Cheaper iPods at MWSF?

MacRumors · Dec 10, 2003, 03:17 AM

AppleTurns posted an interesting tidbit today...

The traditionally satirical site reports that they have a "strong feeling that a modestly-featured and modestly-priced new entry-level iPod is indeed in the offing", and seem to think that MacWorld Expo may be the launching point for the new iPod.

Steve Jobs has previously stated that they are constantly trying to lower the cost of iPod and one unconfirmed rumor pointed to a cheaper 5GB iPod to be released in November... but never came to be.

While AppleTurns denies being a rumor site, they do make the occasional foray into the rumor sandbox, and has been known to be correct on occasion.

bobbyp80521 · Dec 10, 2003, 03:23 AM

that would be nice, i would like to see reduced prices rather than an entry level

Superdrive · Dec 10, 2003, 03:28 AM

How about bigger and cheaper??

Trowaman · Dec 10, 2003, 03:28 AM

YES! IF I don't get one for X-mas . . . . iPods = good

sethypoo · Dec 10, 2003, 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Superdrive
How about bigger and cheaper??

In a perfect world, in a perfect world.

Tuttle · Dec 10, 2003, 03:38 AM

Everyone I know/meet wants an iPod.

Everyone I know/meet knows what an iPod is.

People are always stopping me to take a look at my iPod.

I think my dual G5 is getting jealous.

I have a new 10 gig iPod and I have never filled the thing up. I could easily get by with only 5 gig since setting up playlists in iTunes so easy and downloading is so fast with the Firewire connection.

I think the tremendous brand awareness Apple has with the iPod can overcome the race for bigger internal drives that the other players use for differentiation.

Phillip · Dec 10, 2003, 04:12 AM

can't wait

freddiecable · Dec 10, 2003, 04:27 AM

5 GB iPod for 199 or even 149 USD

but i don't think the difference between 10 GB and 5 GB would justify a 150 USD price difference. But, 199 would be realistic...

MacDuff · Dec 10, 2003, 04:28 AM

New 10 gig iPod in January = $199

Is that too much of a stretch?

hokka · Dec 10, 2003, 04:30 AM

AppleTurns is right about this:

"Let's face it, most of the people willing to shell out at least $299 for a portable music player probably already have one..."

yep! I already have a 40GB iPod, but for me to fork out more for presents would kill me

If this is true - pretty much inevitable when the "elite" market's been satuated - they will need to move down and try to fight the Flash-based players out there - I could see companies such as Creative going out of business when this happens...

iwantanewmac · Dec 10, 2003, 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tuttle
Everyone I know/meet wants an iPod.

Everyone I know/meet knows what an iPod is.

People are always stopping me to take a look at my iPod.

I think my dual G5 is getting jealous.

I have a new 10 gig iPod and I have never filled the thing up. I could easily get by with only 5 gig since setting up playlists in iTunes so easy and downloading is so fast with the Firewire connection.

Sorry for my question, but what the heck has the ease of use of itunes and the fast FW connection to do with the size of the ipod?
you mean because its fast yo umean yo uneed less space???????? uh
My 30 gig is almost full...... Not that Im getting a bigger 1 but....

Toby O Notoby · Dec 10, 2003, 04:51 AM

Exec #1: Hey, let's build a cheaper version of the iPod, we could probably sell millions of them as Christmas presents!

Exec #2: Brilliant! When should we release them?

Exec #3: I was thinking sometime in January.

Tuttle · Dec 10, 2003, 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by iwantanewmac
Sorry for my question, but what the heck has the ease of use of itunes and the fast FW connection to do with the size of the ipod?
you mean because its fast yo umean yo uneed less space???????? uh
My 30 gig is almost full...... Not that Im getting a bigger 1 but....

Do you listen to 30 gig of music everyday? Does anyone?

Sounds like you just dump your entire collection of music to your iPod like I used to.

I have a iPod specific smart playlist that I occasionally change/update for stuff I actually listen to on my iPod. I was worried when I ordered my iPod that the ten gig model was going to be too small until I learned how to properly use iTunes.

A lot of the bigger drive is better mentality comes from the peecee world where people have to use their incredibly slow USB connection to download their music and need a player as big as their entire library to avoid having to wait for for such a slow process.

alset · 05:03 AM

I read AppleTurns religiously. AppleTurns has been my daily does for four years (even when they failed to update for moths at a time). I love them to death, but I'd have to say that this story is blown FAR out of proportion. They don't site any source (other than a failed MR report). It's speculation.

Anyone who gives this any credit isn't using their head.

Dan

edit: As for storage space, I have 35 GB of tunes in my library and I want to access them all at any time. Maybe you aren't picky, but if I don't have an album on my iPod I can guarantee that I will want to play it.

CmdrLaForge · Dec 10, 2003, 05:03 AM

A cheaper iPod would really be great. If the price comes down to $150 I could really justify the purchase.

I really love this little toy.

Trimix · Dec 10, 2003, 05:13 AM

I am not sure what the fascination would be on the lower end.
I have moved 836 songs from CD to my i-mac, that is 5.05 gig.
This represents the songs i like on 1/3 of my CD collection. Which means at this rate I would need at least 15gig.
There is probably a song or two a week I discover, and enjoy enough to keep. If I wish my song collection with me I feel even 35 or 40 gig wont cut it.
It has nothing to do with size, but all with convenience. If it comes down to it, we are all hunters and gatherers, the i-pod satisfies this neanderthal instinct

iwantanewmac · Dec 10, 2003, 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tuttle
Do you listen to 30 gig of music everyday? Does anyone?

Sounds like you just dump your entire collection of music to your iPod like I used to.

Actually yes.
I do want to carry most of my music with me. I don't want to go thru the hassle of making special playlists etc. etc.
I don't have a lot of time so.
The more the better.

arn · Dec 10, 2003, 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by alset
I read AppleTurns religiously. AppleTurns has been my daily does for four years (even when they failed to update for moths at a time). I love them to death, but I'd have to say that this story is blown FAR out of proportion. They don't site any source (other than a failed MR report). It's speculation.

Anyone who gives this any credit isn't using their head.

You gotta read between the lines.

arn

MattG · Dec 10, 2003, 06:09 AM

This would be great. There are several people who I've shown my iPod to who would love to get one, but can't fathom spending $300+ on one.

A < $200 iPod would be a good thing.

Vroem · Dec 10, 2003, 06:35 AM

Which of the iPod's competitors are actually real hard disks (mass storage devices)? I know that you can even boot Mac OS from an iPod, but is that passible with other MP3 players?

Creative says that apple is lying about having the first "hard drive music player" but their own player is NOT a hard drive!

rdowns · Dec 10, 2003, 06:40 AM

I'm holding out upgrading my iPod until they put a G5 in it. I also read a dual G5 is possible.

mechamac · Dec 10, 2003, 07:06 AM

While AT rarely dips into rumor mongering territory, I can't think of a time in recent years when they were wrong - when conflicting rumor reports fly the AT spin has always been correct.

Very, VERY, interesting.

Maybe I'll be getting my first iPod soon...

TomSmithMacEd · Dec 10, 2003, 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Toby O Notoby
Exec #1: Hey, let's build a cheaper version of the iPod, we could probably sell millions of them as Christmas presents!

Exec #2: Brilliant! When should we release them?

Exec #3: I was thinking sometime in January.

Yeah, my parents won't get me one because they think they are too exensive

. But I don't know if 5gb would be big enough for me seeming my music collection is at 7gb+ and growing rapidly, but beggers cannot be choosers I guess.

orion123 · Dec 10, 2003, 07:49 AM

When AtAT posts a rumor in the way that they did: "strong feeling" etc. you know that something is up. They post about two "self-started" rumors per year and I can't remember when they were wrong.

They must have a real high-up trusted source in Apple who they treat well and don't risk his/her job like the other rumors sites often do.

the_mole1314 · Dec 10, 2003, 08:25 AM

What have I been saying, eh? I believe that it's late and last time I talked to my source he said around Turky Day. Oh well, can't wait for this new 'pod to come out!

Dec 10, 2003, 04:28 AM	#9
MacDuff macrumors regular Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: San Francisco	New 10 gig iPod in January = $199 Is that too much of a stretch? __________________ www.bhilldesign.com

Dec 10, 2003, 04:30 AM	#10
hokka macrumors regular Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sydney	Then I could get a few for family and friends (and bribes) AppleTurns is right about this: "Let's face it, most of the people willing to shell out at least $299 for a portable music player probably already have one..." yep! I already have a 40GB iPod, but for me to fork out more for presents would kill me If this is true - pretty much inevitable when the "elite" market's been satuated - they will need to move down and try to fight the Flash-based players out there - I could see companies such as Creative going out of business when this happens...

Dec 10, 2003, 04:55 AM	#14
alset macrumors 65816 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: East Bay, CA	I read AppleTurns religiously. AppleTurns has been my daily does for four years (even when they failed to update for moths at a time). I love them to death, but I'd have to say that this story is blown FAR out of proportion. They don't site any source (other than a failed MR report). It's speculation. Anyone who gives this any credit isn't using their head. Dan edit: As for storage space, I have 35 GB of tunes in my library and I want to access them all at any time. Maybe you aren't picky, but if I don't have an album on my iPod I can guarantee that I will want to play it. __________________ alsetmusic.com standing on the shoulders of giants.... Last edited by alset : Dec 10, 2003 at 05:03 AM.

Dec 10, 2003, 05:03 AM	#15
CmdrLaForge macrumors 68000 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: around the world	Would be great A cheaper iPod would really be great. If the price comes down to $150 I could really justify the purchase. I really love this little toy. __________________ Macbook Pro 17" 2.8 GHz ; Cinema Display 23"; iPhone 3G 16GB; TimeCapsule Final Cut Pro 2; Aperture 2

Dec 10, 2003, 07:06 AM	#22
mechamac macrumors regular Join Date: Aug 2003	VERY interesting While AT rarely dips into rumor mongering territory, I can't think of a time in recent years when they were wrong - when conflicting rumor reports fly the AT spin has always been correct. Very, VERY, interesting. Maybe I'll be getting my first iPod soon...

Dec 10, 2003, 03:17 AM	#1
MacRumors macrumors bot Join Date: Apr 2001	Cheaper iPods at MWSF? AppleTurns posted an interesting tidbit today... The traditionally satirical site reports that they have a "strong feeling that a modestly-featured and modestly-priced new entry-level iPod is indeed in the offing", and seem to think that MacWorld Expo may be the launching point for the new iPod. Steve Jobs has previously stated that they are constantly trying to lower the cost of iPod and one unconfirmed rumor pointed to a cheaper 5GB iPod to be released in November... but never came to be. While AppleTurns denies being a rumor site, they do make the occasional foray into the rumor sandbox, and has been known to be correct on occasion.

Dec 10, 2003, 03:23 AM	#2
bobbyp80521 macrumors newbie Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: co	i hope that would be nice, i would like to see reduced prices rather than an entry level

Dec 10, 2003, 03:28 AM	#3
Superdrive macrumors 6502a Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Minneapolis, MN	How about bigger and cheaper??

Dec 10, 2003, 03:28 AM	#4
Trowaman macrumors 6502a Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CD: TX-22	YES! IF I don't get one for X-mas . . . . iPods = good

Dec 10, 2003, 03:38 AM	#6
Tuttle macrumors member Join Date: Sep 2003	Everyone I know/meet wants an iPod. Everyone I know/meet knows what an iPod is. People are always stopping me to take a look at my iPod. I think my dual G5 is getting jealous. I have a new 10 gig iPod and I have never filled the thing up. I could easily get by with only 5 gig since setting up playlists in iTunes so easy and downloading is so fast with the Firewire connection. I think the tremendous brand awareness Apple has with the iPod can overcome the race for bigger internal drives that the other players use for differentiation.

Dec 10, 2003, 04:12 AM	#7
Phillip macrumors member Join Date: Aug 2003	can't wait

Dec 10, 2003, 04:27 AM	#8
freddiecable macrumors 6502 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sweden	5 GB iPod for 199 or even 149 USD but i don't think the difference between 10 GB and 5 GB would justify a 150 USD price difference. But, 199 would be realistic...

Dec 10, 2003, 04:51 AM	#12
Toby O Notoby macrumors newbie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Singapore	Exec #1: Hey, let's build a cheaper version of the iPod, we could probably sell millions of them as Christmas presents! Exec #2: Brilliant! When should we release them? Exec #3: I was thinking sometime in January.

Dec 10, 2003, 05:13 AM	#16
Trimix macrumors regular Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Switzerland	I am not sure what the fascination would be on the lower end. I have moved 836 songs from CD to my i-mac, that is 5.05 gig. This represents the songs i like on 1/3 of my CD collection. Which means at this rate I would need at least 15gig. There is probably a song or two a week I discover, and enjoy enough to keep. If I wish my song collection with me I feel even 35 or 40 gig wont cut it. It has nothing to do with size, but all with convenience. If it comes down to it, we are all hunters and gatherers, the i-pod satisfies this neanderthal instinct

Dec 10, 2003, 06:09 AM	#19
MattG macrumors 68030 Join Date: May 2003	This would be great. There are several people who I've shown my iPod to who would love to get one, but can't fathom spending $300+ on one. A < $200 iPod would be a good thing.

Dec 10, 2003, 06:35 AM	#20
Vroem macrumors member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Brussels, Belgium, Europe	Which of the iPod's competitors are actually real hard disks (mass storage devices)? I know that you can even boot Mac OS from an iPod, but is that passible with other MP3 players? Creative says that apple is lying about having the first "hard drive music player" but their own player is NOT a hard drive!

Dec 10, 2003, 06:40 AM	#21
rdowns macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Jul 2003	I'm holding out upgrading my iPod until they put a G5 in it. I also read a dual G5 is possible.

Dec 10, 2003, 07:49 AM	#24
orion123 macrumors member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Brooklyn	When AtAT posts a rumor in the way that they did: "strong feeling" etc. you know that something is up. They post about two "self-started" rumors per year and I can't remember when they were wrong. They must have a real high-up trusted source in Apple who they treat well and don't risk his/her job like the other rumors sites often do.

Dec 10, 2003, 08:25 AM	#25
the_mole1314 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Dayton, OH	What have I been saying, eh? I believe that it's late and last time I talked to my source he said around Turky Day. Oh well, can't wait for this new 'pod to come out! __________________ 13" MacBook Pro 2.53GHz (base model) iPod touch, nano, shuffle, iPod 3gen

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