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Old Nov 24, 2003, 10:46 AM   #1
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Disgruntled iPod user taking on Apple's iPod Battery Policy...


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Old Nov 24, 2003, 10:49 AM   #2
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well done video.

would have a bigger impact if it was still true... since Apple has introduced an official iPod battery replacement policy.

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Old Nov 24, 2003, 11:00 AM   #3
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He still has a very valid point. It took Apple years to finally offer battery replacements.

Just because it's no longer true doesn't mean apple didn't screw iPod users for a long time.
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Old Nov 24, 2003, 11:29 AM   #4
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He still has a very valid point. It took Apple years to finally offer battery replacements.

Just because it's no longer true doesn't mean apple didn't screw iPod users for a long time.
Well, considering the iPods have only been in existence for 2 years.... depending on when u think the iPod's battery goes bad.... they've only been screwing early users for 6 months.

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Old Nov 24, 2003, 11:33 AM   #5
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Apple and batteries is a sore point with a lot of people.

I have an iBook 600 with a 20 minute battery life that I can't get a replacement for and a friend who has an iBook 700 that utterly died after a year of use who also cannot get a repalcement. It sucks!

More support from upstairs would be nice.

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Old Nov 24, 2003, 11:51 AM   #6
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Old Nov 24, 2003, 12:09 PM   #7
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The guys an idiot. Just because YOUR iPod battery dies, doesn't mean that everybody's will die at the SAME TIME! Hardly constitutes discrediting posters for new iPods.
Even if the old gen iPods had low batter lifetimes, the new ones surely do not. So why stop people from buying a new one?
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Old Nov 24, 2003, 12:21 PM   #8
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The guys an idiot. Just because YOUR iPod battery dies, doesn't mean that everybody's will die at the SAME TIME!
You are basically right. It depends on your usage/recharge habits. It's all ways a good rule of thumb to try and use up as much of the battery before recharging to get the most life out of rechargeable batteries. I try to do that as much as I can with my T616 since battery life is really important with cell phones. Luckily, on my iRiver SlimX 400 CD player, there are 2 options when recharging the batteries, one is just a basic recharge and the other is discharge and recharge. An easily addable feature to the iPod with a simple firmware update. Now if only iRiver will release a firmware update for my CD player to support AAC!!!
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Old Nov 24, 2003, 12:25 PM   #9
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I think that he had a great point, the battery should not die after 18 months, and if it does it shouldn't cost that much to replace. I know that apple now has a battery replacement plan, but comon, I paid $400 for my ipod, I would like the battery to last longer than a year and a half. I bought a sony video camera when I was in 8th grade, that was 10 years ago and its rechargeable battery still works like it did when I bought it. Oh well, maybe I am comparing two not very comparable items, but the point is there is battery technoloy that can last, its not like the ipod uses as much power as my camera, or a laptop, I mean is the ipod really that much stress on the battery?

That's just my opinion.
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Old Nov 24, 2003, 12:30 PM   #10
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what a brat

To the Neistat Bros

Gee guys, you expended a lot of effort in letting everyone know and were thoughtful enough in videotaping yourselves defacing a bunch of posters. I was expecting something at least charming or funny, not three minutes of sour grapes. That's a chunk of my life I will never recover.

As for everyone else, don't bother visiting the site, they don't deserve the traffic, I am amazed it triple over the past few hours. Or. Visit it and exceed their bandwidth usage.
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Old Nov 24, 2003, 12:36 PM   #11
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Actually, they haven't.

Not if you live outside the US borders.

Typical apple policy - ignore the non-US markets.


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well done video.

would have a bigger impact if it was still true... since Apple has introduced an official iPod battery replacement policy.

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Old Nov 24, 2003, 12:36 PM   #12
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I've had my iPod for almost two years now, I still get 6-8 hours of life out of the battery with regular use.
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Old Nov 24, 2003, 12:39 PM   #13
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You're right, it's nothing more than a waste of time. There are always going to be a few lemons out there no matter what it is you're buying. You just chalk it up to experience and move on. Besides, aren't broken iPods going for $100-200 on eBay? I'd just sell mine there for whatever I could get for it and then go buy a new one if mine ever died.
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if ipods were a lot less expensive, i don't think people would have such a problem. if ipods would cost $150-200, people wouldn't give a sh#t about the battery issue, 'cause in 2 years they'd upgrade to a larger ipod anyway.
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if ipods were a lot less expensive, i don't think people would have such a problem. if ipods would cost $150-200, people wouldn't give a sh#t about the battery issue, 'cause in 2 years they'd upgrade to a larger ipod anyway.
you underestimate people's ability to complain.

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Too bad the guy failed to do some research before going to all this work to find out that there are replacement batteries on the market and instructions on how to do so.

Also yes, battery use and proper charging do have a lot to do with battery life. Unfortunately Apple does not explain this and the vast majority of the world does not know how to extend the life of there batteries through maintenance. So in affect it is Apples fault for not educating there consumers.
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I think the video is great!

I also think Apple charges to much for the replacement battery.

I'm gald there's online alternatives even though they cost $50.

It will be a better day when you can replace your iPod battery for $10.
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Old Nov 24, 2003, 04:34 PM   #18
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Yeah I liked the video, glad to see Apple finally realised that Li-Ion batteries only last 2 years and are offering replacements.
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Old Nov 24, 2003, 04:39 PM   #19
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I think that some people will act like idiots and videotape themselves defacing other's property.

Hell, while we're thinking, I'm gonna think of some hot wimmin with free pizza!
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Old Nov 24, 2003, 04:43 PM   #20
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my ipod is 19 months old and still gets better life than you'd get out of a 3rd Gen. ipod fresh out of the package.

if and when it dies, I'll get a $50 replacement. I won't go around crying and vandalizing.
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You are basically right. It depends on your usage/recharge habits. It's all ways a good rule of thumb to try and use up as much of the battery before recharging to get the most life out of rechargeable batteries. I try to do that as much as I can with my T616 since battery life is really important with cell phones. Luckily, on my iRiver SlimX 400 CD player, there are 2 options when recharging the batteries, one is just a basic recharge and the other is discharge and recharge. An easily addable feature to the iPod with a simple firmware update. Now if only iRiver will release a firmware update for my CD player to support AAC!!!

IIRC the iPod uses a Lithium-Ion battery. Those types of batteries do not develop "memories" so they do not need to be fully discharged before recharing. In fact quite the opposite is true. Fully discharing a Lithium-Ion battery could be harmful to the battery and manufacturers recommend frequent recharges to keep the battery level up as opposed to infrequent recharges and allowing the battery to drain all the way down.

Laslo Panaflex, no offense but I'm calling BS. I don't believe that a 10 year-old battery that gets regular use in your video camera has not lost any recharge ability at all? If Sony could make a battery that had a 10 year lifespan w/o losing any of it's capacity they would own the battery market.


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one of the stupidest things i've ever seen.

can't we bring him to court for vandalism? we have video proof

but then again, people are just stupid sometimes.
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Old Nov 24, 2003, 05:28 PM   #23
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It is in violation of federal law to record a telephone conversation without making the other party aware of the fact beforehand.

It's beyond idiotic to break a federal law and then video yourself breaking another law (vandalism).

It's even dumber to break the above two laws and then publicly flaunt the fact on a website that is registered under your own name, address, and phone number.

'Nuff said.
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Re: Disgruntled iPod user taking on Apple's iPod Battery Policy...

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Someone's been watching a few too many Target Market\Truth ads on TV

Seriously though. If I spent $500 on a device like this I'd expect better batt life. 500 charges isn't a whole heck of a lot. Maybe 800 or something. I know I've done well over 500 charges on my Pocket PC with a Li-polymer battery and its still going strong. :\
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It is in violation of federal law to record a telephone conversation without making the other party aware of the fact beforehand.

It's beyond idiotic to break a federal law and then video yourself breaking another law (vandalism).

It's even dumber to break the above two laws and then publicly flaunt the fact on a website that is registered under your own name, address, and phone number.

'Nuff said.

Well, not that I think they thought this far ahead, but you don't know if the person on the phone is an Apple rep or just an "actor" parroting what the Apple rep told these guys when they called. Also, the laws about taping phone conversations vary by state. For example, here in Indiana only one party needs to consent to the recording of the conversation for the act of recording the call to be legal.

If anything these guys could be sued for slander... libel (I always get those two mixed up)? That is assuming of course that their iPod battery problem was more of a fluke and less of a common experience. I also think that the because they made a specific claim (18 months battery life) that it would be easier to sue them than if they made a more general, subjective claim (iPod battery life blows). Of course I doubt Apple will sue them 'cause that will only make this thing more popular. In a month it will be just another internet memory.


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