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Join Date: Apr 2001
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First Venture Capital Funded iPhone Apps: Whrrl, iControl
![]() When Apple announced the iPhone Software Development Kit (SDK) in March, they also announced the creation of a $100 million dollar "iFund" by venture capital firm Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers. Businessweek reports on the first two companies that have been chosen to receive funding out of over 1700 submissions. Pelago's Whrrl application ties the iPhone's mapping capabilities to help find out restaurants and services in your area: Quote:
Kleiner Perkins has reportedly extended one more offer to another company and has 10 others they are seriously considering. Though no agreements have been put in place, Pelago is optimistic that they could be featured by Apple either at the WWDC keynote or even as a bundled application with the iPhone. Article Link |
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Join Date: Dec 2002
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Those both sound like perfect apps for the iPhone and I'm glad they are being made, although I kind of expected the location-based recommendation service to be done by an Apple/Google partnership...
The home automation will really make the iPhone appeal to upper-class and many geeks as well. Just more market share...
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How exactly will the iphone be able to control lighting?!? Will I have to connect a device to each light switch?
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Bundled? I doubt it. Apple wouldn't support 3rd party apps like that. Possibly featured, and there's always Apple Design Awards if they applied for that (and I would assume they did). Sure to be lots of iPhone-related Design Awards this year, if only they would stop screwing with the SDK!
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Join Date: Apr 2005
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Now this is how to build a platform. VCs role in helping build out the iPhone platform cannot be understated. The iPhone is and will continue to change how we conduct our lives.
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I have never done that before, so I'm kind of in the dark on this one. So does that mean with every sale of iControl you have to spend another x amount of dollars on all the little mechanisms that flick the lights on and off? Where do you even buy these?
EDIT: No pun intended... Last edited by Mykbibby : May 27, 2008 at 10:41 AM. |
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Join Date: Jun 2003
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Its not an inexpensive proposition. Especially when you start tying in control of hvac and alarm systems. It imperative to start with a flexible base system. |
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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The word is actually spelled "capital."
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Join Date: Feb 2003
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Agreed, though I kinda expected both apps to be done by apple (and/or google).
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Join Date: Nov 2003
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Judging by the linked websites, these products don't seem to be iPhone-only, or even originally developed for the iPhone. While it's great that companies are porting over their applications to the iPhone, I was hoping that an iPhone-centric VC fund would give us apps that take advantage of the platforms unique properties.
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Are the VCs that stupid?
(This is based on the little info in the article.)
While the home automation tool seems alright but Whrrl? How is this supportable and actually generate money outside of the Apps purchase price? You can already search for restaurants via Maps (search = food type, zip code.) Connections into social networks to find local activities? What happens when those sites change their APIs? Will the app be updated/supported for free or will users be forced into paid upgrades? This just seems like it could be a web app not a native app. With a web app you could continue the revenue stream with ads. If the native app goes the route of the announced ZUNE strategy with ads on the device, I doubt it will take on. |
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I couldn't tell from the iControl website, but I hope they allow the app to interface with X10 devices.
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Join Date: Apr 2006
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There are newer home control systems out there like Colorado Vnet. That's something for all you rich guys who don't feel like buying a new BMW this year, or sending your children to college. It's a whole home control system (audio, lighting, climate, security, television, etc) that is all run via CAT5 wire and controlled with touch screen panels. As you can imagine, a system like this was meant to be paired with a remote device like the iPhone, as it's table top "remote" that it comes with is about the size of a macbook... no joke. And their touch screen isn' the most responsive. Anyway, nerd rant off. To answer the original question- you have to redo your entire switching for something like this to work. An i'd imagine that costing the average person about $3k for a 3 bedroom home... so... no dice
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I would have hoped for some truly innovative and unique apps but these two entries are simply iPhone versions of already existing products. |
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Join Date: Jun 2007
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This isn't a desktop computer where "bundle-ware" is much less apparent to the end-user. Bundled software on an iPhone would be *bam* right there on the front screen. That's quite some "free" recognition to just give away.
Attempting to compare the two very different platforms like you just did is just wrong. |
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Hmmm.. As much as I like my iPhone, I don't for see investing heavely in a home automation system to take advantage of this. I could for see myself adding something to the lights say in the living room etc. Pulling up to my drive way hit a button on the iPhone and the lights all come on. But even that would be a little chunk of change.
I already have a remote that can do all of the above, from within my house. That is of course if I wanted to invest in the home lighting or hvac. Why would I use my iPhone in the house when my current remote can do it. With the exception of the above, scenario. Next please.......
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Doesn't Google Maps do what Whrrl's talking about already?
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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If you don't want to wait you can try the StreetFlow app that does location based restaurant recommendations right now. You can even see photos of people's food it's really cool.
Not the best vid but hopefully you'll see this stuff is available right now. http://www.installerapps.com/2008/05/09/streetflow/ |
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Some of it (like "only Italian Restaurants") yes, other things (for example the stuff you're friends/social networks recommend) not.
I've once been on a visiter day at a computer science college and they had a HP smartphone (or was it an Palm Tungsten?) with which they were experimenting stuff like light control/music controly and stuff in yur household. But it was very experimental back then. But it was looking pretty cool and useful. *want have*
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Join Date: Jul 2004
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If the latter, the cost can be quite reasonable, using individual device controllers and a central master control (controlled by the iPhone/Touch, with the control signals transmitted over the house wiring). This (lower cost) incremental approach would appeal to many, especially renters. However, if you add security and [remote] monitoring to the mix of applications, then $3K is a pittance, compared to the cost of security and replacement of, say, multiple computers, HDTVs, Stereos, etc... might even be able to recoup the costs with lower insurance rates. Interesting, that Mike Markkula, after he left Apple, started a company to do just this sort of control. The company is Echelon ELON. link When the iPhone was announced, this (iControl) app seemed such a natural that I invested in ELON. Then, about $8-- currently about $12. I don't know what the relationship is between Mike and Steve is, but their companies could do well by jointly exploiting this capability: --Echelon has the controllers and infrastructure for local and remote device monitoring/control --Apple has (will have) the best of breed Universal [monitor and] Remote controller
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