Next Version Of Flash Player To See Performance Leap

MacRumors · 04:45 PM

Adobe released Flash Player 10 beta 2 via its Adobe Labs website this week. According to one of its developers, the new mac version promises to bring up to 3 times the performance for certain operations.

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If you have followed GUIMark at all you will notice that this version of the player runs this benchmark substantially better on OSX than any previous Flash Player version. It should be up to 3 times faster.

In a separate posting written before the release, he points out one text animation that achieved 8.5 frames per second (fps) before the optimization and then 28 fps afterwards in Safari.

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Lastly I want to mention that the Flash Player is optimized for both x86 and PPC. It always has been. But these kind of benchmarks are really useful for us to identify platform specific bottlenecks like in this case.

There is no firm timeline for Flash Player 10's release, however the developer indicates that development is beginning to wrap up. Flash Player 10 will add a host of new features including some GPU-based processing (similar to Core Image).

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thecritix · Jul 4, 2008, 02:21 PM

is flash on the iphone now?

Gonna buy 3g, just wondered cause lots of fuss was made.

mkrishnan · Jul 4, 2008, 02:22 PM

If they can really deliver Windows Flash - like speeds on OS X, that would be about time wonderful. I hope they deliver the same for Linux soon, as well....

Flynntoo · Jul 4, 2008, 02:32 PM

awesome!! faster ads in my face

gcmexico · Jul 4, 2008, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by thecritix

is flash on the iphone now?

Gonna buy 3g, just wondered cause lots of fuss was made.

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I was wondering the same thing...no one has mentioned flash on the 3g iphone

TuffLuffJimmy · Jul 4, 2008, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by gcmexico

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I was wondering the same thing...no one has mentioned flash on the 3g iphone

They have mentioned it many times, actually. It's not coming to the iPhone. End of story.

morespce54 · Jul 4, 2008, 02:42 PM

It's about bloody time!

3 x Sluggish speed should make it usable again!

Joe The Dragon · Jul 4, 2008, 02:42 PM

What about flash player 64bit?

mkrishnan · Jul 4, 2008, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by gcmexico

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I was wondering the same thing...no one has mentioned flash on the 3g iphone

No one is expecting it to have it. Not at launch, in any event.

Here is Adobe's most recent statement on their iPhone Flash status:

http://techblog.dallasnews.com/archi...ake-flash.html

powermac_daddy · Jul 4, 2008, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe The Dragon

What about flash player 64bit?

what about it? do you really need 64 for the flash player?

MacsRgr8 · Jul 4, 2008, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by powermac_daddy

what about it? do you really need 64 for the flash player?

I think he wants Flash Player to work on 64 bits browsers, i.e. Safari 64 bits (Snow Leopard) or IE 7 64 bits (Vista 64 bits).

SirOmega · Jul 4, 2008, 02:50 PM

Meh, flash is so bad on my first gen MB, I dont have it installed. Well, that and I have like 30 tabs open in FF too. So if I did have it installed it would grind to a halt. Hell, I've seen some newegg flash ads that suck up 90% of my CPU!

superleccy · Jul 4, 2008, 02:51 PM

Faster Flash on OS X?

Well it certainly couldn't get any slower.

SL

longofest · Jul 4, 2008, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by gcmexico

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I was wondering the same thing...no one has mentioned flash on the 3g iphone

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Originally Posted by thecritix

is flash on the iphone now?

Gonna buy 3g, just wondered cause lots of fuss was made.

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Originally Posted by tuffluffjimmy

They have mentioned it many times, actually. It's not coming to the iPhone. End of story.

Actually, they are announced that they are working on it. Early stages of development

http://www.macrumors.com/iphone/2008...y-development/

andyone · Jul 4, 2008, 02:52 PM

About time. If tiny videos don't run fluently on a 2.4 GHz dual core that's just ridiculous.

powermac_daddy · Jul 4, 2008, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MacsRgr8

I think he wants Flash Player to work on 64 bits browsers, i.e. Safari 64 bits (Snow Leopard) or IE 7 64 bits (Vista 64 bits).

Ok.

Snow Leopard just sounded kinda girly. Snow...!!! Leopard in the snow. Snow on the Leopard. Snow Leopard. So pretty. Ehhh...

Mavimao · Jul 4, 2008, 02:54 PM

Maybe I'll actually be able to watch a Youtube clip at a decent framerate in full screen! My god! Just imagine that!!!

vendettabass · Jul 4, 2008, 02:56 PM

fantastic! Sick of fan's on YouTube videos

BRLawyer · Jul 4, 2008, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by andyone

About time. If tiny videos don't run fluently on a 2.4 GHz dual core that's just ridiculous.

This is called bad coding, and abuse of market power on top of that...pretty much everything that Adobe creates nowadays apart from the Photoshop family is craptastically slow and bloated.

Flash is the single reason for making a browser crawl when surfing the web...nothing could be worse.

lacohido · Jul 4, 2008, 03:01 PM

I remember when I looked into flash a few years ago and found out that mac flash player (maybe version 6) was substantially slower on Mac than PC. Is this still true or has Adobe closed the Mac/PC gap in speed?

I remember flash sites running just fine on PC and unbearably slow on Mac

Silentwave · Jul 4, 2008, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MacsRgr8

I think he wants Flash Player to work on 64 bits browsers, i.e. Safari 64 bits (Snow Leopard) or IE 7 64 bits (Vista 64 bits).

Flash 9 is working fine here on the Safari 4 DP running in 64bit mode on 10.5.4.

achtung! · Jul 4, 2008, 03:17 PM

damn! the flashplayer 10 beta has huge problems with videos. don't install it!!!

swarmster · Jul 4, 2008, 03:20 PM

Just so everyone knows: Flash 10 requires OS 10.4 or higher. Adobe seems really reluctant to let anyone know that beforehand.

With Firefox 3 and Flash 10 going the 10.4+ route, looks like it'll soon be time for a Panther-online moment of silence.

Makosuke · 03:27 PM

I sure hope this is actually true. I'm not optimistic, though; I seem to remember just about every previous version being claimed to be "more optimized" which has added up to exactly nothing noticeable. More importantly, v9 has been so painfully slow on my machine that I'd even tried the previous v10 beta, but it wasn't at ALL better, possibly even worse. Maybe just debugging code, or maybe this latest beta has more optimizations, but I've given up hope of Adobe ever giving half a crap about speed or reasonable resource use.

Wouldn't be quite so bad if it weren't for all the friggin' flash ads out there.

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Originally Posted by lacohido

Is this still true or has Adobe closed the Mac/PC gap in speed?

Still painfully true.

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Originally Posted by BRLawyer

...pretty much everything that Adobe creates nowadays apart from the Photoshop family is craptastically slow and bloated.

Wait, Photoshop and friends aren't craptastically slow and bloated?

Ok, maybe not craptastically so, but given that Photoshop won't even handle simple operations on a moderate sized image smoothly without well over a gig of RAM and several gigs of scratch drive space, I don't think it qualifies as even reasonably efficient by most standards.

Speed not good enough? Throw more hardware at it! That seems to be Adobe's solution to everything.

Also, have you ever tried downloading Adobe's Flash uninstaller? It's a 40 MB disk image. For the uninstaller. The hilarious part? The disk image contains a 608KB uninstall application and 38 MB of... blank space. Seriously--try it.

[Edit: Aww, they apparently fixed it in the latest uninstaller release. Now it's a 1.3MB disk image with a 608K app on it, and another 600K of empty space. Still ridiculous.]

bobx2001 · Jul 4, 2008, 03:21 PM

So this means flash speeds on mac os my now be acceptable. This is really really late.

Jul 4, 2008, 02:22 PM	#3
mkrishnan Demi-God (Moderator) Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI, USA	If they can really deliver Windows Flash - like speeds on OS X, that would be about time wonderful. I hope they deliver the same for Linux soon, as well.... __________________ Mohan

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Flynntoo macrumors newbie Join Date: Jun 2007	awesome!! faster ads in my face __________________ AppleIIe/Performa6100//Powermac8100//eMac/MBP2.4/8giPhone AppleTV/airportexpress&extreme/2gShuffle/iSight/mightymouse/macmini

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morespce54 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Around the World	It's about bloody time! 3 x Sluggish speed should make it usable again! __________________ ..:.::.:.:.::..:.: Oh, I get it. It's very clever :.:.::.:.:.::.:..:.::..:.::.:..:.::.:.::.:.::.. DO NOT OPERATE YOUR COMPUTER UNDER THE INFLUENCE!

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superleccy macrumors 6502a Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: England	Faster Flash on OS X? Well it certainly couldn't get any *slower. SL __________________ 15" MBP:* 2.4GHz C2D SR; now 4GB RAM; 160GB 5400rpm HD; Matte; 20" Cinema Disp. 14" iBook G4: 1.33GHz; 768MB RAM; 80GB HD. Switched Nov '04.

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Mavimao macrumors 6502a Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: In the middle of Ohi-ah	Maybe I'll actually be able to watch a Youtube clip at a decent framerate in full screen! My god! Just imagine that!!! __________________ 2.4 Macbook Pro, 200 HD. My last mac was a sawtooth...

Jul 4, 2008, 02:21 PM	#2
thecritix macrumors 6502 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: West London, England	is flash on the iphone now? Gonna buy 3g, just wondered cause lots of fuss was made.

Jul 4, 2008, 02:42 PM	#8
Joe The Dragon macrumors regular Join Date: Jul 2006	What about flash player 64bit?

Jul 4, 2008, 02:50 PM	#12
SirOmega macrumors 6502a Join Date: Apr 2006	Meh, flash is so bad on my first gen MB, I dont have it installed. Well, that and I have like 30 tabs open in FF too. So if I did have it installed it would grind to a halt. Hell, I've seen some newegg flash ads that suck up 90% of my CPU!

Jul 4, 2008, 02:52 PM	#15
andyone macrumors newbie Join Date: Jan 2008	About time. If tiny videos don't run fluently on a 2.4 GHz dual core that's just ridiculous.

Jul 4, 2008, 02:56 PM	#18
vendettabass macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Manchester, UK	fantastic! Sick of fan's on YouTube videos

Jul 4, 2008, 03:01 PM	#20
lacohido macrumors newbie Join Date: May 2006	Flash Mac vs PC I remember when I looked into flash a few years ago and found out that mac flash player (maybe version 6) was substantially slower on Mac than PC. Is this still true or has Adobe closed the Mac/PC gap in speed? I remember flash sites running just fine on PC and unbearably slow on Mac

Jul 4, 2008, 03:17 PM	#22
achtung! macrumors regular Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Portugal	damn! the flashplayer 10 beta has huge problems with videos. don't install it!!!

Jul 4, 2008, 03:20 PM	#23
swarmster macrumors member Join Date: Jun 2004	Just so everyone knows: Flash 10 requires OS 10.4 or higher. Adobe seems really reluctant to let anyone know that beforehand. With Firefox 3 and Flash 10 going the 10.4+ route, looks like it'll soon be time for a Panther-online moment of silence.

Jul 4, 2008, 03:21 PM	#25
bobx2001 macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jun 2004	So this means flash speeds on mac os my now be acceptable. This is really really late.

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