From Apple Support: sorry, Its not Push..no fix comings

[vannibombonato]

Dears,
just to let you know that the Push between desktop apps and the infamous cloud simply does not exist.

http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1155

The "automatic, instantly" that was advertised is simply a 15 minutes interval syncing between your mac and the redicolous cloud. I dont know how can this legally be possible with what they have shown in the keynote, shown in the guided tour video, and sold for 99 bucks.

Also i wonder what happens if, say, i change a calendar entry in my ical desktop app 1 minute before going out of home, then shut down the computer. Guess what? Unfortunately i wasnt lucky enough to get it synced...

This is not exchange for the rest of us, because exchange works. This is only a pathetically implemented scam. Im digusted.

[zedsdead]

Originally Posted by vannibombonato

Dears,
just to let you know that the Push between desktop apps and the infamous cloud simply does not exist.

http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1155

The "automatic, instantly" that was advertised is simply a 15 minutes interval syncing between your mac and the redicolous cloud. I dont know how can this legally be possible with what they have shown in the keynote, shown in the guided tour video, and sold for 99 bucks.

Also i wonder what happens if, say, i change a calendar entry in my ical desktop app 1 minute before going out of home, then shut down the computer. Guess what? Unfortunately i wasnt lucky enough to get it synced...

This is not exchange for the rest of us, because exchange works. This is only a pathetically implemented scam. Im digusted.

This is ridiculous! Talk about false advertising. I'm really getting sick of Apple's marketing lately. They have been fabricating battery life for the past year, which is something they used to under-estimate, and the same false advertising existed for Back To My Mac (I have yet to try it under MobileMe, but will later today now that I was able to re login to my accounts on my computers).

[marksman]

I am glad I am in a 60 day free trial.

MobileMe is not shaping up to be something that will likely benefit me.

This just doesn't make any sense. Why are the windows on the computer so long? Seems like that would be the EASIEST one to do right away.

[Schweppy]

Thats not true!

I get emails pushed to my phone as soon as they arrive.

I think the syncing is only to do with contacts/calendar dates etc.

[vannibombonato]

Originally Posted by Schweppy

Thats not true!

I get emails pushed to my phone as soon as they arrive.

I think the syncing is only to do with contacts/calendar dates etc.

Are you serious or what?

Yes, it works between the iphone and the web server. If you change the calendar entry on your desktop application it does not work, you wont see it on your iphone or the web before you get lucky and the syncing process start.

Do you realize what they're doing is illegal? Do yo realize that they are still excplicitly showing on a video in their web site that if i change something on my desktop application it gets synced with the web and my iphone within seconds?

[zedsdead]

From Apple:

Push keeps contacts up to date.
Ever been on the road without an important phone number? With MobileMe, your contacts are pushed to all your devices and everything stays up to date. Make a change on your computer, and MobileMe updates your iPhone automatically. Likewise, when you make a change on your iPhone, it’s instantly pushed to your computer.

From the Cal section:
Changes you make are instantly pushed to all your devices so you’re always up to date.

[marksman]

Originally Posted by zedsdead

From Apple:

Push keeps contacts up to date.
Ever been on the road without an important phone number? With MobileMe, your contacts are pushed to all your devices and everything stays up to date. Make a change on your computer, and MobileMe updates your iPhone automatically. Likewise, when you make a change on your iPhone, it’s instantly pushed to your computer.

From the Cal section:
Changes you make are instantly pushed to all your devices so you’re always up to date.

The horrible thing about both those quotes is they are technically true.

The first one only says "automatically" which it does automatically do it every 15 or 60 minutes.

The second one says pushes to all your devices instantly, meaning from .Me you can push to your phone, your computer etc at once. It does not say that you can push from your devices instantly.

I don't really understand this to be honest. Hopefully they are screwed up, have plans to fix this and make some kind of announcement.

[Schweppy]

Originally Posted by vannibombonato

Are you serious or what?

Yes, it works between the iphone and the web server. If you change the calendar entry on your desktop application it does not work, you wont see it on your iphone or the web before you get lucky and the syncing process start.

Do you realize what they're doing is illegal? Do yo realize that they are still excplicitly showing on a video in their web site that if i change something on my desktop application it gets synced with the web and my iphone within seconds?

Yes, you are correct about contacts, calendar entries, etc.

But emails DO push instantly...

[vannibombonato]

Originally Posted by Schweppy

Yes, you are correct about contacts, calendar entries, etc.

But emails DO push instantly...

Say you go into a restaurant and
1- order apasta, a steak, and icecream
2- you're only served the icecream
3- A smiling waiter present you the full bill

What do you do? Pay for everything and go around saying how wonderful was your icecream?

[zedsdead]

Originally Posted by Schweppy

Yes, you are correct about contacts, calendar entries, etc.

But emails DO push instantly...

Your not honestly trying to justify this are you. Apple lied, blatantly.

[e.m.]

Originally Posted by Schweppy

Yes, you are correct about contacts, calendar entries, etc.

But emails DO push instantly...

Email only push to the iPhone. Not to the Mac. Not sure if this is something that's going to be fixed in the future.

I think the above is upsetting in itself, but what we're angry about here is that according to the knowledge base article linked above, push anything will never happen from the Mac because it's not a supported feature, even though they led us to believe that it will be.

[scotty96LSC]

Originally Posted by Schweppy

Thats not true!

I get emails pushed to my phone as soon as they arrive.

I think the syncing is only to do with contacts/calendar dates etc.

I find the same is true. Mail comes in -- boom -- right to my iPod touch and me.com account. Calendars and contacts longer.

[Wild-Bill]

The epic fail continues....

At WWDC Steve himself demo'd changing a calendar event on an iMac and then showed it appearing within a few seconds on the iPhone. Reality Distortion Field in full effect.

Straight from the Apple link provided by the OP: "Changes made on your computer will be synced to the MobileMe "cloud" once every 15 minutes (or every hour in Mac OS X 10.4.11)"

Over advertising and underperforming. I, for one, won't be renewing my "MobileMeh...." subscription.

[zedsdead]

Originally Posted by Wild-Bill

The epic fail continues....

At WWDC Steve himself demo'd changing a calendar event on an iMac and then showed it appearing within a few seconds on the iPhone. Reality Distortion Field in full effect.

Straight from the Apple link provided by the OP: "Changes made on your computer will be synced to the MobileMe "cloud" once every 15 minutes (or every hour in Mac OS X 10.4.11)"

Over advertising and underperforming. I, for one, won't be renewing my "MobileMeh...." subscription.

Steve didn't demo MobileMe, Phil Shiller did, and he never used the desktop apps...only Me.com, which does work.

Either way, I agree with you, the marketing and the Apple Website say otherwise, and this is a sham, or it simply didn't work like they hopped.

[Stratguy]

Originally Posted by vannibombonato

Also i wonder what happens if, say, i change a calendar entry in my ical desktop app 1 minute before going out of home, then shut down the computer. Guess what? Unfortunately i wasnt lucky enough to get it synced...

I have the status of MobileMe in the menubar, so when I need to go somewhere, I click on "sync now" in the drop down menu just before I go and everything is synced, just like Time Machine. I know it's not ideal but at least you don't get caught out.

[mwp98223]

Originally Posted by Stratguy

I have the status of MobileMe in the menubar, so when I need to go somewhere, I click on "sync now" in the drop down menu just before I go and everything is synced, just like Time Machine. I know it's not ideal but at least you don't get caught out.

Super for you, but that is NOT what Apple is selling. You can also pull out your individual devices and make sure you have made accurate entries on all your devices before you go out too, but that is NOT automatic/push syncing.

There is simply no basis to justify today ANY interval of synching when Apple clearly sold us automatic INSTANT syncing.

[Advance The Man]

This is an issue for me purchasing. I have 10.4.11, which the apple support page indicates MobileMe will update once an hour. I was under the impression that it was immediate. Since I will be sharing a calendar with spouse, PUSH is the reason I would be buying. I am waiting till hear more feedback such as this before plunging. Thanks for the info.

Originally Posted by vannibombonato

Dears,
just to let you know that the Push between desktop apps and the infamous cloud simply does not exist.

http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1155

The "automatic, instantly" that was advertised is simply a 15 minutes interval syncing between your mac and the redicolous cloud. I dont know how can this legally be possible with what they have shown in the keynote, shown in the guided tour video, and sold for 99 bucks.

Also i wonder what happens if, say, i change a calendar entry in my ical desktop app 1 minute before going out of home, then shut down the computer. Guess what? Unfortunately i wasnt lucky enough to get it synced...

This is not exchange for the rest of us, because exchange works. This is only a pathetically implemented scam. Im digusted.

[hexonxonx]

I just deleted a contact on MobileMe and within 15 seconds, I watched it automatically get deleted from my iPhone.

I then added two events on my calender for today on my iPhone. They were synced to my calender in MobileMe instantly as well. I didn't have to sync or anything, it was all done automatically within seconds.

I don't understand how this is not Push Calender and contacts?

[zedsdead]

Originally Posted by hexonxonx

I just deleted a contact on MobileMe and within 15 seconds, I watched it automatically get deleted from my iPhone.

I then added two events on my calender for today on my iPhone. They were synced to my calender in MobileMe instantly as well. I didn't have to sync or anything, it was all done automatically within seconds.

I don't understand how this is not Push Calender and contacts?

No one is saying that push between MobileMe and the iPhone is not working.

This is strictly between the Computer and MobileMe. Add something in iCal...it won't appear until your computer is forced to Sync.

[hexonxonx]

Originally Posted by zedsdead

No one is saying that push between MobileMe and the iPhone is not working.

This is strictly between the Computer and MobileMe. Add something in iCal...it won't appear until your computer is forced to Sync.

I see. The push working between my iPhone and MobileMe is why I bought MobileMe. I don't care if it doesn't work the same way for my computers.

[hexonxonx]

Originally Posted by bmk

That's not very friendly. Next time you come here for advice about an iPhone how'd you like it if I said 'I don't care about your problem because I don't have an iPhone'?

I didn't say I don't care that it doesn't work for you, I'm just saying it works for my purposes which is why I bought it.

[Apple Ink]

About email.... emails are a different thing. They have completely different servers from them and pushing emails is not such a big deal.

Whats big is that I watched the WWDC Keynote and the MMe guided tour. Both showed it crystal clear that desktop apps WILL PUSH! I'm waiting for another week. If this still persists, well Its gonna be war!

I didn't pay 99$ for this untruthful crap....

[macbookairman]

the way I see this is that Apple is still going to have push from computer to MM and devices. It's just not working now, so they posted a support article about how to make it work (kinda) temporarily while they try to find a solution to it. I don't think they are deliberately holding back on that feature. But hey, what do I know?
I agree with Stix, I think before it works right, iCal, Address Book and other apps will need updates.

[Willis]

slightly annoying to say the least.

my mail doesnt like to push to my iphone. not sure why, but it doesnt.

Not doing the best of jobs at the moment Apple.

[scotty321]

Apple fu**ing lied to all of us!

And they are BLATANTLY LYING ON THEIR WEBSITE IN ALL OF THEIR MARKETING & GUIDED TOUR VIDEOS!!!

If you make a change to a contact or a calendar entry on your Mac, and then you put your Mac to sleep immediately, that change will NOT BE SEEN ON ANY OTHER DEVICE because the 15-minute interval hasn't passed.

APPLE, THIS IS NOT *PUSH* CALENDAR & CONTACTS! YOU ARE LIARS!!! YOU HAVE LIED TO ALL OF US!

This is actually FALSE ADVERTISING -- does anybody smell a class action lawsuit here?

Steve Jobs, you are a LIAR!