OS X 10.6 'Snow Leopard' Seeded to WWDC Developers

MacRumors · Jun 10, 2008, 01:10 AM

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Apple has seeded WWDC developers with an early release of Mac OS X 10.6 'Snow Leopard' today. A photo of the installation disc was posted to MacNotes.de. Meanwhile, a site called OrchardSpy claims to have posted screenshots from the actual installation and reveals a build number of 10A96:

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ert3 · Jun 10, 2008, 01:13 AM

kewl. lets hope for a leak on preformance and features.

yetanotherdave · Jun 10, 2008, 01:25 AM

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System prefrences (32 bit)

I thought it was going to be a full 64 bit system?

nintyuser · Jun 10, 2008, 01:26 AM

That was noticeably new in the System Prefs. it says 32-bit.

I know it's the first build to the public and a dev copy but i wonder if 64-bit would have anything different under the menu.

Peace · Jun 10, 2008, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DrAtheist

I thought it was going to be a full 64 bit system?

Those shots show a Core Duo. I'm guessing the snow is 64-Bit on Core 2 Duo and up.

noloveIII · Jun 10, 2008, 01:30 AM

Well, it is installed on a 32-bit processor so it looks like snow leopard will have full 64-bit kernel with a separate 32-bit kernel for the first gen intel macs and ppc macs

aLoC · Jun 10, 2008, 01:43 AM

Apple are claiming it is a lot more efficient than 10.5, so it would be good if we could see how much mem is in use at end of startup (for example).

haiggy · Jun 10, 2008, 01:47 AM

Is this considered as 10.6? Or is it like 10.5andahalf

ingenious · Jun 10, 2008, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by haiggy

Is this considered as 10.6? Or is it like 10.5andahalf

i'm guessing this is like the OS X x86 release.

balahir · Jun 10, 2008, 01:58 AM

I know this has been discussed previously, but who is going to pay for this release?

richthomas · Jun 10, 2008, 02:02 AM

^ me? why not? look at what it adds http://www.apple.com/macosx/snowleopard/

Quillz · Jun 10, 2008, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by haiggy

Is this considered as 10.6? Or is it like 10.5andahalf

Yes, Snow Leopard is Mac OS X 10.6.

balahir · Jun 10, 2008, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by richthomas

^ me? why not? look at what it adds http://www.apple.com/macosx/snowleopard/

Yeah, I know, but will the average user realize that, and be willing to pay $129 for these under the hood features?

mmendoza27 · Jun 10, 2008, 02:12 AM

I'm excited about this, I'm hoping the developers can give us more information and I'd like to see how it will take advantage of dual-core machines. This is going to be a great move and especially if they allow us to start using that GPU power, I'm expecting a lot of speed improvements on new Intel machines.

Especially once Nehalem comes out, that's when I'll pick up Snow Leopard.

Merry Mat · Jun 10, 2008, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by balahir

Yeah, I know, but will the average user realize that, and be willing to pay $129 for these under the hood features?

Where did it ever say it was going to be $129?

my point is that it is not set in stone....yet

balahir · Jun 10, 2008, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Merry Mat

Where did it ever say it was going to be $129?

my point is that it is not set in stone....yet

Nowhere of course... this is just the price for all other major releases (except for 10.1 which I believe was for free).

nateco · Jun 10, 2008, 02:27 AM

This is probably the best thing announced today.

wallaby · Jun 10, 2008, 02:36 AM

Hey guys, check this out:

What do you suppose "Remote Install OS X" is? Or is this something having to do with being a build?

sebastianlewis · 07:20 PM

Hmm, streamlined, more secure? OK I have a ton of questions:

1. Is PPC dropped yet?
2. Has Apple started using code signing for anything other than what they currently are?
3. What is the difference in battery life between a laptop playing a movie in Quicktime on Leopard and a laptop playing a movie in Quicktime X on Snow Leopard?
4. Does Apple bundle MacPorts?
5. Will Apple add in any sort of package manager or app manager at all? If not, then will they at least provide a way for developers to plug-in to Software Update?
6. Will X11 finally not suck?
7. Does OpenCL use CUDA and does it work with both NVIDIA and ATI cards?
8. Will QuartzGL finally be turned on by default?
9. Will the rest of Carbon finally be officially depreciated?
10. Will Apple open source their Java implementation?
11. Now that the WebKit team has a new JavaScript interpreter, will they follow in the footsteps of Mozilla in adding features newer than JS1.5, and will they add features from ECMAscript, and in particular, IronMonkey?
12. Will they redesign the Firewall security pane to include more features from ipfw?
13. Will they make it boot able from a ZFS volume?
14. Will the file manager finally have write FTP support?
15. Will they add support for /proc?
16. Will the directory structure be more in line with the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard?
17. Will the Cocoa Touch APIs be partially or wholly merged into Mac OS X?
18. Will they finally add Attributes to the Finder?
19. Will ELF compatibility be added?
20. Will the Help System be overhauled and that evil floating window destroyed?

No clearly I'm not expecting a yes to all of these, but each of them could be a piece of the foundation for future work on Mac OS X.... heh.

Sebastian

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Originally Posted by richthomas

^ me? why not? look at what it adds http://www.apple.com/macosx/snowleopard/

AAAHHHHH... while I was making a list of 20 questions... Apple put this page up? Dammit, I looked earlier and the page didn't exist at that time.

Sebastian

aLoC · Jun 10, 2008, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by wallaby

What do you suppose "Remote Install OS X" is? Or is this something having to do with being a build?

That's already in 10.5. I think it's something to do with installing OS X on a Mac with no DVD drive.

richthomas · Jun 10, 2008, 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wallaby

Hey guys, check this out:
…
What do you suppose "Remote Install OS X" is? Or is this something having to do with being a build?

thats for the MacBook Airs if you want to install software from an optical disc from another Mac. came in 10.5.2.

iHerzeleid · 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wallaby

Hey guys, check this out:
http://tinyurl.com/6386p4
What do you suppose "Remote Install OS X" is? Or is this something having to do with being a build?

Interesting note on how small the apps are compared to the size now.

aLoC · Jun 10, 2008, 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sebastianlewis

8. Will QuartzGL finally be turned on by default?

I think Apple already resolved that question in an unexpected way. They decided that it was not going to be a system wide setting at all, and not going to be user adjustable. But rather it will be something that individual developers can turn on for their app if they feel it is the kind of app that will benefit. That is the final solution and is how it will be go forward.

sebastianlewis · Jun 10, 2008, 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aLoC

I think Apple already resolved that question in an unexpected way. They decided that it was not going to be a system wide setting at all, and not going to be user adjustable. But rather it will be something that individual developers can turn on for their app if they feel it is the kind of app that will benefit. That is the final solution and is how it will be go forward.

Thanks, I knew it was set by the developer in Leopard but I didn't know it was going to remain like that.

Sebastian

Genghis Khan · Jun 10, 2008, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by balahir

I know this has been discussed previously, but who is going to pay for this release?

i'll pay for it, the speed increase is always worth it

but that said, a lot of non-power users won't see the value in a new operating system that doesn't add any 'features'

i'm expecting at least 10-20% speed bump across the board, and that makes it cheap at $129

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nintyuser macrumors newbie Join Date: Jan 2008	That was noticeably new in the System Prefs. it says 32-bit. I know it's the first build to the public and a dev copy but i wonder if 64-bit would have anything different under the menu.

Jun 10, 2008, 01:30 AM	#6
noloveIII macrumors newbie Join Date: Jun 2008	Well, it is installed on a 32-bit processor so it looks like snow leopard will have full 64-bit kernel with a separate 32-bit kernel for the first gen intel macs and ppc macs

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aLoC macrumors 6502a Join Date: Nov 2006	Apple are claiming it is a lot more efficient than 10.5, so it would be good if we could see how much mem is in use at end of startup (for example).

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