Starting New Service on Original iPhone? Prices Stay the Same.

MacRumors · Jul 2, 2008, 01:56 AM

Tidbits confirms what most people expected, but its nice to get confirmation from AT&T.

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The current 2G iPhone plans will continue to be available for people who want to start up new service plans with someone's old phone.

If you get an original iPhone (in sale, trade, or hand-me down) and decide to initiate new mobile phone service with AT&T, you will be charged the same rates as before. This means Unlimited Data and 200 SMS messages are still only $20/month for those using an original iPhone. The price and terms changed with the introduction of the iPhone 3G. iPhone 3G owners pay $30/month for unlimited 3G data and no SMS messages are included in that plan.

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greenyboy411 · Jul 2, 2008, 02:08 AM

nice job ripping off the question i JUST FREAKIN ASKED on the forums
its cool though
its good for people to know

tho · Jul 2, 2008, 02:09 AM

finally an answer. thanks!

kjs862 · Jul 2, 2008, 02:14 AM

Now all I need to do is find who's going to get my old iPhone.

JGar · Jul 2, 2008, 02:58 AM

Will they have to sign a 2 year contract?

iDoc with a "D" · Jul 2, 2008, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by JGar

Will they have to sign a 2 year contract?

no, not like the 3g model cause for the original iphone users payed retail value with no subsidies. You only need the data package.

darwen · Jul 2, 2008, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by iDoc with a "D"

no, not like the 3g model cause for the original iphone users payed retail value with no subsidies. You only need the data package.

Actually, that is false. Anytime you activate a new SIM is sign's up a new 2-year contract. Unless they are already an AT&T customer with a working SIM (and even then they can run into some issues) they will need a contract to use the phone or pay a premium for pay-as-you-go minutes.

Niiro13 · Jul 2, 2008, 04:22 AM

Finally...most people kept saying it upgrades to the newer plan...psh...yeah right.

dizastor · Jul 2, 2008, 05:16 AM

more expensive monthly... with no text messages...

guess I'm keeping my origiphone

Chupa Chupa · Jul 2, 2008, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JGar

Will they have to sign a 2 year contract?

YES, you have to sign a new contract UNLESS you are just taking over someone elses. Otherwise all new lines of service require a contract.

BrownManUPS · Jul 2, 2008, 06:28 AM

I activated my hand-me-down iPhone after WWDC, and I can confirm this announcement as well.

I guess this means that if you get an iPhone 3G, you would have to pay for 3G data as well, rather than just sticking with 2G. I think I am definitely keeping my old iPhone and maybe will buy a new one some other day.

barddzen · 08:25 AM

Ok, so if I'm not eligible for an upgrade (as an existing 3G customer), have already been paying for unlimited SMS (on 2 RAZR's) I now have to buy the phone at regular price and have to pay $30 for data and get no SMS?

The screwy thing is I would be more than willing to pay the increased monthly to get the $199 price point, but not both.

...and the confusion and PO'd masses continue...

After wading through the miles of replies like this, I fail to believe that Jobs is blindly sitting in his ivory tower without pondering: WTF?

iMosaic · Jul 2, 2008, 08:26 AM

I'd like to know if I get the iPhone 3G and hold on to my first iPhone does the original get locked or can I use it as an iPod without phone service?

GreenFreaK · Jul 2, 2008, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by iMosaic

I'd like to know if I get the iPhone 3G and hold on to my first iPhone does the original get locked or can I use it as an iPod without phone service?

You'll most likely be able to use all functionality, except for the phone part. It'll just say 'Invalid SIM" or "No Service" and that's it. If you start up your phone without the SIM inside, it will work for everything else but the phone. I just tested

IOIIOOO · Jul 2, 2008, 09:45 AM

What about for users who have a Family Plan with one legacy iPhone and one 3G iPhone?

From the looks of AT&Ts new pricing, we'll end up paying $20 extra on the family plan, which would be a $10 addon for both.

My wife accidentally broke her iPhone this week, and Apple wants $200 to replace it. We had thought about getting the 3G instead, but it looks like the 3G will up our cell bill by $50 ($20 more for the family plan, and $30 more for texting on the family plan). At that pricing, replacing the old phone will pay for itself in 4 months.

Kwill · Jul 2, 2008, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by IOIIOOO

What about for users who have a Family Plan with one legacy iPhone and one 3G iPhone?

From the looks of AT&Ts new pricing, we'll end up paying $20 extra on the family plan, which would be a $10 addon for both.

My wife accidentally broke her iPhone this week, and Apple wants $200 to replace it. We had thought about getting the 3G instead, but it looks like the 3G will up our cell bill by $50 ($20 more for the family plan, and $30 more for texting on the family plan). At that pricing, replacing the old phone will pay for itself in 4 months.

AT&T usually separates charges for each phone. I have a Family Plan for an iPhone and Samsung. The latter does not have the $20 data plan. Check with AT&T before jumping to conclusions.

IOIIOOO · Jul 2, 2008, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Kwill

AT&T usually separates charges for each phone. I have a Family Plan for an iPhone and Samsung. The latter does not have the $20 data plan. Check with AT&T before jumping to conclusions.

I'm just going by what AT&T says on http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-pho...phone-info.jsp - where before they split out the iPhone charges, now they have the Family Plan as including two phones. Plus they show the only text option for the Family Plan as $30 unlimited. So even if they did charge less for the old iPhone, it would still be $40 per month more.

Kwill · Jul 2, 2008, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by IOIIOOO

I'm just going by what AT&T says on http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-pho...phone-info.jsp - where before they split out the iPhone charges, now they have the Family Plan as including two phones. Plus they show the only text option for the Family Plan as $30 unlimited. So even if they did charge less for the old iPhone, it would still be $40 per month more.

But that is a Family Plan for two 3G iPhones. Similarly, the prior Family Plan (which is still offered) for 2G iPhones quoted the price with two of the same phones. As I said, the non-iPhone was discounted when the non-mandatory data option was removed.

minik · Jul 2, 2008, 04:38 PM

That's good to hear. I feel like many people are interested to get the original iPhone.

Jul 2, 2008, 02:14 AM	#4
kjs862 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Long Island	Now all I need to do is find who's going to get my old iPhone. __________________ Power Mac G5 Dual 2.0Ghz (1 Gen), 6.5GB Ram, X800XT, Mac OS X (10.5.8)

Jul 2, 2008, 05:16 AM	#9
dizastor macrumors 6502a Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Los Angeles	more expensive monthly... with no text messages... guess I'm keeping my origiphone __________________ ejc on Twitter

Jul 2, 2008, 06:28 AM	#11
BrownManUPS macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Carmel, Indiana	I activated my hand-me-down iPhone after WWDC, and I can confirm this announcement as well. I guess this means that if you get an iPhone 3G, you would have to pay for 3G data as well, rather than just sticking with 2G. I think I am definitely keeping my old iPhone and maybe will buy a new one some other day. __________________ Switched: May 29th 2007 Macbook \| Unibody CE \| 2.0 GHz \| 4GB RAM iPhone 3G(S) 16GB MR Marketplace Bazaar \| Twitter \| Blog

Jul 2, 2008, 08:24 AM	#12
barddzen macrumors newbie Join Date: May 2006 Location: Billerica, MA	Non-Sub 3G phone plan is horrible Ok, so if I'm not eligible for an upgrade (as an existing 3G customer), have already been paying for unlimited SMS (on 2 RAZR's) I now have to buy the phone at regular price and have to pay $30 for data and get no SMS? The screwy thing is I would be more than willing to pay the increased monthly to get the $199 price point, but not both. ...and the confusion and PO'd masses continue... After wading through the miles of replies like this, I fail to believe that Jobs is blindly sitting in his ivory tower without pondering: WTF? Last edited by barddzen : Jul 2, 2008 at 08:25 AM. Reason: More rants...

Jul 2, 2008, 08:26 AM	#13
iMosaic macrumors member Join Date: Apr 2007	Old phone bricked? I'd like to know if I get the iPhone 3G and hold on to my first iPhone does the original get locked or can I use it as an iPod without phone service? __________________ Macbook Air 1.6/120 Still Rocks Macbook Pro 2.53 Unibody iPhone 3G 16gb, iPod Touch 8gb

Jul 2, 2008, 02:08 AM	#2
greenyboy411 macrumors newbie Join Date: Sep 2007	nice job ripping off the question i JUST FREAKIN ASKED on the forums its cool though its good for people to know

Jul 2, 2008, 02:09 AM	#3
tho macrumors newbie Join Date: Jun 2007	finally an answer. thanks!

Jul 2, 2008, 02:58 AM	#5
JGar macrumors newbie Join Date: Jul 2008	Will they have to sign a 2 year contract?

Jul 2, 2008, 04:22 AM	#8
Niiro13 macrumors 68000 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Illinois	Finally...most people kept saying it upgrades to the newer plan...psh...yeah right.

Jul 2, 2008, 09:45 AM	#15
IOIIOOO macrumors newbie Join Date: Jul 2007	What about for users who have a Family Plan with one legacy iPhone and one 3G iPhone? From the looks of AT&Ts new pricing, we'll end up paying $20 extra on the family plan, which would be a $10 addon for both. My wife accidentally broke her iPhone this week, and Apple wants $200 to replace it. We had thought about getting the 3G instead, but it looks like the 3G will up our cell bill by $50 ($20 more for the family plan, and $30 more for texting on the family plan). At that pricing, replacing the old phone will pay for itself in 4 months.

Jul 2, 2008, 04:38 PM	#19
minik macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bellevue, WA	That's good to hear. I feel like many people are interested to get the original iPhone. __________________ Flickr, facebook. twitter.

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