Java 3D and Java Advanced Imaging Update

MacRumors · Dec 18, 2003, 05:09 AM

Apple has also released Java 3D and Java Advanced Imaging Update.

Quote:

This update contains support for Java3D and Java Advanced ImagingJava 3D extends the Java platform, providing additional capabilities for running three-dimensional graphics applications and Internet-based 3D applets.

Java Advanced Imaging (JAI) Update extends the Java platform, providing additional capabilities for running image processing applications and imaging applets in Java.

mgescuro · Dec 18, 2003, 05:18 AM

Gee.. that's a lot of updates for one day!! 3!! Must be a record for Apple.

ckwm · Dec 18, 2003, 05:20 AM

Good grief they've been busy - three updates! I would have thought they would all be working on the new iWrite tablet/pda/phone with built in wireless video distribution, dual G5s, liquid cooling and toaster. Maybe my dreams for MWSF are not going to come true after all...

AmigoMac · Dec 18, 2003, 05:23 AM

I want to start my work and have been just updating and writing here what I get...

What's next? , nice if they got an improvement... 3 in row... ok, I'll back! computer is restart...

amnesiac1984 · Dec 18, 2003, 05:36 AM

So why isn't this in software update?

the 10.3.2 update went perfect for me with no broken permissions (off topic I know but I didn't want to post to both threads)

ITR 81 · Dec 18, 2003, 06:18 AM

Probably wasn't included with 10.3.2 because it wasn't part of the seeded developers software package.

I'm hoping this helps abit on the Java side while browsing on the net.

iChan · Dec 18, 2003, 08:58 AM

what kind of apps actually take advantage of this?

I recently saw this video of java 3D... here...

http://wwws.sun.com/software/looking_glass/demo.html

it looks fantastic, is this the kind of stuff that we can look forward to?

iChan · Dec 18, 2003, 08:59 AM

just downloaded it...looks good

JohnStrass · Dec 18, 2003, 09:07 AM

Uh oh. I just noticed that it needs Panther. I really am happy with Jaguar, but I suppose I should ge twith the times in my iMac 800...
Would panther kill my iMac G3 333 500MB Ram? Ihave kept it on 9.2, but time to get with the times, I think

Compufix · Dec 18, 2003, 09:16 AM

I just installed Panther on an iMac (Graphite with 700 megs RAM) last night also noticed in software updates 10.3.2. Machine works VERY well (400 Mhz I think) and it just seems very quick for the age of the machine. Of course the extra RAM always helps.

kenkooler · Dec 18, 2003, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by amnesiac1984
So why isn't this in software update?

the 10.3.2 update went perfect for me with no broken permissions (off topic I know but I didn't want to post to both threads)

I doesn't appear to me either, probably because I downloaded the betas from the ADC website.

Postal · Dec 18, 2003, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JohnStrass
Uh oh. I just noticed that it needs Panther. I really am happy with Jaguar, but I suppose I should ge twith the times in my iMac 800...
Would panther kill my iMac G3 333 500MB Ram? Ihave kept it on 9.2, but time to get with the times, I think

Your iMac G3 could technically run it (heck, we have a 333 MHz iMac at work running Jaguar) but it would probably not be a good idea, unless you intend to use it as, say, an iTunes jukebox for a network or an FTP server.

mrdrumbum · Dec 18, 2003, 09:30 AM

how come it's not showing up in my software update?

Lewisham · Dec 18, 2003, 09:31 AM

So is this release the same as the developer tools 2 beta? I'm currently in the middle of a year-long Uni project being developed in Java 3D, a confirmed stable release would be excellent.

I haven't yet found any link on the Apple site to download the standalone package yet...

iChan · Dec 18, 2003, 09:37 AM

I don't knwo wwhat everyone is complaining about... the link is in the news article... about three words in, it's highlighted for you...

just click on it and it takes you to Apple's website, you can download it from there.

Lewisham · Dec 18, 2003, 09:53 AM

*wipes egg off face*
It's still early. I haven't had a coffee. I've been drinking gin...

*just look cool and no-one will notice*

rotorblade · Dec 18, 2003, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JohnStrass
Would panther kill my iMac G3 333 500MB Ram? Ihave kept it on 9.2, but time to get with the times, I think

I installed Panther on my sisters Blueberry 333 (w/512MB RAM) and I was pleasantly surprised by how well Panther ran on it. Tried an audio iChat session and numerous other applications and they all ran really well. For the everyday user, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend Panther for older iMacs.

iChan · Dec 18, 2003, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lewisham
*wipes egg off face*
It's still early. I haven't had a coffee. I've been drinking gin...

*just look cool and no-one will notice*

smooth, real smooth...

vanmonkey · Dec 18, 2003, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rotorblade
I installed Panther on my sisters Blueberry 333 (w/512MB RAM) and I was pleasantly surprised by how well Panther ran on it. Tried an audio iChat session and numerous other applications and they all ran really well. For the everyday user, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend Panther for older iMacs.

I'm a big fan of the OS X upgrades, and my testing ground has been...
(drumroll please)
...My girlfriend's Bodi Blue iMac (233Mhz)!!

And not a single complaint. OS X just keeps getting faster and faster!

AirUncleP · Dec 18, 2003, 11:07 AM

What do I do when my Software Update icon starts smoking?

robotrenegade · Dec 18, 2003, 12:23 PM

I have 10.3.2. update and I'm still not seeing it in software update.

simX · Dec 18, 2003, 01:04 PM

It doesn't appear in Software Update!! Yeesh, not every update appears in there. This is one of those things that probably only a vast minority is going to use, so it's useless to put it in the control panel. If you want it, you need to download it via the link.

Macco · Dec 18, 2003, 01:43 PM

So... what exactly do these updates do? I mean, what sort of applications would implement Java 3D and in what sort of way?

damson34 · Dec 18, 2003, 01:48 PM

the reason why it isnt in the SU is because it is beta software. Not a final version.

gregorypierce · Dec 19, 2003, 11:18 AM

It is odd that Apple is releasing updates for an API which Sun is no longer really supporting themselves. While its great that they listened to outstanding demand for the API by Java developers and provided it - there are no Sun developers actually working on the original Java3D API any more.

All of the meat of development (from Sun) has moved onto the Java Game Initiative APIs (which are also open source).

So while this is cool, it seems to make no logistical sense at all.

Dec 18, 2003, 05:18 AM	#2
mgescuro macrumors member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Silicon Valley	Hmm Gee.. that's a lot of updates for one day!! 3!! Must be a record for Apple. __________________ "...when all hope is gone, you know sad songs say so much..."

Dec 18, 2003, 05:20 AM	#3
ckwm macrumors member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK	Good grief they've been busy - three updates! I would have thought they would all be working on the new iWrite tablet/pda/phone with built in wireless video distribution, dual G5s, liquid cooling and toaster. Maybe my dreams for MWSF are not going to come true after all... __________________ Chris

Dec 18, 2003, 05:23 AM	#4
AmigoMac macrumors 68020 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: l'Allemagne	Hey! I want to start my work and have been just updating and writing here what I get... What's next? , nice if they got an improvement... 3 in row... ok, I'll back! computer is restart... __________________ No Mac no fun...

Dec 18, 2003, 09:07 AM	#9
JohnStrass macrumors member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Miami, USA	Time to Pantherise.. Uh oh. I just noticed that it needs Panther. I really am happy with Jaguar, but I suppose I should ge twith the times in my iMac 800... Would panther kill my iMac G3 333 500MB Ram? Ihave kept it on 9.2, but time to get with the times, I think __________________ In 2000, Michael Dell gave Bush and the reckless republicans $266,000 (Just behind Ken Lay of Enron). Yet another reason to buy a Mac

Dec 18, 2003, 09:16 AM	#10
Compufix macrumors regular Join Date: May 2002 Location: PA	Panther on iMac I just installed Panther on an iMac (Graphite with 700 megs RAM) last night also noticed in software updates 10.3.2. Machine works VERY well (400 Mhz I think) and it just seems very quick for the age of the machine. Of course the extra RAM always helps.

Dec 18, 2003, 05:36 AM	#5
amnesiac1984 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Europe	So why isn't this in software update? the 10.3.2 update went perfect for me with no broken permissions (off topic I know but I didn't want to post to both threads)

Dec 18, 2003, 06:18 AM	#6
ITR 81 macrumors 65816 Join Date: Oct 2003	Probably wasn't included with 10.3.2 because it wasn't part of the seeded developers software package. I'm hoping this helps abit on the Java side while browsing on the net.

Dec 18, 2003, 08:58 AM	#7
iChan macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Dublin, Ireland.	what kind of apps actually take advantage of this? I recently saw this video of java 3D... here... http://wwws.sun.com/software/looking_glass/demo.html it looks fantastic, is this the kind of stuff that we can look forward to?

Dec 18, 2003, 08:59 AM	#8
iChan macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Dublin, Ireland.	just downloaded it...looks good

Dec 18, 2003, 09:30 AM	#13
mrdrumbum macrumors newbie Join Date: Apr 2003	how come it's not showing up in my software update?

Dec 18, 2003, 09:31 AM	#14
Lewisham macrumors member Join Date: Oct 2003	So is this release the same as the developer tools 2 beta? I'm currently in the middle of a year-long Uni project being developed in Java 3D, a confirmed stable release would be excellent. I haven't yet found any link on the Apple site to download the standalone package yet...

Dec 18, 2003, 09:37 AM	#15
iChan macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Dublin, Ireland.	I don't knwo wwhat everyone is complaining about... the link is in the news article... about three words in, it's highlighted for you... just click on it and it takes you to Apple's website, you can download it from there.

Dec 18, 2003, 09:53 AM	#16
Lewisham macrumors member Join Date: Oct 2003	wipes egg off face It's still early. I haven't had a coffee. I've been drinking gin... just look cool and no-one will notice

Dec 18, 2003, 11:07 AM	#20
AirUncleP macrumors regular Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: USA	dial 911 What do I do when my Software Update icon starts smoking? __________________ plaid pants......and an argyal sweater......No he's not retarded! McToast gets it.......do you?

Dec 18, 2003, 12:23 PM	#21
robotrenegade macrumors 6502a Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Greenville,SC	I have 10.3.2. update and I'm still not seeing it in software update. __________________ 60GB iPod \| 17" Mac Book Pro \| Mac OS 10.5.4 \| 8GB iphone

Dec 18, 2003, 01:04 PM	#22
simX macrumors 6502a Join Date: May 2002 Location: Bay Area, CA	It doesn't appear in Software Update!! Yeesh, not every update appears in there. This is one of those things that probably only a vast minority is going to use, so it's useless to put it in the control panel. If you want it, you need to download it via the link. __________________ Get Memory Usage Getter, the only Mac OS X utility that graphically displays the memory and CPU usage of every open process! 800 MHz 17" G4 iMac \| 1 GB RAM \| SuperDrive \| OS X 10.3.2 \| iPod Join the MacRumors SETI team, and help kick Symantec off the Top 200 list!

Dec 18, 2003, 01:43 PM	#23
Macco macrumors regular Join Date: Jun 2003	So... what exactly do these updates do? I mean, what sort of applications would implement Java 3D and in what sort of way? __________________ "Whereas Apple is indeed planning to continue its 'controlled, methodical expansion' through the end of next year, the first half of 2005 will see a switch to a 'haphazard, higgledy-piggledy expansion,' followed by two weeks of a 'mellow, nougat-filled expansion,' then three to five minutes of a 'frenzied, cactus-colored contraction,' and finally a thousand-year era of 'perfect Zen retail balance' and 'free Enlightenment to the first billion customers.' " - As the Apple Turns, regarding Apple Store expansion (8/7/03)

Dec 18, 2003, 01:48 PM	#24
damson34 macrumors regular Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Houston, TX	the reason why it isnt in the SU is because it is beta software. Not a final version.

Dec 19, 2003, 11:18 AM	#25
gregorypierce macrumors regular Join Date: Jan 2002	It is odd that Apple is releasing updates for an API which Sun is no longer really supporting themselves. While its great that they listened to outstanding demand for the API by Java developers and provided it - there are no Sun developers actually working on the original Java3D API any more. All of the meat of development (from Sun) has moved onto the Java Game Initiative APIs (which are also open source). So while this is cool, it seems to make no logistical sense at all.

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