Next Version of Photoshop to be GPU-Accelerated

MacRumors · May 24, 2008, 01:24 PM

TGDaily reports that the next version of Adobe's Photoshop application will take advantage of video cards graphics processing units (GPUs) to provide a dramatic improvement in performance.

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So, what can you do with general-purpose GPU (GPGPU) acceleration in Photoshop? We saw the presenter playing with a 2 GB, 442 megapixel image like it was a 5 megapixel image on an 8-core Skulltrail system. Changes made through image zoom and through a new rotate canvas tool were applied almost instantly. Another impressive feature was the import of a 3D model into Photoshop, adding text and paint on a 3D surface and having that surface directly rendered with the 3D models' reflection map.

These features are expected to be introduced in Adobe's next version of Creative Suite (CS4) which is expected in October of this year. GPU acceleration has been used in many aspects of Mac OS X's Core Animation and Core Image.

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shiunn · May 24, 2008, 01:26 PM

who needs a 442 megapixel picture?

bacaramac · May 24, 2008, 01:28 PM

Marketing (billboards, etc)? I would guess they need a quality picture.

xUKHCx · May 24, 2008, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by shiunn

who needs a 442 megapixel picture?

Some people do but it was used, as an extreme example, to highlight the speed increases seen by moving to the new features.

Mike Teezie · May 24, 2008, 01:31 PM

I can't wait for this. Hopefully Bridge will get the same treatment.

Southernboy · May 24, 2008, 01:31 PM

CS4 in October? Seems like only recently that CS3 came out. I have a strong feeling that I'm about to skip a version.

schnb · May 24, 2008, 01:37 PM

this wont be too great for integrated GPUs will it..
or will there still be improvement but only slightly? hm.

Gherkin · May 24, 2008, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Southernboy

CS4 in October? Seems like only recently that CS3 came out. I have a strong feeling that I'm about to skip a version.

Yea, from what I can find on the web, there was about a 2 year gap between CS2 and CS3. October seems a little early for CS4. Is that really when it's projected to come out?

chaosbunny · May 24, 2008, 01:43 PM

Yes please Adobe add more features that are useful about once or twice a year...

How about different sized pages in InDesign? Or gradients to transparency in Illustrator? Guess we'll never see these.

viperguy · May 24, 2008, 01:44 PM

Agreed, it stills seems like CS3 was launched... yesterday.

hyddan · May 24, 2008, 01:44 PM

That sounds great! I hope they do corel painter-esque canvas rotation with this, and that it natively works on intel OSX from the start, of course.

On the negative side I can see photoshop buffed with even more features and separate versions I'll never see or use (the CS2 from CS1 transition for example). But hopefully it will fit right in.

john7jr · May 24, 2008, 02:03 PM

Adobe said somewhere that they intend to make more regular updates, perhaps even yearly, to their lineup. So this could be very cool. October, huh?

Too bad it was also announced that CS4 would only be 64-bit on Windows, not on the Mac until CS5.

northernpaul · May 24, 2008, 02:04 PM

perhaps they'll decide to include support for case-sensitive file systems too

bdkennedy1 · May 24, 2008, 02:05 PM

This will be absolutely kick-ass.

Speed is always a graphic designers friend. The amount of time saved will be terrific.

neven · May 24, 2008, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by chaosbunny

Yes please Adobe add more features that are useful about once or twice a year...

Order-of-magnitude improvements in the speed of zooming, panning, scaling, and general rendering is something that would only be useful to you once or twice a year?

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Originally Posted by chaosbunny

How about different sized pages in InDesign? Or gradients to transparency in Illustrator? Guess we'll never see these.

New features are the LAST thing we need. Most Photoshop professionals I know are still using the features of Photoshop 7 99% of the time. And this *is* a bit of news about Photoshop, not about InDesign or the rest of CS.

!¡ V ¡! · May 24, 2008, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bdkennedy1

This will be absolutely kick-ass.

Speed is always a graphic designers friend. The amount of time saved will be terrific.

There are two types of graphic designers:

1. Trial and Error; or

2. Visionary and the minimal steps to obtain it.

Which one are you?

gkarris · May 24, 2008, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by schnb

this wont be too great for integrated GPUs will it..
or will there still be improvement but only slightly? hm.

If the GPU has certain features, then I would think that Adobe would tap into into it. I would imagine you would need a minimum X3100, though.

Mitch1984 · May 24, 2008, 02:12 PM

Wish they re-write the apps in cocoa, would it be faster then?

!¡ V ¡! · May 24, 2008, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitch1984

Wish they re-write the apps in cocoa, would it be faster then?

Yes, to an extent it would be faster. Not sure why Adobe® does not rewrite it in Cocoa and make it 64-bit multi-processor aware. Take another year to do this as I care less for CS4. Skip CS4 and once the above it met release it under whatever naming scheme it deems. Just get it done.

bobertoq · May 24, 2008, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitch1984

Wish they re-write the apps in cocoa, would it be faster then?

Photoshop CS4 will not be cocoa. It'll still be 32-bit

but photoshop CS5 will be cocoa

!¡ V ¡! · May 24, 2008, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by neven

New features are the LAST thing we need. Most Photoshop professionals I know are still using the features of Photoshop 7 99% of the time. And this *is* a bit of news about Photoshop, not about InDesign or the rest of CS.

How true indeed?

For me it would be v6 - 7 though, v5.5 was the turning point though for PS.

john7jr · May 24, 2008, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by !¡ V ¡!

Yes, to an extent it would be faster. Not sure why Adobe® does not rewrite it in Cocoa and make it 64-bit multi-processor aware. Take another year to do this as I care less for CS4. Skip CS4 and once the above it met release it under whatever naming scheme it deems. Just get it done.

That's what they are going to do. CS4 will continue to use the 32-bit Carbon APIs, which thanks to Apple changing their mind about it - didn't go 64-bit along with the Cocoa APIs in Leopard. But by CS5 they expect to have enough of it re-written to go 64-bit.

kresh · May 24, 2008, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bobertoq

Photoshop CS4 will not be cocoa. It'll still be 32-bit

but photoshop CS5 will be cocoa

I'll believe it when I see it. I'm still expecting in 2009 to see an Adobe announcement that converting the CS Suite to Cocoa is not going very well, Apple's XCode is not as versatile as Code Warriors or Microsoft's stuff, and have decided to throw all their support behind adding dedicated support files for Parallels and Fusion users running Windows or the Dual Boot option.

Wigletbill · May 24, 2008, 02:27 PM

Or is this update a little soon!?

How about supporting the $3k+ CS3 suite with updates!!!? I mean they thing came out in April of '07. I am all for innovation but it seems like maybe we could get some upgrades through the software updater before they drop a new version 18 months later for another 3k.

J

TSE · May 24, 2008, 02:29 PM

This will most likely speed up the MacBook Pro with photoshop, but slow down the MacBooks.

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May 24, 2008, 01:26 PM	#2
shiunn macrumors 6502 Join Date: Dec 2006	who needs a 442 megapixel picture?

May 24, 2008, 01:37 PM	#7
schnb macrumors newbie Join Date: May 2008	this wont be too great for integrated GPUs will it.. or will there still be improvement but only slightly? hm.

May 24, 2008, 01:44 PM	#10
viperguy macrumors 6502 Join Date: Nov 2005	Agreed, it stills seems like CS3 was launched... yesterday.

May 24, 2008, 01:44 PM	#11
hyddan macrumors member Join Date: Dec 2006	That sounds great! I hope they do corel painter-esque canvas rotation with this, and that it natively works on intel OSX from the start, of course. On the negative side I can see photoshop buffed with even more features and separate versions I'll never see or use (the CS2 from CS1 transition for example). But hopefully it will fit right in.

May 24, 2008, 02:03 PM	#12
john7jr macrumors regular Join Date: Aug 2003	Adobe said somewhere that they intend to make more regular updates, perhaps even yearly, to their lineup. So this could be very cool. October, huh? Too bad it was also announced that CS4 would only be 64-bit on Windows, not on the Mac until CS5.

May 24, 2008, 02:04 PM	#13
northernpaul macrumors newbie Join Date: Feb 2008	perhaps they'll decide to include support for case-sensitive file systems too

May 24, 2008, 02:05 PM	#14
bdkennedy1 macrumors 6502 Join Date: Dec 2003	This will be absolutely kick-ass. Speed is always a graphic designers friend. The amount of time saved will be terrific.

May 24, 2008, 02:27 PM	#24
Wigletbill macrumors member Join Date: Oct 2003	Is it just me.... Or is this update a little soon!? How about supporting the $3k+ CS3 suite with updates!!!? I mean they thing came out in April of '07. I am all for innovation but it seems like maybe we could get some upgrades through the software updater before they drop a new version 18 months later for another 3k. J

May 24, 2008, 02:29 PM	#25
TSE macrumors 65816 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: St. Paul, Minnesota	This will most likely speed up the MacBook Pro with photoshop, but slow down the MacBooks. __________________ HP DM3 ~ 13.3" Screen ~ 1.6GHZ AMD Neo Dual Core ~ ATI Radeon Mobility 3200HD ~ 4 GB RAM ~ 320 GB HD ~ Windows 7 Home Premium

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