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Old Jun 11, 2008, 06:23 PM   #1
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Using Gmail and Mac Mail (Threads in Inbox?)

I've used Google's instructions to set up my Gmail accounts on Mac Mail using IMAP. The only issue I'm finding is when I have messages in my inbox, all I see are the emails that were sent to me. To see the messages I've send, I can only do this by clicking on sent mail.

Is there anyway to see my messages in their threads just by clicking on the inbox, just how it works when using Gmail via their web site? I can get the view I want when I click "All Mail" but then I have hundreds of emails rather than what's in my inbox. I've searched everywhere but have yet to find a solution.
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Old Jun 13, 2008, 10:14 PM   #2
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I guess what I'm asking is if there's anyway to make the Inbox folder with threaded messages show up in an inbox folder in Mac Mail. I want Mac Mail to work just like Gmail does on the web. Am I just out of luck?
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Old Jun 13, 2008, 10:34 PM   #3
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I think this is what you're looking for.
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Old Jun 14, 2008, 06:25 AM   #4
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I think this is what you're looking for.
I've done that. The threads work perfectly in the "All Mail" folder, but then I have 800 emails from months ago. My Gmail inbox has maybe 3 conversations in it. In Mac Mail's inbox all I can see are the messages received by me, not my responses too. I want to see the entire conversations, just like the inbox in Gmail on the web.
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Old Jun 14, 2008, 10:23 AM   #5
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Short Answer: No.

Long Answer: Apple Mail can only thread together messages that are in the same folder. Therefore, the only way to get the full conversation to show up as a thread in Apple Mail is to use the "All Mail" folder.

Addendum: It may be conceivably possible to hack something together to do this using Smart mailboxes, but that's not really worth it, in my mind. If you want Gmail-style conversations, just use the Gmail web interface (you can have both that and an IMAPed Apple Mail open at the same time, you know).
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Old Jun 15, 2008, 07:49 AM   #6
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Short Answer: No.

Long Answer: Apple Mail can only thread together messages that are in the same folder. Therefore, the only way to get the full conversation to show up as a thread in Apple Mail is to use the "All Mail" folder.

Addendum: It may be conceivably possible to hack something together to do this using Smart mailboxes, but that's not really worth it, in my mind. If you want Gmail-style conversations, just use the Gmail web interface (you can have both that and an IMAPed Apple Mail open at the same time, you know).
I figured this would be the case. It would be nice if Gmail and Apple teamed up to make things work pretty much the same between the Gmail web interface and Mac Mail though. I wonder how this will work with the new iPhone and push mail...

Thanks for your help...
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Old Nov 2, 2008, 05:48 PM   #7
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It is possible

Create a Smart mailbox and add the following filters
  • Contains Messages matching ANY of the following criteria
  • Message is in Mailbox > Inbox
  • Message is in Mailbox > Sent (Make sure your Sent folder is mapped to GMail's Sentfolder)

I have attached a screenshot of the configuration.
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Old Nov 17, 2008, 07:04 PM   #8
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It is possible

Create a Smart mailbox and add the following filters
  • Contains Messages matching ANY of the following criteria
  • Message is in Mailbox > Inbox
  • Message is in Mailbox > Sent (Make sure your Sent folder is mapped to GMail's Sentfolder)

I have attached a screenshot of the configuration.
I can't seem to get it to work. Can you give me a little more detailed instructions? Thanks!
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Old Nov 17, 2008, 08:54 PM   #9
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In so I can find this later.
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Old Nov 24, 2008, 10:23 AM   #10
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I can't seem to get it to work. Can you give me a little more detailed instructions? Thanks!
§€NTiN€L, you still out there?
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Old Nov 25, 2008, 07:05 AM   #11
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Lolz! I'm in.

Can you let me know which part did not work or is unclear to you?
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Old Nov 26, 2008, 06:49 PM   #12
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Lolz! I'm in.

Can you let me know which part did not work or is unclear to you?
I think I got it working now. Do you use both MacMail and the web interface?
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Old Nov 27, 2008, 07:17 AM   #13
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Yeah, I use Mac Mail at home and the web interface at work.
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Old Dec 5, 2008, 04:33 PM   #14
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Thanks, this helped me as well
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Old Jun 26, 2009, 06:21 PM   #15
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Yeah, I use Mac Mail at home and the web interface at work.
exactly what i do.

Here is something i just cooked up for this:

In Mail a smart mailbox can only match ALL conditions or ANY conditions - no combination thereof - which is annoying - BUT you can get around this.

I made a smart mailbox called "All Mail" just as described earlier that matches ANY conditions and includes the Inbox AND the Sent folder .

But this was really slow to load each time with like 3 years of mail, so i wanted to time limit it also to the last 3 months

So I created a 2nd smart mailbox that matches ALL conditions and said include all messages in the "All Mail" smart mailbox (i was surprised you could do that) that are also received in the last 3 months - and it loads really fast. Actually - faster than my standard inbox! I called it "Super Inbox"

If you dont use any other 'dumb' folders to categorize your mail, you could instead just use one smart mailbox that includes message 3 months old and includes message from sent mail (in the checkbox at the bottom of mail's smart mailbox window), but if you are like me and use rules to filter out promotional emails and mailing lists that I might want to look at say once a month into separate folders, then you need to go with the above method of two smart mailboxes so that the contents of those folders don't also show up in your new Gmail-like Super Inbox.

The only annoying thing is that message that i sent that nobody else has replied to also show up in my "Super Inbox". Mail does not have smart mailbox controls that deal with threads in that way. Oh well.
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Old Jun 14, 2010, 01:10 AM   #16
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I think this is what you're looking for.

thanks so much!!!
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Old Aug 20, 2010, 07:18 PM   #17
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I found a nice solution that doesn't involve smart mailboxes. It produces exactly what you see in gmail, no extra messages.

See instructions on my blog: http://4by12.com/blog/archives/307
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