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Join Date: Apr 2001
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iPhone Sensors and iChat VOIP Integration?
![]() A recently published patent application discovered by MacRumors reveals that Apple has been researching more advanced uses of the built in sensors on the iPhone to predict what the user wants to do. The patent application describes various scenarios in which a mobile phone could automatically change its configuration based on built-in sensors. Apple describes the use of proximity sensors, ambient light detectors, temperature sensors and accelerometers to help determine the current state of the device. Apple has already incorporated basic state detection into the iPhone. When a user holds the current iPhone to their ear, the proximity sensor disables the touch screen to prevent unintentional key presses. Combined with similar sensors in Bluetooth wireless headsets, Apple proposes some additional possibilities: - Accelerometer to determine if device is being picked up - Temperature, ambient light, and proximity sensors to determine if device in a pocket - Proximity to see if the phone is held up to your ear or Bluetooth headset is being worn - Audio detection to see if you start talking into Bluetooth headset vs phone Based on a combination of these situations, the iPhone could change configuration. Examples given include: Turning vibrating ring on when placed in your pocket. Turning off speakerphone when holding the phone to your ear. Routing the call correctly to your wireless headset or your phone depending on which one you are planing on using at that time (based on speaking into, wearing or picking up the appropriate device). One final intriguing possibility also described is using the docking/undocking of the iPhone to trigger certain events. ![]() Mock design from ACU Specifically, Apple describes passing off voice over IP (VOIP) calls from the computer to the phone and back again. With the phone docked, the user could answer the phone using their computer's speaker and microphone, and then automatically pass this call over to the phone when it is removed from the dock. This passing-off of phone calls between the iPhone and iChat was previously depicted in a concept iPhone video (at 14m 15s) by Abilene Christian University. Article Link |
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note: patent application does not list Apple by name, but patent application itself back-references other Apple patents, and inventors are Apple employees responsible for other patent applications assigned to Apple.
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: PA
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Apple-designed VoIP would be beautiful to have on the iPhone and glorious if it were to be passed onto the next gen. Touch. And the other sensing possibilities are pretty exciting.
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: West London, England
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Nice idea, but personally I would rather they started building a teleport.
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Berlin, Germany
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Join Date: May 2003
Location: Saint Augustine, FL
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I'm a bit concerned that a device that tries to anticipate what I want to do will end up getting it wrong often enough for me to be frustrated by it.
However, if the iPhone automatically went into vibrate mode when in a pocket, that would be very nice, as it would (to an extent) reduce the number of cellphone rings I encounter daily. Bee da booo.. da be da booo.. da be da booo... da deee |
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macrumors member
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Boston
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Yeah ok, I switch from my call on iphone to my mac through ichat and then can pick up that call again on my phone... all the while ATT is charging me for my call even though I switched to the mac? no thanks. might as well hang up knowing the person is online and just chat that way.
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Join Date: Sep 2003
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The biggest feature I have wanted on mine is the ability to have the iPhone ring through my external computer speakers when docked. That way I don't miss a call while the iPhone is charging/syncing in my home office and I am down the hall in the kitchen getting dinner ready where I can't hear the normal ring. The extra feature of taking your call through microphone and speakers on the computer is an AWESOME idea.
Plus how cool would it be to pick up your iPhone from the table surface, put it to your ear and it automatically answers the call without having to slide or push anything?
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: washington dc
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This gives me hope that, although there is no front face camera on the new iPhone, perhaps at least we will get iChat.
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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I would love for the phone to wake and unlock magically when I picked it up. But how do you program for the times when you don't want it to turn on?
Seems tricky. I'm still disappointed in the UI when it comes to in-car usage for the iPod app. The buttons need to be much bigger, like the entire left and right side of the screen for next/prev track. Also, it's a pain to have to slide to unlock in order to get to the next track. |
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Join Date: May 2003
Location: Saint Augustine, FL
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I really have no love at all for the iPod in the iPhone, despite Steve claiming it's the best. The lack of clickwheel is infuriating for tracking through a podcast, and the tiny scrubber is too useless. Ratings? difficult. Coverflow? it does the entire collection, vs the playlist, unlike iTunes. That whole thing really needs to be re-worked out. (PS: you don't have to unlock it to skip to the next song. You can 2xClick when it's locked and it'll expose track controls when a song is playing) |
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Washington DC
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It's been clear that Apple has been putting all their effort into just making the phone work at all. Don't get me wrong, they did a great job, but it's obvious that software 2.0 is the version they wanted to have last year, but just couldn't get done in time.
But now that they've achieved that, I think we'll really start to see some amazing things over the next few years. It's kind of like how OSX got faster and more stable for the first few years, but it wasn't until Tiger and Leopard that we started getting really big features like Dashboard, Spotlight, Spaces, and Time Machine. I think we're just now reaching the point where Apple can focus on "big features" for the iPhone. Should be fun! |
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Maryland
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Ohhh but you can
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In the other direction, if you're on a VoIP chat and you pick up the phone, the computer routes the VoIP wirelessly to the phone (not sure if it's via Wifi or 3G). That seems a good idea especially in the US where the mobile owner pays to receive calls anyway, though in Europe and Australia we don't pay anything to receive a call so it could be perceived negatively. |
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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Me likey.
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: New York City
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Aw man - I saw "Sensors" and "iChat," and immediately thought of something else.
![]() Still, these all sounds like really cool ideas -- especially the "sensing in the pocket" one, which would help me a lot. |
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Join Date: Mar 2003
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Some features like docking and bluetooth detection can be useful if accurate. However, too much prediction can be problematic. Examples:
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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a link to location sensors would offer possibilities too, and a link to the calendar - e.g switch to silent when in a meeting
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Join Date: Feb 2008
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Why doesn't Apple require that they're listed on the face of the patent application as assignee. Are you sure that Nicholas Kalayjian is an Apple Inc. inventor? I notice that Mr. Kalayjian has 10 published patents, two of which mention Apple and 2 (seemingly) separate ones published with WIPO. Are we sure he's not just someone hoping to sell his idea to Apple?
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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Yeah...
Routing the call correctly to your wireless headset
Now only if they could fix the Bluetooth stack to provide stereo audio / A2DP - otherwise this feature - no one will use!
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Knoxville, TN (USA)
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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I also love the idea that if I had the iphone in speakerphone mode, and then I put it to my face it would switch back to the handset sepaker.......nice. |
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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- Temperature, ambient light, and proximity sensors to determine if device in a pocket WITH YOU IN THE BACK SEAT OF A CAR WITH YOUR FAVORITE GIRL.
![]() - Accelerometer to determine if device..... you know.... ![]() The iPhone can then automatically call girl's parents, and switch to speaker phone to let said parents listen in on the "conversation".... ![]() Whole new meaning for "Smartphone"....
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Too far from London
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Howzabout a phone that turns blue when I switch to Anglo-Saxon? Or that turns bright pink when I breathe too heavily?
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