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Old May 28, 2008, 04:06 PM   #1
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Apple Releases iPhone Beta SDK 6






Besides releasing Mac OS X 10.5.3 today, Apple also released a new version of the iPhone SDK (Beta 6). No details have been posted. Apple should be wrapping up development of the iPhone SDK which is expected to complete by late June. Apple will be covering many aspects of the iPhone SDK during their Worldwide Development Conference which starts on June 9th.

Previous versions of the iPhone SDK and Beta 2.0 Firmware have revealed new features coming to the iPhone, including Geotagging, 3G preferences, Chinese handwriting recognition, and Photo saving,

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Old May 28, 2008, 04:09 PM   #2
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This iPhone will be packed with new and interesting features by the time it's released. As we're inching closer to WWDC we'll surely see an announcement soon. Looking forward to finally owning an iPhone!
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Old May 28, 2008, 04:10 PM   #3
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Cool....less than 2 weeks til WWDC...so excited..
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Old May 28, 2008, 04:12 PM   #4
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I'm a total WWDC virgin, how exciting. Doing the meet ups with a few groups before the big event.
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Old May 28, 2008, 04:13 PM   #5
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It's only gonna be a matter of hours until we see what the new version brings...
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Old May 28, 2008, 04:23 PM   #6
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cool my birthday is two days before the Worldwide Development Conference ill have a boost on my iphone savings i cant w8 for 3g iphone

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Old May 28, 2008, 04:27 PM   #7
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Interesting, it requires 10.5.3

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Before installing and developing with the sixth beta version of the iPhone SDK, you must first upgrade your Mac system to Mac OS X v10.5.3. To upgrade your Mac, go to System Preferences and select Software Update to install the latest version.
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Old May 28, 2008, 04:31 PM   #8
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Interesting, it requires 10.5.3
ya, i was just about to post that ....
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Old May 28, 2008, 04:35 PM   #9
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Interesting, it requires 10.5.3
In other words, expect Apple's servers to be dead as a stone today.
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Old May 28, 2008, 04:36 PM   #10
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Its interesting that its SDK v6, and not the "final" version. I would expect the final SDK to be released at WWDC and then developers are given until the end of the month (June 27) to get their products ready.
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Old May 28, 2008, 04:38 PM   #11
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In other words, expect Apple's servers to be dead as a stone today.
Yeah and my ISP throttle me after 800MB per day, gone from 10Mbps to 2Mbps because of 10.5.3 and the SDK today
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Old May 28, 2008, 04:41 PM   #12
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once the 2.0 software upgrade hits and the iphone is allowed third party apps the iphone is going to become such a powerful tool and will probably get a lot more people to switch. the iphone how it stands now is going to seem so limited in caparison.

but can we please get for texting the ability to turn the phone sideways and get a horizontal keyboard!
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Old May 28, 2008, 04:42 PM   #13
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It's only gonna be a matter of hours until we see what the new version brings...
I'm hoping it brings a few bug fixes to the table, in addition to new features.
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Old May 28, 2008, 04:55 PM   #14
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Yay! another update to change the API and break my app! Thanks Apple! Keep them coming! (stupid beta)
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Nice in one way but not an ideal SDK.

The one thing that really bothers me about iPhone right now is the XCode based IDE and Objective C. It simply isn't a rapid development platform thus not a good place to try to deploy low volume or limited interest apps.

It is to bad Apple didn't embrace python on the platform, that would have made for an excellent platform for apps that don't need the heavy development that traditional C based languages require.

Now given that the current SDK is a bit lacking I can understand the lack of Python or anything but Objective C. To me it is a sign that Apple really slipped up bad when fleshing out the original iPhone. The IDE should have been under the same amount of development as the iPhone hardware. It is kinda sad that a company with as much cash as Apple couldn't hire a few more software engineers.

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another step to iPhone 2.0! can't wait!
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Yay! another update to change the API and break my app! Thanks Apple! Keep them coming! (stupid beta)
It could be worse - my Macbook's HD died this weekend and I lost all my code. At least you aren't starting from scratch!
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The one thing that really bothers me about iPhone right now is the XCode based IDE and Objective C. It simply isn't a rapid development platform thus not a good place to try to deploy low volume or limited interest apps.

It is to bad Apple didn't embrace python on the platform, that would have made for an excellent platform for apps that don't need the heavy development that traditional C based languages require.

Now given that the current SDK is a bit lacking I can understand the lack of Python or anything but Objective C. To me it is a sign that Apple really slipped up bad when fleshing out the original iPhone. The IDE should have been under the same amount of development as the iPhone hardware. It is kinda sad that a company with as much cash as Apple couldn't hire a few more software engineers.

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you can't use their IDE, but it's there ... not sure how it'd work for deployment onto iPhone... or if there's Cocoa Touch support
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Old May 28, 2008, 05:30 PM   #21
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It could be worse - my Macbook's HD died this weekend and I lost all my code. At least you aren't starting from scratch!
You're writing software and you had nothing backed up???!

Not sure I'd buy YOUR app!!! lol!
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Old May 28, 2008, 05:52 PM   #22
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Yes, because every wants to saddle their phone applications with the overhead of an interpreter.

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The one thing that really bothers me about iPhone right now is the XCode based IDE and Objective C. It simply isn't a rapid development platform thus not a good place to try to deploy low volume or limited interest apps.

It is to bad Apple didn't embrace python on the platform, that would have made for an excellent platform for apps that don't need the heavy development that traditional C based languages require.

Now given that the current SDK is a bit lacking I can understand the lack of Python or anything but Objective C. To me it is a sign that Apple really slipped up bad when fleshing out the original iPhone. The IDE should have been under the same amount of development as the iPhone hardware. It is kinda sad that a company with as much cash as Apple couldn't hire a few more software engineers.

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Mobile Safari seems snappier....

Just kidding, hopefully we can uncover some new gems about the 3G iPhone... like a front camera
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The one thing that really bothers me about iPhone right now is the XCode based IDE and Objective C. It simply isn't a rapid development platform thus not a good place to try to deploy low volume or limited interest apps.

It is to bad Apple didn't embrace python on the platform, that would have made for an excellent platform for apps that don't need the heavy development that traditional C based languages require.
You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but in my opinion, interpreted languages like Python have no place on a mobile device like the iPhone. Battery life is of prime importance and I don't want my battery drained by programs written in languages like Python that are interpreted at run-time on the phone (and as such will drain the battery more) when they could have been written in a much more efficient language like Objective C. This isn't the desktop or a server... it's a mobile device. I'd rather the programmer spend a little bit more time writing a program that is power-efficient.

Have you used Objective C and the various frameworks (UIKit, CoreFoundation, etc.) that Apple provides? They are incredibly rich and offer a ton of functionality to you. You can do so much by using the built-in classes which offer a lot with typically very little coding. I've written some very useful programs with the SDK in less than a day.

Apple is absolutely justified in their choice of Objective C for the iPhone. I hope they keep Flash (another power-inefficient technology) off of the phone as well.
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You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but in my opinion, interpreted languages like Python have no place on a mobile device like the iPhone. Battery life is of prime importance and I don't want my battery drained by programs written in languages like Python that are interpreted at run-time on the phone (and as such will drain the battery more) when they could have been written in a much more efficient language like Objective C. This isn't the desktop or a server... it's a mobile device. I'd rather the programmer spend a little bit more time writing a program that is power-efficient.

Have you used Objective C and the various frameworks (UIKit, CoreFoundation, etc.) that Apple provides? They are incredibly rich and offer a ton of functionality to you. You can do so much by using the built-in classes which offer a lot with typically very little coding. I've written some very useful programs with the SDK in less than a day.

Apple is absolutely justified in their choice of Objective C for the iPhone. I hope they keep Flash (another power-inefficient technology) off of the phone as well.
you do have a very good point, but the number of people that know objective C vs the number of people that know python is vastly different
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