all these features I would only want alongside current offerings, as I am a but a lab mouse trained to use the current peripherals.
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Old May 16, 2008, 07:40 PM   #4
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i cant see how this will be applicable to the day ol' consumer.

especially any tablet... those are more for commercial uses (hosipitals, restaurants, pro editors, graphic designers etc)

when im at home, on a desk or gettin cozy on the couch (surfing, email or chatting) - i dont want to be reaching in front of me to be touching my monitor / tablet. its very unnatural.
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Old May 16, 2008, 07:42 PM   #5
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Multi-Touch

This brings Multi-Touch to a new level - rumor has it that the next generation of iMacs will implement multi-touch both on screen and also using a multi-touch mouse. Perhaps this is behind the reason that iMacs went all glossy.

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i cant see how this will be applicable to the day ol' consumer.

especially any tablet... those are more for commercial uses (hosipitals, restaurants, pro editors, graphic designers etc)

when im at home, on a desk or gettin cozy on the couch (surfing, email or chatting) - i dont want to be reaching in front of me to be touching my monitor / tablet. its very unnatural.
Very true - I much prefer remote control for that, but for photo rendering, a combination of mouse and multi-touch can be really useful.
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Old May 16, 2008, 07:44 PM   #6
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I don't know where to get the framework... couldn't find it on any of the sites gizmodo linked to. If anyone can find it, paste the link please.

Of course, making the input device is a bit kludgy
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Old May 16, 2008, 08:02 PM   #7
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and the guy apparently built his own multi-touch hardware

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Old May 16, 2008, 08:09 PM   #8
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Of course, making the input device is a bit kludgy
Yeah, well let's hope Apple doesn't take any design cues from that. The last thing I want is an all-new "cardboard and tape" look to my Mac.
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Old May 16, 2008, 08:28 PM   #9
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Yeah, well let's hope Apple doesn't take any design cues from that. The last thing I want is an all-new "cardboard and tape" look to my Mac.
Have you seen the 'Surface' computer by MS? A $10,000 1.5 ton box filled with infrared sensors, cameras, projectors, lenses, supported by mechanical arms driven by electronic engines. It now seems outdated before having the chance to reach the market. Once again, one giant leap forward for technology, one small step backward for MS.
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Old May 16, 2008, 08:31 PM   #10
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This is simply amazing. Motivated people never cease to amaze me. THis is just downright inspirational.
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Brilliant. If only there was some way they could implement this in a coffee table...
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Old May 16, 2008, 08:42 PM   #12
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Wow!!

I would totally buy the tablet if it did anything like that...there are always those that say what is the point...but once the new tech comes out, and people use it, then the naysayers are I can't believe people used keyboards before, they were so backwards!! I know I feel like that when I use the Iphone to text...once u use that, u'll never want to use the keyboard again...that video was off the hook!!
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Old May 16, 2008, 08:45 PM   #13
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I realize most of you all aren't going to believe this, but I thought I would share. My Photography teacher today (I'm a Junior in High School), that a class of 2007 student's father worked to design some of the brushes in Photoshop. He then said that this father is now designing new tools for a touch version of Photoshop, working with Apple, supposedly. I found this VERY interesting.
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Old May 16, 2008, 08:56 PM   #14
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Very cool, should work better if written by Apple.

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I would totally buy the tablet if it did anything like that...there are always those that say what is the point...but once the new tech comes out, and people use it, then the naysayers are I can't believe people used keyboards before, they were so backwards!! I know I feel like that when I use the Iphone to text...once u use that, u'll never want to use the keyboard again...that video was off the hook!!
Naysayers are those with no imagination. They can only think of keyboards and mouse. I remember when those Naysayers were not too conformable with the idea of using a mouse or a graphical interface.

They have no vision, when all one has is a hammer, all problems look like nails.

When one opens our mind and start using our imagination, one discover that interacting with our hands with graphical objects is very natural and efficient.

But the Naysayers would argue otherwise and see no use for this.
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Old May 16, 2008, 09:23 PM   #16
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makes me wonder how a full sized touched screen keyboard would actually feel and how much easier it would be to use accurately compared with iphone/touch.
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Brilliant. If only there was some way they could implement this in a coffee table...
I've got mine of pre-order - ETA Fall/2011
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Very cool, should work better if written by Apple.
I believe Apple already posted a job opening for this guy!
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Brilliant. If only there was some way they could implement this in a coffee table...
That would definitely be cool.
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i cant see how this will be applicable to the day ol' consumer.

especially any tablet... those are more for commercial uses (hosipitals, restaurants, pro editors, graphic designers etc)

when im at home, on a desk or gettin cozy on the couch (surfing, email or chatting) - i dont want to be reaching in front of me to be touching my monitor / tablet. its very unnatural.
That way would be tiring, but I don't think you'd necessarily be reaching any farther than you would your keyboard. I think because of the CRT bulk, we've gotten used to vertical displays, but the touch system would lend itself to slanted use, where your keyboard & mouse might have been. I wouldn't write it off so quickly either. Sometimes ideas take a while to catch on. Heck, it really took the Mac platform 25 years to really catch on. But if a multitouch notebook turns out to have a viable killer app, I would expect it to be accepted very quickly.
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The most useful apps for multi-touch :

iChat conferencing.
Widgets.
Controlling your Apple TV.
Streaming video/audio to your Apple TV/widescreen TV.
Photos.
Spreadsheets on the go.
Presentations on the go.
Synching your Mac or iPhone.

ANY audio/video streaming to any Apple Mac via Airport or WiFi.

The list goes on.
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Yeah, well let's hope Apple doesn't take any design cues from that. The last thing I want is an all-new "cardboard and tape" look to my Mac.
really? I thought that it would be awesome. Not only would it be good for the environment (as carboard easily degrades, or can be burned, which may not be so good ) but people can paint it any color they want! Cardboard and tape=awesomness!

In all seriousness, this looks pretty sweet. Can't wait to see it implemented on a machine that was built to run that way, a la star trek computers. I am pretty excited.
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The most useful apps for multi-touch :

iChat conferencing.
Widgets.
Controlling your Apple TV.
Streaming video/audio to your Apple TV/widescreen TV.
Photos.
Spreadsheets on the go.
Presentations on the go.
Synching your Mac or iPhone.

ANY audio/video streaming to any Apple Mac via Airport or WiFi.

The list goes on.
Don't forget CSI Miami.
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when im at home, on a desk or gettin cozy on the couch (surfing, email or chatting) - i dont want to be reaching in front of me to be touching my monitor / tablet. its very unnatural.
I don't think Apple will make the monitor touch sensitive, as you say, your arms would get tired.

I think they'll make a computer that lays flat on your desk, size of a dinner tray, thin as an MacBook Air. The Microsoft table without the table.
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I don't think Apple will make the monitor touch sensitive, as you say, your arms would get tired.

I think they'll make a computer that lays flat on your desk, size of a dinner tray, thin as an MacBook Air. The Microsoft table without the table.
Sounds like a Multi-Touch Tablet is on the horizon.
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