New iMacs in Early 2004?

MacRumors · 06:43 AM

DigiTimes posts a news report claiming that an upcoming iMac revision will incorporate a Magnesium-Alloy case (chassis?)-- as opposed to a Stainless Steel and Zinc Alloy case that the current LCD iMac uses. This mostly appears to be a cost-cutting move, along with increased use of plastic parts. Whether this will cause a cosmetic change in the iMac's case is unclear based on the article.

Apple's iMac has recently been rumored to see a major revision in early 2004, with questions of a return of the Cube form-factor in later reports

The article also notes:

Quote:

Apple in September suspended a plan to integrate a Tablet PC and DeskNote into a new line of products, dubbed the “New New iMac,” due to cost considerations.

Presumably this refers to Digitimes' previous claims that Apple was planning to launch a wireless display for a desktop system in early 2004. It appears that this project has been put on hold due to cost considerations -- at least according to this report. Assuming such a project existed, it may be the fuel for the many Apple Tablet rumors that have been recently circulating. Of note, however, Digitimes reports have been of questionable accuracy in the past.

arn · 06:42 AM

Honestly, this article is hard to follow.

I don't know what to make of the TabletPC/Desknote thing.

In case anyone else is confused from the article:

iMac = CRT iMac
New iMac = LCD iMac
New New iMac = This Tablet/iMac thing

arn

Sabenth · Dec 10, 2003, 05:40 AM

and in the bin this goes

Oirectine · Dec 10, 2003, 05:49 AM

That's just... weird!

Sun Baked · Dec 10, 2003, 06:00 AM

I thought the metal boxes hidden behind the fancy plastic always looked more like galvanized sheet metal than a fancy alloy to me.

Of course that spiffy chunk of stainless steel poking out the iMacs case means ...

rdowns · Dec 10, 2003, 06:32 AM

Just slap a G5 in this puppy so I can get a new computer already. What a sweet computer that would be with a 20" LCD. Saw one at the Apple Store last week and it is a thing of beauty.

eric67 · Dec 10, 2003, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rdowns
Just slap a G5 in this puppy so I can get a new computer already. What a sweet computer that would be with a 20" LCD. Saw one at the Apple Store last week and it is a thing of beauty.

this is what the new iMac is going to be : a G5 iMac,
exactly the same way that recently the iBook became iBook G4.

MacMarino · Dec 10, 2003, 07:16 AM

So i was thinking when i saw the tablet being mentioned and how people are always saying they want an iMac with a detachable screen. How about a screen that clips in and out of a a kind of cradle on the metal arm, but can be used as a tablet PC when disconnected from the main body...and when you reconnect the 2 parts everything just syncs together. Could it work?

MacMarino

Blackcat · Dec 10, 2003, 07:27 AM

I think often these Asian reports get confused, or as with all journalism, over exagerated.

My guess is we will see a SE iMac, maybe in Alu for $lots and a mini-Tablet.

To me, a removable screen has no real benefit as it's passive/dumb, but a full tablet running X has uses and can run ARD which has the client built into Panther.

Let's see what ThinkSecret says...

TomSmithMacEd · Dec 10, 2003, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MacMarino
So i was thinking when i saw the tablet being mentioned and how people are always saying they want an iMac with a detachable screen. How about a screen that clips in and out of a a kind of cradle on the metal arm, but can be used as a tablet PC when disconnected from the main body...and when you reconnect the 2 parts everything just syncs together. Could it work?

MacMarino

If Apple could pull this off it would be revolutionary.

Nik_Doof · Dec 10, 2003, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TomSmithMacEd
If Apple could pull this off it would be revolutionary.

Many people have tried and failed with this idea, yes if apple could pull it off then you will have every major PC manfaturer scrabbling to keep up.

I see no REAL benefit to this, but hey its a nice feature

Unclezeppy · Dec 10, 2003, 08:08 AM

Since they are starting to produce the iMac here in China I presume the price will be cheaper at least. It's supposed to be the new "all plastic?!" version, what ever that means. It might be just a different model targeting the local schools and not for export.

JW Pepper · Dec 10, 2003, 08:21 AM

I could believe a swivel top lap top with a touch sensitive screen that would make perfect sense, if a little expensive, but it make no sense to do this to an iMac.

As far as a change in design I believe that what they have said is entirely reasonable. Apple would always want to try to reduce costs, they have too. We all know a change is coming to accommodate the G5, it is just a matter of when. Given the recent introduction of he 20" version I find it hard to believe that the new model will debut in January.

Dont Hurt Me · Dec 10, 2003, 08:24 AM

i found the article interesting but notice the comment sales are lackluster because of the price. i disagree sales are lackluster because it has the never advancing G4 and then you cant keep the monitor! Seems like know one ever wants to mention the slow G4 in recent articles. they dont even compare G4 to to the new AMDs or Intel why? because G4 had fallen so so far back. its pathetic.

the_mole1314 · Dec 10, 2003, 08:30 AM

Frankly, the amount of money it would take to produce a screen that would update fast enough wirelessly is insane. Forget 802.11b, ou need 802.11g or even a.

eric67 · Dec 10, 2003, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TomSmithMacEd
If Apple could pull this off it would be revolutionary.

YES, but it is faisable

the screen just need to contain the battery, and to be connected via Airport to the dock station; there is nothing unrealistic here.
the only question is more : is Apple going to do it seeing how bad is the Tablet Pc market!!!????
less than 25% of the expected sale volume!!!!!

I think that to remain an iMac, it as to remain a block, but indded the screen could be detacjed from the dock/station/core.

Imagine, at home you have enough staying at the desk, you can go on the sofa, or in the bed, watch a movie or check your email....
brilliant. Apple let's do it, BUT put a G5 in it, otherwise it will be immediately outdated, even if the concept is brilliant.

MorganX · Dec 10, 2003, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TomSmithMacEd
If Apple could pull this off it would be revolutionary.

This is already done in TabletPC/Notebook form factor. There is no syncing because the processor is in the tablet.

I see no benefit to this in a desktop form factor because you probably want a more sizeable screen in a desktop. You wouldn't want to be lugging it around as a tablet.

I do see this as a possible evolutionary step for Apple's laptop line.

b_riggs · Dec 10, 2003, 08:34 AM

I think a G5 iMac would be a great move for Apple. Many people have expressed the opinion that the powerbook needs to be next with G5s but I disagree. Apple is, and should be, about making money and gaining market share. A G5 powerbook will not be feasible for another 8 months or so. But it seems quite feasible for the iMac so why not do it now? it should sell very well, make money and gain some market share too.

geerlingguy · Dec 10, 2003, 08:41 AM

Has anyone touched the screens on the 20" or 17" iMac??? Those things are already monstrous, without a wireless card, processor, hard drive, RAM, etc. Unless Apple finds a way to make the screens with about 15 lbs. less extra weight in them before doing a tablet, they can't.

But that doesn't stop us from speculating

Dont Hurt Me · Dec 10, 2003, 08:42 AM

I noticed the current imac is selling only at 1/3 of the original crt imac. i would like a new aluminum chassis thats is wrapped in see through colored plastic so you can gander at the G5. very interesting that they put a clear plastic cover on the G5 machines so you can admire the interior. i bet see through will be coming back to the imac!

srobert · Dec 10, 2003, 08:44 AM

Is it just me or is the top of the line iMac slowly moving away from my "consumer" type budget?

Let's hope that cheaper materials will also result as a price drop for the consumer and not only a bigger margin of profit for the manufacturer.

Sure G5 would be nice even though it still looks like it's a little soon but since I can't afford a G5 tower WITHOUT the LCD I don't see how I'll be able to affoard a G5 iMac WITH an integrated LCD.

I guess I'll have to swith to the even more budget eMac category. Too bad, I really love the way the iMac looks. And where is my unexpensive headless mac? ^_^

Vanilla · Dec 10, 2003, 08:45 AM

I personally think this is a classic rumour site shenanigan…

Create an exciting rumour to help generate traffic to the website
Run with it
When it starts to get stale kill it with talk of “design issues”, “cost issues” etc.
Replace with new rumour to help generate traffic to the website
Run with it
When it starts to get stale……

All the while Apple themselves say not a word and continue on their [unknown] development schedule.

Apologies for the cynicism, I’ll get me coat
ciao
Vanilla

Photorun · Dec 10, 2003, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rdowns
Just slap a G5 in this puppy so I can get a new computer already. What a sweet computer that would be with a 20" LCD. Saw one at the Apple Store last week and it is a thing of beauty.

Dare to dream. That would be sweet but only IF they didn't change the pricing, actually if they could pull the pricing to just under two grand ($1999). It seems like Apple had almost figured out the consumer masses when the first iMac came out, even though it too was a little over what consumers wanted to spend. then when the iMac started getting close to the (magical) grand sweet spot you couldn't practically spit in someone's office/house without it landing on an iMac. I personally knew a few companies in Atlanta who bought them because they "looked cool" but also made good machines for certain levels of workers... mind you, these companies were peecee f***wad mentality types previous to this.

Finally Apple was gaining market share, which regardless of what anyone says thinking they're a niche company.. BS!!! Niches shrink, Apple needs to expand their market, end of discussion not open for debate! How do you do that? Sell more units! How do you sell more units? Make 'em affordable. How do you do that? How the heck do I know?!? But finding a way to build super cool machines with parts that may cut corners is one way, don't have to be like Dull who has the cheapest, most piece of crap computers out there and are gaining the world domination pretty much but undercutting everyone, but one does need to price and price well.

$2199 for a consumer machine is laughable. BUT some consumer and prosumers would give it a look if it ducked just under the four digit rollover(s).

Trimix · Dec 10, 2003, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rdowns
Just slap a G5 in this puppy so I can get a new computer already. What a sweet computer that would be with a 20" LCD. Saw one at the Apple Store last week and it is a thing of beauty.

agreed

ITR 81 · Dec 10, 2003, 09:15 AM

Good move if they can reduce eMac costs then they can reduce the pricing to say around $500 bucks.

I figure before Apple upgrades the iMac to a G5 platform we will see atleast one more speed bump from the G4 line up.

Dec 10, 2003, 05:38 AM	#2
arn macrumors god Join Date: Apr 2001	Honestly, this article is hard to follow. I don't know what to make of the TabletPC/Desknote thing. In case anyone else is confused from the article: iMac = CRT iMac New iMac = LCD iMac New New iMac = This Tablet/iMac thing arn Last edited by arn : Dec 10, 2003 at 06:42 AM.

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MacMarino macrumors member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Tokyo, Japan	2-in-1 So i was thinking when i saw the tablet being mentioned and how people are always saying they want an iMac with a detachable screen. How about a screen that clips in and out of a a kind of cradle on the metal arm, but can be used as a tablet PC when disconnected from the main body...and when you reconnect the 2 parts everything just syncs together. Could it work? MacMarino __________________ Smile and show the world that the best things in life are free!

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Blackcat macrumors regular Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Cirencester, UK	confused... I think often these Asian reports get confused, or as with all journalism, over exagerated. My guess is we will see a SE iMac, maybe in Alu for $lots and a mini-Tablet. To me, a removable screen has no real benefit as it's passive/dumb, but a full tablet running X has uses and can run ARD which has the client built into Panther. Let's see what ThinkSecret says...

Dec 10, 2003, 05:49 AM	#4
Oirectine macrumors regular Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wuxi, China	That's just... weird!

Dec 10, 2003, 06:32 AM	#6
rdowns macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Jul 2003	Just slap a G5 in this puppy so I can get a new computer already. What a sweet computer that would be with a 20" LCD. Saw one at the Apple Store last week and it is a thing of beauty.

Dec 10, 2003, 08:08 AM	#12
Unclezeppy macrumors newbie Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Shanghai China	Since they are starting to produce the iMac here in China I presume the price will be cheaper at least. It's supposed to be the new "all plastic?!" version, what ever that means. It might be just a different model targeting the local schools and not for export.

Dec 10, 2003, 08:21 AM	#13
JW Pepper macrumors regular Join Date: Jul 2002	I could believe a swivel top lap top with a touch sensitive screen that would make perfect sense, if a little expensive, but it make no sense to do this to an iMac. As far as a change in design I believe that what they have said is entirely reasonable. Apple would always want to try to reduce costs, they have too. We all know a change is coming to accommodate the G5, it is just a matter of when. Given the recent introduction of he 20" version I find it hard to believe that the new model will debut in January. __________________ 355/113 is the best aproximation of π

Dec 10, 2003, 08:24 AM	#14
Dont Hurt Me macrumors 601 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Yahooville S.C.	i found the article interesting but notice the comment sales are lackluster because of the price. i disagree sales are lackluster because it has the never advancing G4 and then you cant keep the monitor! Seems like know one ever wants to mention the slow G4 in recent articles. they dont even compare G4 to to the new AMDs or Intel why? because G4 had fallen so so far back. its pathetic. __________________ Those that give up Liberty to have temporary Security deserve Neither......Benjamin Franklin.

Dec 10, 2003, 08:30 AM	#15
the_mole1314 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Dayton, OH	Frankly, the amount of money it would take to produce a screen that would update fast enough wirelessly is insane. Forget 802.11b, ou need 802.11g or even a. __________________ 13" MacBook Pro 2.53GHz (base model) iPod touch, nano, shuffle, iPod 3gen

Dec 10, 2003, 08:34 AM	#18
b_riggs macrumors newbie Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: North Carolina	new iMac I think a G5 iMac would be a great move for Apple. Many people have expressed the opinion that the powerbook needs to be next with G5s but I disagree. Apple is, and should be, about making money and gaining market share. A G5 powerbook will not be feasible for another 8 months or so. But it seems quite feasible for the iMac so why not do it now? it should sell very well, make money and gain some market share too.

Dec 10, 2003, 08:41 AM	#19
geerlingguy macrumors 6502 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Midwest, USA	Has anyone touched the screens on the 20" or 17" iMac??? Those things are already monstrous, without a wireless card, processor, hard drive, RAM, etc. Unless Apple finds a way to make the screens with about 15 lbs. less extra weight in them before doing a tablet, they can't. But that doesn't stop us from speculating __________________ Midwestern Mac, LLC \| Life is a Prayer.com 2.8 iMac 24" + 2.0 Aluminum MacBook + 2 TB + iPhone 3G + D90 + D40 + Xbox 360 + Much much more

Dec 10, 2003, 08:42 AM	#20
Dont Hurt Me macrumors 601 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Yahooville S.C.	I noticed the current imac is selling only at 1/3 of the original crt imac. i would like a new aluminum chassis thats is wrapped in see through colored plastic so you can gander at the G5. very interesting that they put a clear plastic cover on the G5 machines so you can admire the interior. i bet see through will be coming back to the imac! __________________ Those that give up Liberty to have temporary Security deserve Neither......Benjamin Franklin.

Dec 10, 2003, 08:44 AM	#21
srobert macrumors 68020 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Montreal, Canada	Is it just me or is the top of the line iMac slowly moving away from my "consumer" type budget? Let's hope that cheaper materials will also result as a price drop for the consumer and not only a bigger margin of profit for the manufacturer. Sure G5 would be nice even though it still looks like it's a little soon but since I can't afford a G5 tower WITHOUT the LCD I don't see how I'll be able to affoard a G5 iMac WITH an integrated LCD. I guess I'll have to swith to the even more budget eMac category. Too bad, I really love the way the iMac looks. And where is my unexpensive headless mac? ^_^ __________________ Zapp: The alien mothership is in orbit here. If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.

Dec 10, 2003, 08:45 AM	#22
Vanilla macrumors 6502a Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: London, UK	I personally think this is a classic rumour site shenanigan… Create an exciting rumour to help generate traffic to the website Run with it When it starts to get stale kill it with talk of “design issues”, “cost issues” etc. Replace with new rumour to help generate traffic to the website Run with it When it starts to get stale…… All the while Apple themselves say not a word and continue on their [unknown] development schedule. Apologies for the cynicism, I’ll get me coat ciao Vanilla

Dec 10, 2003, 09:15 AM	#25
ITR 81 macrumors 65816 Join Date: Oct 2003	Good move if they can reduce eMac costs then they can reduce the pricing to say around $500 bucks. I figure before Apple upgrades the iMac to a G5 platform we will see atleast one more speed bump from the G4 line up.

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