3G iPhone to Support 42Mbps Evolved HSPA?

[MacRumors]

At this point, it seems obvious that the next version of the iPhone will support 3G technology, allowing for faster download speeds than the current iPhone EDGE network. Specifically, the 3G-capable iPhone will reportedly support a protocol known as HSPA. AT&T just announced that they will be completing their HSPA deployment by June, in time for the rumored 3G iPhone launch.

HSPA comes in a variety of speeds, however, and AT&T's implementation is said to offer 1.4 Mbps (~175KB/s) download and 800Kbps (100KB/s) upload speeds when complete. A newer version of HSPA called Evolved HSPA, however, promises speeds of 42 Mbps (~5250KB/s).

Channelnews.com.au claims that the new iPhone will indeed be able to support these network speeds on Australia's Telstra network. According to a senior executive of Telstra:

We know what is coming we have seen the new device and it will be available on our network as soon as it is launched in the USA. By Xmas this phone will be capable of 42mbs which will make it faster than a lot of broadband offerings and the fastest iPhone on any network in the world

Apple is rumored to launch the 3G-capable iPhone on June 9th at the Worldwide Developer Conference.

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[ppc_michael]

That's great! Sounds like they're taking the iPhone's biggest weakness and making it its biggest strength.

(At the same time, it demonstrates once again how far behind the US is in mobile services.)

[M. Malone]

This is GREAT! So are we stuck with the new iphone for years to come? I would love that

[yvonnejim]

Just to get a feel for how fast this is, what is the download and upload speeds when using EDGE ??

[jlanuez]

I just hope my new iPhone will make telephone calls.
Currently, it drops call, can not connect to the AT&T network to even get a signal, calls go right to voice mail, on & on...
As it is right now - it is the worst "cell phone" I have ever had.

[swingerofbirch]

Whoa..way faster than my DSL! That would be great for video conferencing and streaming high quality video (TV?).

[clancemasterj]

That's faster than my DSL connection.

swingerofbirch: you beat me to it!

[ubestbsteppin]

Originally Posted by jlanuez

I just hope my new iPhone will make telephone calls.
Currently, it drops call, can not connect to the AT&T network to even get a signal, calls go right to voice mail, on & on...
As it is right now - it is the worst "cell phone" I have ever had.

Wow, does the ATT coverage map say you have coverage in your area?

Anyway, anything better than HSPA is just a bonus at this point. Can't wait!

[arn]

Originally Posted by yvonnejim

Just to get a feel for how fast this is, what is the download and upload speeds when using EDGE ??

I think EDGE has a theoretical max of 200kbps/s (25 KB/s). But actual speeds seem to be about half that.

edit: someone later down said 473,6kbit/sec is the theoretical max.

arn

[Zwhaler]

This would be truly groundbreaking, I hope we get it!

[amac4me]

Such speeds in the US won't be available for some time.

[BiikeMike]

So, I'm real excited about the new iPhone, but.... The front page IS getting a little ridiculous

[wuha]

Originally Posted by yvonnejim

Just to get a feel for how fast this is, what is the download and upload speeds when using EDGE ??

Theoretically the maximum speed with EDGE is 473,6kbit/sec, which you have to split in an up- and an downloadchannel. (using EDGE one timeslot can have a bandwith up to 59,2 kbit/sec in one direction. The maximum is 8 slots, which you have to spilt in up/downstream)

[Shasterball]

Hello speed! Bye bye battery!

[forcenine]

Telstra can piss off. Their NextG network is terribly buggy, and their plans are absolute rubbish. You guys over in the US think your data plans are bad- check out www.telstra.com and check back after your jaw drops to the floor.

Telstra can go die, please. So glad Apple are giving the phone to every telco in Australia, rather than just the one that has a monopoly.

[xwk88]

42Mbps thats blazing fast...... The cable companies here are boasting their highspeed 10mbps service...... Would we be able to use the iphone as a modem to connect a laptop to the net at 3g speeds..... As for the us mobile data service it is out dated..... Bu at least verizon is doing something about the fixed service i am eagerly waiting for fios to come by my place so i can say good bye to cable and start getting their 30 mbps service....... Now that must be very fast.......

[TonyHoyle]

Is there a shipping (in volume) chipset that supports this speed? As far as I know there isn't. The SGOLD3H certainly doesn't support it (it can't even do 14.4 - it's limited to 7.2). Without the chipset this aint gonna happen on the current model at least. A future iphone will probably support LTE and HSPA+ in a few years when there's a network to support it - maybe that's what the exec is referring to.

Plus it's doubtful you could write to flash that fast anyway..the iphones wifi is similarly limited.

[mrrory]

That would be monstrously cool!

[arn]

Originally Posted by TonyHoyle

Is there a shipping (in volume) chipset that supports this speed? As far as I know there isn't. The SGOLD3H certainly doesn't support it (it can't even do 14.4 - it's limited to 7.2).

I don't know if there is a chipset that supports it well, but the SGOLD3H is not necessarily the chip in the 3G iphone. The SGOLD reference in the sdk was for the SGOLD3, not SGOLD3H. So it probably didn't mean anything.

arn

[ShooMoe]

So.. will the 3G make it easier to receive calls or will AT&T iphone service in my area still SUCK.. I constantly drop calls.. I agree.. Nice toy but worst phone I have ever had...

[iCantwait]

ignoring what forcenine said, i think now is the best time to yell...

AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE





just waiting for the reply now

[TonyHoyle]

Originally Posted by arn

I don't know if there is a chipset that supports it well, but the SGOLD3H is not necessarily the chip in the 3G iphone. The SGOLD reference in the sdk was for the SGOLD3, not SGOLD3H. So it probably didn't mean anything.

arn

It would make sense to stick with the same manufacturer so you don't have to interface with a completely new hardware/software combination - but whether or not they use the SGOLD3H unless someone can point to an HSPA+ compatible chipset that was released sometime last year and in volume now (to cover the iphone development/release times) then this looks very doubtful.

[gmoney550]

Is evolved hspa faster than wifi? And if it is can you tell me how much?

[klagermkii]

This isn't going to happen, there are no other phones out there with support for HSPA+ neither are the networks ready for HSPA+. Safari and the CPU on the iPhone isn't even fast enough to take full advantage of 7.2Mbps HSDPA, let alone HSPA+. Right now the only use of HSPA+ would be to use it on your laptop via the iPhone, and we haven't heard about any improved support for tethering.

[bacaramac]

I don't know, did anyone hear about he C2D Processor in the MBA before it came out? Apple for some reason seems to get things before the world knows about it. Could be the same situation here.