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Old Jun 7, 2008, 02:15 PM   #1
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sell me on hacking my Apple TV

I'm intrigued by all the "patchstick" hacks, and would like to add some functionality to my Apple TV. But, I need some explanation as to the need for all the different codecs that people are clamoring for.

I'm not experienced in swapping videos through torrents--is this the reason many users like the added codecs? Is this a way for me to get more content on my Apple TV? Does this practice put you at risk from a legal standpoint?

My only experience is 1.) ripping my DVDs to view on my Mac/Apple TV/iPhone and 2.) copying (then encoding) video streams from my DVR to my Mac for viewing on Mac/Apple TV/iPhone.

I'd love to cut down on the time I spend encoding files--I'd love to play max quality stuff on the Apple TV and save me the time encoding.

Do any hacks allow for playing DVD disc images or .iso files?

What about transport streams from my DVR (.ts files)?

any help is appreciated,

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Old Jun 7, 2008, 02:45 PM   #2
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Standard ATV canot play Divx, mpeg etc. movies. By adding codecs to a patched aTV, you get the possibility to use many more different file formats.

http://wiki.awkwardtv.org/wiki/List_of_file_formats_working_on_Apple_TV


Some Patchsticks (apparently the one from ATV4Windows) heavily messes around with the bootloader and puts people at risk to brick their ATV.
As long as you can restore your ATV using factory reset, there is no issue with the warranty.
Using nitoTV (another plugin), you can play DVD image files.
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Old Jun 7, 2008, 03:07 PM   #3
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Standard ATV canot play Divx, mpeg etc. movies. By adding codecs to a patched aTV, you get the possibility to use many more different file formats.

http://wiki.awkwardtv.org/wiki/List_of_file_formats_working_on_Apple_TV


Some Patchsticks (apparently the one from ATV4Windows) heavily messes around with the bootloader and puts people at risk to brick their ATV.
As long as you can restore your ATV using factory reset, there is no issue with the warranty.
Using nitoTV (another plugin), you can play DVD image files.
I used ATV4Windows on my 2.0.2 AppleTV and it installed fine. All the features work fine plus I can use an external USB drive and keyboard, mount network disks, FTP and SSH. If anything goes wrong or you decide to uninstall you can just restore to factory (Just like new).
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Old Jun 13, 2008, 12:31 PM   #4
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chas0001,

Are you sure that a factory reset completely removed the ATV4windows patches? I've been playing with one for a week and I can't get SMB mounts to work. If I don't sort it out today I'm giving up and taking the atv back.
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Old Jun 13, 2008, 01:02 PM   #5
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chas0001,

Are you sure that a factory reset completely removed the ATV4windows patches? I've been playing with one for a week and I can't get SMB mounts to work. If I don't sort it out today I'm giving up and taking the atv back.
Yes, a factory restore should do that. Unless Cisco screwed up his newest patch...
Anyway, i am not really sure if I should sell anyone on hacking their ATV, since our self-declared SuperModerator and Informer MikieMikie as around and checking the threads...
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Old Jun 13, 2008, 05:43 PM   #6
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Yes, a factory restore should do that. Unless Cisco screwed up his newest patch...
Anyway, i am not really sure if I should sell anyone on hacking their ATV, since our self-declared SuperModerator and Informer MikieMikie as around and checking the threads...
A factory restore will definitely get rid of any hacks because it restores the OSBoot and Media partitions from a non writable partition on the AppleTV called Apple_Recovery

-bash-2.05b$ diskutil list

/dev/disk0
#: type name size identifier
0: GUID_partition_scheme *37.3 GB disk0
1: EFI 34.0 MB disk0s1
2: Apple_Recovery 400.0 MB disk0s2
3: Apple_HFS OSBoot 900.0 MB disk0s3
4: Apple_HFS Media 35.8 GB disk0s4
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Old Jun 16, 2008, 02:42 PM   #7
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The main draw to hacking for me was to enable divx playback. The other part is I just like doing that kind of stuff. I was moving stuff on and off my Tivo before I got the appleTV and before it was really practical to do so.

I've got a pretty extensive collection of TV shows in avi format that I really didn't want to spend the time transcoding to mp4 to play on my ATV. I did it with a few series so that I could watch them on my iPod, but the time invested to do it was not really worth it in my opinion.

Plus, it's easy to find all of the newest releases out on teh internets in divx format. I can watch them in a matter of moments as opposed to spending 12 or more hours transcoding to mp4.

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Old Jun 30, 2008, 12:04 AM   #8
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A factory restore will definitely get rid of any hacks because it restores the OSBoot and Media partitions from a non writable partition on the AppleTV called Apple_Recovery

-bash-2.05b$ diskutil list

/dev/disk0
#: type name size identifier
0: GUID_partition_scheme *37.3 GB disk0
1: EFI 34.0 MB disk0s1
2: Apple_Recovery 400.0 MB disk0s2
3: Apple_HFS OSBoot 900.0 MB disk0s3
4: Apple_HFS Media 35.8 GB disk0s4
Are you sure about this? ATV4Windows messed up on my ATV. Everything appeared to be going well, then on the final restart after the patching screen it just rebooted to a normal ATV home with no modifications installed. Now my boot sequence is all screwed up as it shows the ATV4W splash screen, then the Apple splash, then goes into the "ATV4W Patching..." screen everytime the ATV is rebooted.

I clicked Factory Restore in the settings and it is doing nothing to clean up the boot sequence. It's still the same crappy sequence described above.
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Old Jun 30, 2008, 12:11 AM   #9
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Did you image your ATV's hard drive before modding it?
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Old Jun 30, 2008, 01:05 AM   #10
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Did you image your ATV's hard drive before modding it?
I have the backup of 2.02 recovery drive and am working on getting it back to norm.

For anybody interested, it looks like Cisco the developer of ATV4W (now ATV Patch) released bum versions. http://hackint0sh.org/forum/showthre...d=1#post309145
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Old Jun 30, 2008, 06:24 AM   #11
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Are you sure about this? ATV4Windows messed up on my ATV. Everything appeared to be going well, then on the final restart after the patching screen it just rebooted to a normal ATV home with no modifications installed. Now my boot sequence is all screwed up as it shows the ATV4W splash screen, then the Apple splash, then goes into the "ATV4W Patching..." screen everytime the ATV is rebooted.

I clicked Factory Restore in the settings and it is doing nothing to clean up the boot sequence. It's still the same crappy sequence described above.
Sorry that you are having problems. I think that the issue is with the patchstick updater itself. There has been a fall out between the programmer of the patchstick (versions 2.3 and above) and the administrator of ATVPatch leaving the project in disarray. Your AppleTV is only part modded.

Leave a message in the ATVPatch (previously ATV4Windows) forums, you should be able to get help from the administrator directly.
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Old Jun 30, 2008, 10:19 AM   #12
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I have the backup of 2.02 recovery drive and am working on getting it back to norm.
Cave Man's first commandment of ATV hacking: Thou shalt always make a backup drive image of thou Apple TV hard drive before hacking it.

Seriously, though, you could be in real trouble getting it back. If your other partitions, you're going to have a heck of a time restoring without an image.
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Old Jun 30, 2008, 11:36 AM   #13
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I'm intrigued by all the "patchstick" hacks, and would like to add some functionality to my Apple TV. But, I need some explanation as to the need for all the different codecs that people are clamoring for.

I'm not experienced in swapping videos through torrents--is this the reason many users like the added codecs? Is this a way for me to get more content on my Apple TV? Does this practice put you at risk from a legal standpoint?

My only experience is 1.) ripping my DVDs to view on my Mac/Apple TV/iPhone and 2.) copying (then encoding) video streams from my DVR to my Mac for viewing on Mac/Apple TV/iPhone.

I'd love to cut down on the time I spend encoding files--I'd love to play max quality stuff on the Apple TV and save me the time encoding.

Do any hacks allow for playing DVD disc images or .iso files?

What about transport streams from my DVR (.ts files)?

any help is appreciated,

scottiep
I hacked mine a few months ago. Bought it first day it came out and tried several times (unsuccessfully) to do the patchstick USB thing. Finally, I relented and cracked the case and quickly discovered it's not nearly as difficult as it sounded. Now it runs nitoTV and I just fugu all the files over to the ATV and I'm able to watch any file type now! I love the ATV - so much so that I got rid of my cable tv and DVR.

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Old Jun 30, 2008, 12:17 PM   #14
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i had no trouble hacking it last night using iClarify's guide.
to get the Apple TV 1.1 update I just searched the .dmg and torrented it.
I installed ATVfiles via the iClarify guide and perian via the engadget guide, and transferred transformers.mkv to my Movies folder for ATVFiles, but when I click on Files, all that shows up is the Media folder...

I'm not trying to hijack your thread, but just chiming in that i had no trouble hacking via patchstick.
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Old Jun 30, 2008, 12:50 PM   #15
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I had mine hacked for a while but I noticed that its performance kept getting slower and slower so I just restored it. I haven't tried it again.
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