iPhone 2.0 Firmware (5A347) Available Early - Page 42

joebeeson · Jul 10, 2008, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D4F

ummm... why??

im buying the iphone 3g tomoro..

im giving this iphone to my girlfriend, and the only way she can use it is by unlocking/jbing it.. so i guess i have to downgrade to 1.1.4 before i can jailbreak it..

any ideas?

tbrain · Jul 10, 2008, 09:49 PM

Will installing 2.0 wipe out all the free apps I hav been using for the past few months?

K3mp · Jul 10, 2008, 09:51 PM

If it is Jailbroken yes.

iLeoMarc · 10:01 PM

From Engadget:
"we're hearing whispers that the .ipsw in question was meant only for 3G phones and not first-gen units"

Can anyone confirm or deny this statement?

EDIT: Sorry just read the last 10 pages and noticed it was already talked about.

App1€ · Jul 10, 2008, 09:55 PM

That would make the wait so much more bearable knowing that I didn't mess up my phone with it

msmith2112 · Jul 10, 2008, 09:57 PM

Wirelessly posted (8Gb iPhone: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/4A102 Safari/419.3)

hehe...yeah, something told me to hold out. I'm glad I did!

b-a-r · Jul 10, 2008, 10:01 PM

Yea, its pretty buggy from what i can tell from a few hours of playing with it...some nav has sped up, while AOL 'aim' app crashes often, almost always when trying to use EDGE data.
And the whole bluetooth ****.. =(

App1€ · Jul 10, 2008, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by msmith2112

Wirelessly posted (8Gb iPhone: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/4A102 Safari/419.3)

hehe...yeah, something told me to hold out. I'm glad I did!

I hear you there as soon as I heard one report of something going wrong I said no, and started the waiting process. Thank God for NBC putting full episodes of The Office up.

taybo20 · 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joebeeson

im buying the iphone 3g tomoro..

im giving this iphone to my girlfriend, and the only way she can use it is by unlocking/jbing it.. so i guess i have to downgrade to 1.1.4 before i can jailbreak it..

any ideas?

iPhone Dev Team already jailbroke 2.0...you don't have to go back down...

http://gizmodo.com/5023971/iphone-os-20-unlocked-yes

taybo20 · Jul 10, 2008, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by App1€

I hear you there as soon as I heard one report of something going wrong I said no, and started the waiting process. Thank God for NBC putting full episodes of The Office up.

Yeah...i decided to wait too. Too many horror stories!!

Jmodamagicmofo · Jul 10, 2008, 10:10 PM

I thought the file was 3g specific. Everyone is saying hold out for official release tomorrow but who says the new firmware for first gens will be available on 3g launch?If they are different files apple could wait past tomorrow to update first gens, right?

App1€ · Jul 10, 2008, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jmodamagicmofo

I thought the file was 3g specific. Everyone is saying hold out for official release tomorrow but who says the new firmware for first gens will be available on 3g launch?If they are different files apple could wait past tomorrow to update first gens, right?

No Apple has said that it will definitely be out on the 11th

SPX · Jul 10, 2008, 10:20 PM

Okay folks, my apologies that I haven't answered some of the replies to me today; It's been a very busy day.

To answer the question that several users have asked both in public, and via private message, iPhone 3G is shipping with build 5A345. 5A347 is a build that was never intended for a production environment, and certainly not for installation on the original iPhone! As I mentioned earlier, it was built to be installed on iPhone 3G development test units only (note, I did not say production units), and has not been tested or designed for the original iPhone.

Build 5A347 contains a significant amount of debug code and that is, in part, the reason for the slowdowns iPhone classic users are seeing. As also mentioned previously, when 32k of debug data is collected, the build is designed to dump the data to a location which no production iPhone supports, and hence you're seeing timeouts while the write process attempts to do its job.

As far as other slowdowns are concerned, any time iPhone 3G specific code attempts to execute (location, contacts, pictures, and web are the most prevalent) a timeout is going to occur, and this will be seen to the end user as a momentary freeze. As presented by others earlier, while the code base is the same between the original iPhone and iPhone 3G 2.0 software, 5A345 has code modules active which can detect which hardware it is running on (touch, iPhone original, iPhone 3G, etc.) and handle certain cases appropriately, given the hardware, and thereby prevent the momentary slowdowns that some users are seeing.

In plain English what I am saying:

- 5A345 does not have the slowdowns some users are seeing.

- Furthermore, 5A347, the build which many on here are now running was not designed for anything but iPhone 3G developmental units. That is to say, running it on the original iPhone is not a tested or intended platform.

- Slowdowns that users are seeing are caused specifically by running an incorrect version of the firmware on unsupported units.

I hope that this information helps clear up some lingering questions.

NJPitcher · Jul 10, 2008, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by App1€

No Apple has said that it will definitely be out on the 11th

Apple said MobileMe would be launched by this morning

Jmodamagicmofo · Jul 10, 2008, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by App1€

No Apple has said that it will definitely be out on the 11th

really. I would like to take ur word for it but all I've read about for 2.0 is in regards to 3g. Where did you read that?

jwsmiths · Jul 10, 2008, 10:31 PM

The real 2.0 seems to suddenly be out. My wife just plugged her iPhone into her MacBook Air after she got home from work and it started downloading the update automatically, and it only weighs in at 162.1MB.

App1€ · Jul 10, 2008, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwsmiths

The real 2.0 seems to suddenly be out. My wife just plugged her iPhone into her MacBook Air after she got home from work and it started downloading the update automatically, and it only weighs in at 161.2MB.

Not for me ='[

And I'll find the spot where it says the 11th

katieparker · Jul 10, 2008, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwsmiths

The real 2.0 seems to suddenly be out. My wife just plugged her iPhone into her MacBook Air after she got home from work and it started downloading the update automatically, and it only weighs in at 162.1MB.

What? No way! Mine doesn't show that in iTunes! *repeatedly hitting Check for Update*

Mav1323 · Jul 10, 2008, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwsmiths

The real 2.0 seems to suddenly be out. My wife just plugged her iPhone into her MacBook Air after she got home from work and it started downloading the update automatically, and it only weighs in at 162.1MB.

Just plugged in my iPhone into my computer and checked for an update but it said 1.1.4 is the latest version.

dannyallen34 · Jul 10, 2008, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPX

Okay folks, my apologies that I haven't answered some of the replies to me today; It's been a very busy day...

Assuming all of this is true, and since you seem to know what you're talking about, will users who have updated using the 5A347 firmware be able to "Upgrade" to the production 5A345?

Mav1323 · Jul 10, 2008, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPX

Okay folks, my apologies that I haven't answered some of the replies to me today; It's been a very busy day.

To answer the question that several users have asked both in public, and via private message, iPhone 3G is shipping with build 5A345. 5A347 is a build that was never intended for a production environment, and certainly not for installation on the original iPhone! As I mentioned earlier, it was built to be installed on iPhone 3G development test units only (note, I did not say production units), and has not been tested or designed for the original iPhone.

Build 5A347 contains a significant amount of debug code and that is, in part, the reason for the slowdowns iPhone classic users are seeing. As also mentioned previously, when 32k of debug data is collected, the build is designed to dump the data to a location which no production iPhone supports, and hence you're seeing timeouts while the write process attempts to do its job.

As far as other slowdowns are concerned, any time iPhone 3G specific code attempts to execute (location, contacts, pictures, and web are the most prevalent) a timeout is going to occur, and this will be seen to the end user as a momentary freeze. As presented by others earlier, while the code base is the same between the original iPhone and iPhone 3G 2.0 software, 5A345 has code modules active which can detect which hardware it is running on (touch, iPhone original, iPhone 3G, etc.) and handle certain cases appropriately, given the hardware, and thereby prevent the momentary slowdowns that some users are seeing.

In plain English what I am saying:

- 5A345 does not have the slowdowns some users are seeing.

- Furthermore, 5A347, the build which many on here are now running was not designed for anything but iPhone 3G developmental units. That is to say, running it on the original iPhone is not a tested or intended platform.

- Slowdowns that users are seeing are caused specifically by running an incorrect version of the firmware on unsupported units.

I hope that this information helps clear up some lingering questions.

You sound like you know what you're talking about but how do you know for sure? Do you work for Apple or something?

cwosigns · Jul 10, 2008, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b-a-r

Yea, its pretty buggy from what i can tell from a few hours of playing with it...some nav has sped up, while AOL 'aim' app crashes often, almost always when trying to use EDGE data.
And the whole bluetooth ****.. =(

I'm not having ANY of these issues; I guess I got lucky.

jwsmiths · Jul 10, 2008, 10:42 PM

Here it is downloading

Sorry it's blurry, took it from MY iPhone, but as you can see it's a LOT smaller than the previous 5A347 we've all been installing...

Randall Morgan · Jul 10, 2008, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeekLawyer

Yes. There's a new tab in the iPhone setup window within iTunes. You can have all Apps sync or only selected ones.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwsmiths

The real 2.0 seems to suddenly be out. My wife just plugged her iPhone into her MacBook Air after she got home from work and it started downloading the update automatically, and it only weighs in at 162.1MB.

For real?!!

Mine's not

lord patton · Jul 10, 2008, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwsmiths

Here it is downloading

How!?!?

Jul 10, 2008, 09:49 PM	#1027
tbrain macrumors newbie Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ventura, Ca.	Apple iPhoneApps Will installing 2.0 wipe out all the free apps I hav been using for the past few months?

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iLeoMarc macrumors regular Join Date: Jul 2007	From Engadget: "we're hearing whispers that the .ipsw in question was meant only for 3G phones and not first-gen units" Can anyone confirm or deny this statement? EDIT: Sorry just read the last 10 pages and noticed it was already talked about. __________________ I bought my Mac as an accessory to my iPhone.... Last edited by iLeoMarc : Jul 10, 2008 at 10:01 PM.

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jwsmiths macrumors member Join Date: Jul 2006	Here it is downloading Sorry it's blurry, took it from MY iPhone, but as you can see it's a LOT smaller than the previous 5A347 we've all been installing... Attached Thumbnails

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Jul 10, 2008, 09:55 PM	#1030
App1€ macrumors regular Join Date: Jun 2008	That would make the wait so much more bearable knowing that I didn't mess up my phone with it

Jul 10, 2008, 09:57 PM	#1031
msmith2112 macrumors regular Join Date: Sep 2002	Wirelessly posted (8Gb iPhone: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/4A102 Safari/419.3) hehe...yeah, something told me to hold out. I'm glad I did!

Jul 10, 2008, 10:01 PM	#1032
b-a-r macrumors newbie Join Date: Jul 2008	Yea, its pretty buggy from what i can tell from a few hours of playing with it...some nav has sped up, while AOL 'aim' app crashes often, almost always when trying to use EDGE data. And the whole bluetooth ****.. =(

Jul 10, 2008, 10:10 PM	#1036
Jmodamagicmofo macrumors newbie Join Date: Jun 2008	I thought the file was 3g specific. Everyone is saying hold out for official release tomorrow but who says the new firmware for first gens will be available on 3g launch?If they are different files apple could wait past tomorrow to update first gens, right?

Jul 10, 2008, 10:20 PM	#1038
SPX macrumors newbie Join Date: Jul 2008	Okay folks, my apologies that I haven't answered some of the replies to me today; It's been a very busy day. To answer the question that several users have asked both in public, and via private message, iPhone 3G is shipping with build 5A345. 5A347 is a build that was never intended for a production environment, and certainly not for installation on the original iPhone! As I mentioned earlier, it was built to be installed on iPhone 3G development test units only (note, I did not say production units), and has not been tested or designed for the original iPhone. Build 5A347 contains a significant amount of debug code and that is, in part, the reason for the slowdowns iPhone classic users are seeing. As also mentioned previously, when 32k of debug data is collected, the build is designed to dump the data to a location which no production iPhone supports, and hence you're seeing timeouts while the write process attempts to do its job. As far as other slowdowns are concerned, any time iPhone 3G specific code attempts to execute (location, contacts, pictures, and web are the most prevalent) a timeout is going to occur, and this will be seen to the end user as a momentary freeze. As presented by others earlier, while the code base is the same between the original iPhone and iPhone 3G 2.0 software, 5A345 has code modules active which can detect which hardware it is running on (touch, iPhone original, iPhone 3G, etc.) and handle certain cases appropriately, given the hardware, and thereby prevent the momentary slowdowns that some users are seeing. In plain English what I am saying: - 5A345 does not have the slowdowns some users are seeing. - Furthermore, 5A347, the build which many on here are now running was not designed for anything but iPhone 3G developmental units. That is to say, running it on the original iPhone is not a tested or intended platform. - Slowdowns that users are seeing are caused specifically by running an incorrect version of the firmware on unsupported units. I hope that this information helps clear up some lingering questions.

Jul 10, 2008, 10:31 PM	#1041
jwsmiths macrumors member Join Date: Jul 2006	The real 2.0 seems to suddenly be out. My wife just plugged her iPhone into her MacBook Air after she got home from work and it started downloading the update automatically, and it only weighs in at 162.1MB.