SHAZAM..How the hell does it do that?

cenetti · Jul 10, 2008, 12:20 PM

This is like one of those WTF?!! moments for me...

I tried 10+ songs, every time, it told me what song I was playing...

What's the technology behind this application?

I am officially impressed!

Just play a song, hold your iphone next to your speaker and in 10secs it identifies the song... whoa?!!

D3lta · Jul 10, 2008, 12:26 PM

Magic.

ipodtouchy333 · Jul 10, 2008, 12:26 PM

Cool, huh? Try midomi though. It's like the same thing except you can actually sing to it or hum the song and it will tell you. I haven't tested either of these because I will be getting my iPhone tomorrow of course but these will be great apps to use for sure!

newappleboy · Jul 10, 2008, 12:29 PM

Will apps like this function on the touch? I suppose not, but am not sure. Have yet to purchase the touch, nor have I been home yet today to download iTunes 7.7 to play with the app store. Does it even separate which apps will not work on the touch but will on the phone?

drewfus · Jul 10, 2008, 12:31 PM

I'm impressed with Shazam as well. Out of the 10 or so songs that I tried, it got 8 of them. The two that it had trouble with were classical pieces. The others were rock, pop, jazz, and R&B. I guess I'll go into the settings and see if making the listening time longer will help at all.

I was skeptical about how well it would work at first, but now I think it's awesome!

kwjohns · Jul 10, 2008, 01:11 PM

Awesome! I was so upset when I found out the one from the jailbreak a while ago was no longer going to be in development due to licensing costs. Nice to know I'll have this app back.

mrklaw · Jul 10, 2008, 01:34 PM

it'd be good if it could then search the wifi itune store and let you buy it...

t0mat0 · Jul 10, 2008, 01:38 PM

i thought you could get a song via shazam?

http://arts.guardian.co.uk/columns/p...800257,00.html

Developments in audio pattern recognition mean that songs are given their own unique fingerprint. Hold up a mobile in a club or to the radio or TV and Shazam can check the 1.6 million songs it has on file. A text message naming the title and artist arrives within seconds. This technology has five patent applications; four were needed to detect variances in the work of Big Country.

Bit like audiobrainz - fingerprinting songs and getting their tags.

xerostyles · Jul 10, 2008, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrklaw

it'd be good if it could then search the wifi itune store and let you buy it...

It already has this feature.

billchase2 · Jul 10, 2008, 01:54 PM

does shazam or midomi seem to be working better for you guys? the two seem to do relatively the same thing.

irun5k · Jul 10, 2008, 02:01 PM

Basically, it transmits the audio in real time to a large call center type place overseas (70 cents an hour kind of place), where there are a bunch of workers who are very familiar with music and can recognize 90% of all songs instantly. There is a fail over, so if one person doesn't know the song, it rolls over to one of his colleagues, who very well may know it.

When these guys aren't handling song identifications, they subcontract to answer Dell Support phone calls. Need a hand with that wireless router?

okay, okay. its a joke.

Jeremy1026 · Jul 10, 2008, 02:14 PM

Cost for SHAZAM?

Tallest Skil · Jul 10, 2008, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremy1026

Cost for SHAZAM?

Free. Just LOOK for it.

Jeremy1026 · Jul 10, 2008, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tallest Skil

Free. Just LOOK for it.

Unfortunatly my job doesn't allow me to have iTunes on my computer. Actually, we aren't allowed to download anything, for security purposes, sucks working in a bank.

PrinceOfEgypt · Jul 10, 2008, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremy1026

Cost for SHAZAM?

both are free (SHAZAM and modimi)

Tallest Skil · Jul 10, 2008, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremy1026

Unfortunatly my job doesn't allow me to have iTunes on my computer. Actually, we aren't allowed to download anything, for security purposes, sucks working in a bank.

Ah. Understandable. Say that you don't have iTunes access next time; that's something taken for granted these days!

newappleboy · Jul 10, 2008, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newappleboy

Will apps like this function on the touch? I suppose not, but am not sure. Have yet to purchase the touch, nor have I been home yet today to download iTunes 7.7 to play with the app store. Does it even separate which apps will not work on the touch but will on the phone?

Anyone...? I'm also at work and can't browse the iTunes which I have heard separates Touch apps from iPhone apps.

billchase2 · Jul 10, 2008, 02:31 PM

i think i'll stick with midomi. you can hum, speak, play, or type to figure out the song...

Sky Blue · Jul 10, 2008, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newappleboy

Anyone...? I'm also at work and can't browse the iTunes which I have heard separates Touch apps from iPhone apps.

It's not compatible with iPod Touch

newappleboy · Jul 10, 2008, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sky Blue

It's not compatible with iPod Touch

Awww. I'm sad.

Lee Fyock · Jul 10, 2008, 03:00 PM

I tried Shazam with two songs on youtube, and it identified both. I then tried the same two with Midomi, and it didn't identify either. I tried humming one of the songs to Midomi, and it didn't get that either.

The Shazam interface seems a bit cleaner as well.

That's my 2 minutes of testing. I don't know anyone who works for Shazam or anything. :-)

Maybe the Midomi server's down or something?

PeckinOrder · Jul 10, 2008, 03:26 PM

while i know this is a forum for apple and the iphone and stuff this technology has been out for a while. Verizon has had this on some of their phones for nearly a year. It would listen to the song for 10 seconds and be able to tell you who plays it what CD its on and whats the name of the song. And then through their Vcast would then let you buy it in either ring tone format or full song version.

Now I dont know if this is better or worse then the VCast version Verizon has but it has been out for a while.

I used it but never really got to much of use out of it. But it was cool using it while i had Verizon before I bought my iphone. Ill prolly get this again and see how much I use it this time.

rcw3 · Jul 10, 2008, 03:27 PM

The recognition technology used by Shazam (www.shazam.com) is owned by Landmark Digital (www.landmarkdigital.com). It is a patented fingerprinting technology that recognizes practically any audio that is within the recognition database very quickly and with a very small amount of audio even under heavy noise. Shazam provides recognition services on phones and smartphones all over the world (and now the iPhone).

For the person who mentioned classical - classical is a huge library that is difficult to keep cataloged, which is likely the reason it wasn't picked up. Other genres should work very well.

briand05 · Jul 10, 2008, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee Fyock

I tried Shazam with two songs on youtube, and it identified both. I then tried the same two with Midomi, and it didn't identify either. I tried humming one of the songs to Midomi, and it didn't get that either.

The Shazam interface seems a bit cleaner as well.

That's my 2 minutes of testing. I don't know anyone who works for Shazam or anything. :-)

Maybe the Midomi server's down or something?

Yeah same experience here, I tried many songs with Midomi and it recognized only 1 out of the several I tried while the Shazam app has worked with every one I've tried.

Jaunty · Jul 10, 2008, 04:12 PM

We have had Shazam for years over here in the UK, just dial a number then hold the phone up to the block rocking beat & get an SMS with the song details (for a small charge, no charge if the song is not tagged).

Nice to see it packaged up as an iPhone app though.

Jul 10, 2008, 12:20 PM	#1
cenetti macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jan 2008	SHAZAM..How the hell does it do that? This is like one of those WTF?!! moments for me... I tried 10+ songs, every time, it told me what song I was playing... What's the technology behind this application? I am officially impressed! Just play a song, hold your iphone next to your speaker and in 10secs it identifies the song... whoa?!!
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Jul 10, 2008, 12:26 PM	#2
D3lta macrumors 6502a Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cupertino, California	Magic. __________________ black & slate 64GB iPhone 5 on Verizon 4th gen iPad 16GB Wi-Fi 3rd gen iPad 16GB Wi-Fi + 4G LTE on Verizon 1st gen iPad 32GB Wi-Fi
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Jul 10, 2008, 12:29 PM	#4
newappleboy macrumors 6502a Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Fort Worth, TX	Will apps like this function on the touch? I suppose not, but am not sure. Have yet to purchase the touch, nor have I been home yet today to download iTunes 7.7 to play with the app store. Does it even separate which apps will not work on the touch but will on the phone? __________________ TheRealJamesDean.com - Where being cool and suave is always slightly out of reach. Also, I'm a Tumblr!
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Jul 10, 2008, 12:31 PM	#5
drewfus macrumors regular Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Miami, FL	I'm impressed with Shazam as well. Out of the 10 or so songs that I tried, it got 8 of them. The two that it had trouble with were classical pieces. The others were rock, pop, jazz, and R&B. I guess I'll go into the settings and see if making the listening time longer will help at all. I was skeptical about how well it would work at first, but now I think it's awesome! __________________ My Stuff: 13" Retina MacBook Pro (late 2012) 2.9 GHz i7, 8GB RAM Black & Slate iPhone 5 (AT&T) 32GB \| Black & Slate iPad Mini WiFi+4G (AT&T) 32GB
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Jul 10, 2008, 01:38 PM	#8
t0mat0 macrumors 68040 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Home	i thought you could get a song via shazam? http://arts.guardian.co.uk/columns/p...800257,00.html Developments in audio pattern recognition mean that songs are given their own unique fingerprint. Hold up a mobile in a club or to the radio or TV and Shazam can check the 1.6 million songs it has on file. A text message naming the title and artist arrives within seconds. This technology has five patent applications; four were needed to detect variances in the work of Big Country. Bit like audiobrainz - fingerprinting songs and getting their tags. __________________ Next up - Haswell, Maxwell and 22nm
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Jul 10, 2008, 12:26 PM	#3
ipodtouchy333 macrumors 65816 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: US	Cool, huh? Try midomi though. It's like the same thing except you can actually sing to it or hum the song and it will tell you. I haven't tested either of these because I will be getting my iPhone tomorrow of course but these will be great apps to use for sure!
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Jul 10, 2008, 01:11 PM	#6
kwjohns macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jul 2007	Awesome! I was so upset when I found out the one from the jailbreak a while ago was no longer going to be in development due to licensing costs. Nice to know I'll have this app back.
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Jul 10, 2008, 01:34 PM	#7
mrklaw macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jan 2008	it'd be good if it could then search the wifi itune store and let you buy it...
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Jul 10, 2008, 01:54 PM	#10
billchase2 macrumors 65816 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ann Arbor	does shazam or midomi seem to be working better for you guys? the two seem to do relatively the same thing. __________________ 21.5" iMac 3.06 GHz Intel Core i3 l 15" MacBook Pro 2.2 GHz Intel Core i7 l 17" PowerBook 1.67 GHz iPhone 5 32 GB l  TV 160 GB l 16 GB iPad 3rd Gen
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Jul 10, 2008, 02:01 PM	#11
irun5k macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jan 2005	Basically, it transmits the audio in real time to a large call center type place overseas (70 cents an hour kind of place), where there are a bunch of workers who are very familiar with music and can recognize 90% of all songs instantly. There is a fail over, so if one person doesn't know the song, it rolls over to one of his colleagues, who very well may know it. When these guys aren't handling song identifications, they subcontract to answer Dell Support phone calls. Need a hand with that wireless router? okay, okay. its a joke.
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Jul 10, 2008, 02:14 PM	#12
Jeremy1026 macrumors 68000 Join Date: Nov 2007	Cost for SHAZAM? __________________ 1026 Development
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Jul 10, 2008, 02:31 PM	#18
billchase2 macrumors 65816 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ann Arbor	i think i'll stick with midomi. you can hum, speak, play, or type to figure out the song... __________________ 21.5" iMac 3.06 GHz Intel Core i3 l 15" MacBook Pro 2.2 GHz Intel Core i7 l 17" PowerBook 1.67 GHz iPhone 5 32 GB l  TV 160 GB l 16 GB iPad 3rd Gen
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Jul 10, 2008, 03:00 PM	#21
Lee Fyock macrumors newbie Join Date: Jul 2008	Shazam is pretty cool I tried Shazam with two songs on youtube, and it identified both. I then tried the same two with Midomi, and it didn't identify either. I tried humming one of the songs to Midomi, and it didn't get that either. The Shazam interface seems a bit cleaner as well. That's my 2 minutes of testing. I don't know anyone who works for Shazam or anything. :-) Maybe the Midomi server's down or something?
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Jul 10, 2008, 03:26 PM	#22
PeckinOrder macrumors newbie Join Date: Jul 2008	while i know this is a forum for apple and the iphone and stuff this technology has been out for a while. Verizon has had this on some of their phones for nearly a year. It would listen to the song for 10 seconds and be able to tell you who plays it what CD its on and whats the name of the song. And then through their Vcast would then let you buy it in either ring tone format or full song version. Now I dont know if this is better or worse then the VCast version Verizon has but it has been out for a while. I used it but never really got to much of use out of it. But it was cool using it while i had Verizon before I bought my iphone. Ill prolly get this again and see how much I use it this time.
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Jul 10, 2008, 03:27 PM	#23
rcw3 macrumors newbie Join Date: Jul 2006	The recognition technology used by Shazam (www.shazam.com) is owned by Landmark Digital (www.landmarkdigital.com). It is a patented fingerprinting technology that recognizes practically any audio that is within the recognition database very quickly and with a very small amount of audio even under heavy noise. Shazam provides recognition services on phones and smartphones all over the world (and now the iPhone). For the person who mentioned classical - classical is a huge library that is difficult to keep cataloged, which is likely the reason it wasn't picked up. Other genres should work very well.
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Jul 10, 2008, 04:12 PM	#25
Jaunty macrumors member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: London, England	Shazam We have had Shazam for years over here in the UK, just dial a number then hold the phone up to the block rocking beat & get an SMS with the song details (for a small charge, no charge if the song is not tagged). Nice to see it packaged up as an iPhone app though.
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