Apple Sues Psystar

Ratboy · Jul 15, 2008, 10:14 AM

We all knew the time was going to come: Apple Sues Mac Clone Maker Psystar

dbam987 · Jul 15, 2008, 10:19 AM

I'm shocked that it didn't happen sooner. I bet that Psystar planned for such an attempt, and has a battle plan to win out the court case. I bet the people at Psystar think they'll win the legal battle in some way, shape, or form. Then Apple will be sued for illegally limiting people from installing OSX on anything other than Apple hardware.

Edit: I would love the ability to install OSX on my desktop legally. Maybe some good will come out of this.

Tallest Skil · Jul 15, 2008, 10:20 AM

HECK, YEAH! Put them in their place!

Woe to thee, Psystar... the Hounds of Cupertino have come!

richard.mac · Jul 15, 2008, 10:21 AM

HOORAY! [jumps and claps pincers]

mrwizardno2 · Jul 15, 2008, 10:21 AM

No surprise here. I'm just curious to see how it all pans out. Like dbam, I'm anxious to see how the EULA holds up... or if it doesn't.

edesignuk · Jul 15, 2008, 10:22 AM

That's the end of them then....bit of a shame, really.

sananda · Jul 15, 2008, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbam987

I bet that Psystar planned for such an attempt, and has a battle plan to win out the court case.

hatched in their shed with their cousin's friend who almost got into law school.

AdeFowler · Jul 15, 2008, 10:23 AM

It was only a matter of time. I'd guess it's taken so long as Apple Legal have been making sure their case is bullet proof..... we'll see.

himansk · Jul 15, 2008, 10:24 AM

I dont think Psystar would have sold enough clones (or at least earned a considerable margin from the sales) to finance a legal assault from apple.

richard.mac · Jul 15, 2008, 10:25 AM

^ well if Apple lost they would loose their license agreement for Mac OS X and it would then be legal to install on non Apple hardware.

Blue Velvet · Jul 15, 2008, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbam987

I bet that Psystar planned for such an attempt, and has a battle plan to win out the court case. I bet the people at Psystar think they'll win the legal battle in some way, shape, or form. Then Apple will be sued for illegally limiting people from installing OSX on anything other than Apple hardware.

I bet they didn't. And it's not illegal to place restrictions on how you want your software to be used, otherwise Apple's EULA would have been shredded years ago. I would also bet that the legal resources available to Apple are far more thorough and mindful than anything Psystar can muster. Watch them fold.

sushi · Jul 15, 2008, 10:31 AM

We expected this to happen.

Doesn't look good for Psystar.

They probably won't be around much longer.

dbam987 · Jul 15, 2008, 10:39 AM

Maybe Apple will realize that people do want an option other than Windows and open up OSX to other hardware vendors. Then again, it would mean that Apple hardware sales will drop a bit since it is generally more expensive to get a Mac than it is to get a PC of comparable hardware.

The way I see it is that Apple will win big if OSX is allowed to be run on non-Apple hardware. I've been looking at getting a desktop with OSX but can't justify (yet) the need to pay $2800 for the Mac Pro until my rendering needs require the power of a server grade machine.

OSX has grown up big time over the past few years, where people who have used Windows for 10 or more years are itching to switch or have switched to OSX. The software base is growing, with a bunch of applications written for OSX are sprouting up like wildfire... I'm starting to think this is just a pipe-dream of mine.

macworkerbee · Jul 15, 2008, 10:43 AM

Maybe Apple was just waiting for them to make enough money to sue (no Apple would never behave like that!

)

himansk · Jul 15, 2008, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbam987

Maybe Apple will realize that people do want an option other than Windows and open up OSX to other hardware vendors. Then again, it would mean that Apple hardware sales will drop a bit since it is generally more expensive to get a Mac than it is to get a PC of comparable hardware.

The way I see it is that Apple will win big if OSX is allowed to be run on non-Apple hardware. I've been looking at getting a desktop with OSX but can't justify (yet) the need to pay $2800 for the Mac Pro until my rendering needs require the power of a server grade machine.

OSX has grown up big time over the past few years, where people who have used Windows for 10 or more years are itching to switch or have switched to OSX. The software base is growing, with a bunch of applications written for OSX are sprouting up like wildfire... I'm starting to think this is just a pipe-dream of mine.

Dont hold your breath waiting for an OSX for PCs from APPLE

Much Ado · Jul 15, 2008, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by himansk

I dont think Psystar would have sold enough clones (or at least earned a considerable margin from the sales) to finance a legal assault from apple.

True. This might end up being a win-by-default situation for Apple.

Psystar need to close, pay some damages and run. No point in fighting.

m1stake · Jul 15, 2008, 10:51 AM

Moral: Don't make crappy computers, allow your customers to install OSX themselves (Kind of like on the, uh, Mac), and don't cross legal lines with big companies that don't like you.

sushi · Jul 15, 2008, 10:56 AM

Doubt we will see Mac OS X running on anything but Apple hardware for the time being. Apple makes money through hardware sales. Software is there to sell the hardware.

Besides, why would Apple want to change their current mode of operation with their current growth rate? This is especially true considering the additional hardware issues they would need to address if they allowed the Mac OS X to run on all current Windows hardware. Not going to happen.

dbam987 · Jul 15, 2008, 11:06 AM

Apple doesn't necessarily have to be the one to maintain the 3rd party hardware vendors. They just need to provide a model to develop against. Microsoft gave hardware vendors a model to develop against. When Vista shipped, many vendors dropped the ball because they didn't release updated drivers in time for it, which boggles the mind because they had ample time to do so (NVidia is a big culprit of this; ATI had good, stable driver for Vista shortly after launch).

tmelvin · Jul 15, 2008, 11:13 AM

LOL...Apple's pockets are too deep. There's no way Psystar can afford a long legal battle. Apple will just drain them, and drag it out until they go bankrupt.

I never thought it would work...

tmelvin · Jul 15, 2008, 11:21 AM

LOL...Apple's pockets are too deep. There's no way Psystar can afford a long legal battle. Apple will just drain them, and drag it out until they go bankrupt.

I never thought it would work...

himansk · Jul 15, 2008, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbam987

Apple doesn't necessarily have to be the one to maintain the 3rd party hardware vendors. They just need to provide a model to develop against. Microsoft gave hardware vendors a model to develop against. When Vista shipped, many vendors dropped the ball because they didn't release updated drivers in time for it, which boggles the mind because they had ample time to do so (NVidia is a big culprit of this; ATI had good, stable driver for Vista shortly after launch).

So when the same happens to PC running OSX, Apple gets blamed instead of the vendors, much like Vista & Microsoft were blamed. I dont think apple need that, they already have a VERY profitable business without the PC OSX. OSX adds value to apple hardware, and it works with their whole philosophy of "it just works".

yellow · Jul 15, 2008, 12:44 PM

"Official" thread is here:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=522700

Continue there. Thanks.

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Ratboy macrumors member Join Date: Feb 2002	Apple Sues Psystar We all knew the time was going to come: Apple Sues Mac Clone Maker Psystar
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Jul 15, 2008, 10:19 AM	#2
dbam987 macrumors regular Join Date: Aug 2007	I'm... shocked. I'm shocked that it didn't happen sooner. I bet that Psystar planned for such an attempt, and has a battle plan to win out the court case. I bet the people at Psystar think they'll win the legal battle in some way, shape, or form. Then Apple will be sued for illegally limiting people from installing OSX on anything other than Apple hardware. Edit: I would love the ability to install OSX on my desktop legally. Maybe some good will come out of this. __________________ MacBook Pro 13 (Mid-2012) \| Warp Speed Enabled
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richard.mac macrumors 603 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: 51.50024, -0.12662	HOORAY! [jumps and claps pincers] __________________ http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/4894/haxe.png If you can't innovate, I guess you just imitate, but it's never quite as good as the original.
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Jul 15, 2008, 10:21 AM	#5
mrwizardno2 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jun 2007	No surprise here. I'm just curious to see how it all pans out. Like dbam, I'm anxious to see how the EULA holds up... or if it doesn't. __________________ 2.4GHz SR MacBook Pro / Matte / 4 GB ram
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Jul 15, 2008, 10:22 AM	#6
edesignuk Demi-God (Moderator emeritus) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: London, England	That's the end of them then....bit of a shame, really. __________________
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Jul 15, 2008, 10:20 AM	#3
Tallest Skil Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: 1 Geostationary Tower Plaza	HECK, YEAH! Put them in their place! Woe to thee, Psystar... the Hounds of Cupertino have come!
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Jul 15, 2008, 10:23 AM	#8
AdeFowler macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: England	It was only a matter of time. I'd guess it's taken so long as Apple Legal have been making sure their case is bullet proof..... we'll see. __________________ 15” 2012 MacBook Pro \| Mac Pro 6-core \| 30” ACD 64gb 3g iPad and an iPod or two
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Jul 15, 2008, 10:24 AM	#9
himansk macrumors regular Join Date: Oct 2006	I dont think Psystar would have sold enough clones (or at least earned a considerable margin from the sales) to finance a legal assault from apple. __________________ retinaMacbookPro 2.6GHz, 16GB RAM, 256GB SSD iPhone4 32GB
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Jul 15, 2008, 10:25 AM	#10
richard.mac macrumors 603 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: 51.50024, -0.12662	^ well if Apple lost they would loose their license agreement for Mac OS X and it would then be legal to install on non Apple hardware. __________________ http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/4894/haxe.png If you can't innovate, I guess you just imitate, but it's never quite as good as the original.
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Jul 15, 2008, 10:31 AM	#12
sushi Demi-God (Moderator) Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: キャンプスワンピー [Japan]	We expected this to happen. Doesn't look good for Psystar. They probably won't be around much longer.
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Jul 15, 2008, 10:39 AM	#13
dbam987 macrumors regular Join Date: Aug 2007	Maybe Apple will... Maybe Apple will realize that people do want an option other than Windows and open up OSX to other hardware vendors. Then again, it would mean that Apple hardware sales will drop a bit since it is generally more expensive to get a Mac than it is to get a PC of comparable hardware. The way I see it is that Apple will win big if OSX is allowed to be run on non-Apple hardware. I've been looking at getting a desktop with OSX but can't justify (yet) the need to pay $2800 for the Mac Pro until my rendering needs require the power of a server grade machine. OSX has grown up big time over the past few years, where people who have used Windows for 10 or more years are itching to switch or have switched to OSX. The software base is growing, with a bunch of applications written for OSX are sprouting up like wildfire... I'm starting to think this is just a pipe-dream of mine. __________________ MacBook Pro 13 (Mid-2012) \| Warp Speed Enabled
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Jul 15, 2008, 10:43 AM	#14
macworkerbee macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jun 2008	Maybe Apple was just waiting for them to make enough money to sue (no Apple would never behave like that! )
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Jul 15, 2008, 10:51 AM	#17
m1stake macrumors 68000 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Philly	Moral: Don't make crappy computers, allow your customers to install OSX themselves (Kind of like on the, uh, Mac), and don't cross legal lines with big companies that don't like you. __________________ UMBP/2.4/9600GT/4GB/160GB X25-M iPhone 4/16GB/Black
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Jul 15, 2008, 10:56 AM	#18
sushi Demi-God (Moderator) Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: キャンプスワンピー [Japan]	Doubt we will see Mac OS X running on anything but Apple hardware for the time being. Apple makes money through hardware sales. Software is there to sell the hardware. Besides, why would Apple want to change their current mode of operation with their current growth rate? This is especially true considering the additional hardware issues they would need to address if they allowed the Mac OS X to run on all current Windows hardware. Not going to happen.
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Jul 15, 2008, 11:06 AM	#19
dbam987 macrumors regular Join Date: Aug 2007	Apple doesn't necessarily have to be the one to maintain the 3rd party hardware vendors. They just need to provide a model to develop against. Microsoft gave hardware vendors a model to develop against. When Vista shipped, many vendors dropped the ball because they didn't release updated drivers in time for it, which boggles the mind because they had ample time to do so (NVidia is a big culprit of this; ATI had good, stable driver for Vista shortly after launch). __________________ MacBook Pro 13 (Mid-2012) \| Warp Speed Enabled
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Jul 15, 2008, 11:13 AM	#20
tmelvin Banned Join Date: Mar 2008	LOL...Apple's pockets are too deep. There's no way Psystar can afford a long legal battle. Apple will just drain them, and drag it out until they go bankrupt. I never thought it would work...
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Jul 15, 2008, 11:21 AM	#21
tmelvin Banned Join Date: Mar 2008	LOL...Apple's pockets are too deep. There's no way Psystar can afford a long legal battle. Apple will just drain them, and drag it out until they go bankrupt. I never thought it would work...
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Jul 15, 2008, 12:44 PM	#23
yellow Demi-God (Moderator) Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: I love you, food.	"Official" thread is here: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=522700 Continue there. Thanks. __________________ WWJS: What would Jesus shoot? TRGCS
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