Apple Seeds Mac OS X 10.5.5 (9F5)

MacRumors · Jul 31, 2008, 08:43 PM

Apple has seeded the first version of Mac OS X 10.5.5 (Build 9F5) to developers tonight. This is the first new seed of Mac OS X since the released of Mac OS X 10.5.4 on June 30th.

Apple instructs developers to focus on testing a number of areas including Time Machine, AirPort, Networking, Spotlight, and many others. Apple details over 83 other bug fixes and issues addressed including a few potential kernel panic scenarios.

At this early stage, there appear to be some major issues as Apple warns developers not to install this seed on the MacBook Air, MacBook, Mac Mini, iMac (with Intel integrated graphics).

Article Link

acvball92 · Jul 31, 2008, 08:44 PM

sweet

scotty96LSC · Jul 31, 2008, 08:46 PM

This will just make this OS even better. Good news.

derryquinn · Jul 31, 2008, 08:49 PM

Not to be installed on those because....they're getting graphics updates?

Also, i hope this makes Safari Snappier, and also that iPhone OS 2.1 makes MobileSafari Zoomier

mike12806 · Jul 31, 2008, 08:51 PM

I wonder if anyone can find any hints about product revisions??? I know it's not likely in an OS update release but, maybe ???

Tallest Skil · Jul 31, 2008, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by derryquinn

not to be installed on those because....they're getting updates?

Try, they're the ones NOT getting updates. Apple wouldn't spend money updating the 17" iMac anymore...

Yes, they still sell 17" iMacs.

ro2nie · Jul 31, 2008, 08:51 PM

Nice...

InkMaster · Jul 31, 2008, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike12806

I wonder if anyone can find any hints about product revisions??? I know it's not likely in an OS update release but, maybe ???

If anything there will be an update for the new hardware and for now they're throwing out all the integrated graphics drivers to not reveal the new chips that will be in the new macbooks

Shasterball · Jul 31, 2008, 09:15 PM

So what can they install the beta on?

smartalic34 · Jul 31, 2008, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shasterball

So what can they install the beta on?

macbook pro. mac pro

JML42691 · Jul 31, 2008, 09:23 PM

I am wondering why they would restrict the update from computers with the Integrated Graphics, is there a change that will improve them that Apple hasn't completed yet, or is it something simple like they haven't built in the drivers for it into the beta yet? I guess we will have to see.

One thing that I am hoping that they fix in 10.5.5 is finally smoothing out the grid graphics for large grids (like the Applications folder). The animation has always been choppy and slow since 10.5(.0), and the best that they have done to improve it is making it equally choppy throughout, and not random. I am hoping that this is finally fixed here, it can't be all that difficult of a fix, can it?

Tallest Skil · Jul 31, 2008, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smartalic34

macbook pro. mac pro

All the iMacs except the current 17"...

Peace · Jul 31, 2008, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tallest Skil

All the iMacs except the current 17"...

Basically any Mac without integrated graphics.

This tells me had they included the drivers for integrated graphics it would have shown new products that use integrated graphics. Something Apple often does. There's a new product that uses integrated graphics coming out soon.

Tallest Skil · Jul 31, 2008, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peace

There's a new product that uses integrated graphics coming out soon.

The new MacBook. x4500.

Joe The Dragon · Jul 31, 2008, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peace

Basically any Mac without integrated graphics.

This tells me had they included the drivers for integrated graphics it would have shown new products that use integrated graphics. Something Apple often does. There's a new product that uses integrated graphics coming out soon.

or some new thing brakes the intel driver or dose not like video ram mapped to the system ram pool.

Axemantitan · Jul 31, 2008, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peace

Basically any Mac without integrated graphics.

This tells me had they included the drivers for integrated graphics it would have shown new products that use integrated graphics. Something Apple often does. There's a new product that uses integrated graphics coming out soon.

That's too bad. I was hoping that this meant the end of integrated graphics.

Yvan256 · Jul 31, 2008, 10:52 PM

Oh wait, wrong year...

At least they do mention the Mac mini, which is the most Apple has done in the last two years or so (aside from CPU speed/hard drive capacity bumps).

We're still on the GMA950, which was already pathetic when the Mac mini switched to intel.

Mac nano with X4500 next tuesday?

Kar98 · Jul 31, 2008, 11:26 PM

Will it make Mail/Notes work again?

fleshman03 · Jul 31, 2008, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InkMaster

If anything there will be an update for the new hardware and for now they're throwing out all the integrated graphics drivers to not reveal the new chips that will be in the new macbooks

My thought exactly. Only time will tell.

oticon6 · Aug 1, 2008, 12:19 AM

Has anyone here suffered KPs from the AD2P driver? It's about the only instability my system has, but it happens often. Hoping 10.5.5 fixes this... getting sick of sending crash reports with the same information every time.

darthraige · Aug 1, 2008, 12:28 AM

Every time I have Time Machine backup, on the 3rd time it tries to back up it freezes. Not the computer, just Time Machine. The icon just keeps spinning up on the menu bar. Hopefully this update fixes that. So annoying.

ltcol266845 · Aug 1, 2008, 12:31 AM

I like that they are addressing issues with some kernel panics... 90% of the time that I unplug a mouse from my MBPs USB port, I get a kernel panic.

SandynJosh · Aug 1, 2008, 01:06 AM

Maybe they are trying some early tricks with using the graphics processors and the MacBook Air, MacBook, Mac Mini, iMac (with Intel integrated graphics) don't have GPUs so why bother?

shyataroo · Aug 1, 2008, 01:15 AM

They had better put 256 color support back. *curses my inability to play StarCrack/Diabolically Addicting*

motulist · Aug 1, 2008, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shyataroo

They had better put 256 color support back. *curses my inability to play StarCrack/Diabolically Addicting*

Just use a mac emulator on your mac to run games or programs that require older versions of the Mac OS.

Jul 31, 2008, 08:43 PM	#1
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Shasterball macrumors 6502a Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NYC	So what can they install the beta on?

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JML42691 macrumors 68000 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Durham, NH	I am wondering why they would restrict the update from computers with the Integrated Graphics, is there a change that will improve them that Apple hasn't completed yet, or is it something simple like they haven't built in the drivers for it into the beta yet? I guess we will have to see. One thing that I am hoping that they fix in 10.5.5 is finally smoothing out the grid graphics for large grids (like the Applications folder). The animation has always been choppy and slow since 10.5(.0), and the best that they have done to improve it is making it equally choppy throughout, and not random. I am hoping that this is finally fixed here, it can't be all that difficult of a fix, can it? __________________ Current: White MacBook 2.2 GHz (late-2007) ; 8GB iPod touch (1st-gen) : Setup Pics Soon: Mighty Mouse

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Yvan256 macrumors 68040 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canada	PowerBook G5 next tuesday! Oh wait, wrong year... At least they do mention the Mac mini, which is the most Apple has done in the last two years or so (aside from CPU speed/hard drive capacity bumps). We're still on the GMA950, which was already pathetic when the Mac mini switched to intel. Mac nano with X4500 next tuesday? __________________ Mac mini Core 2 Duo 1.83 GHz/2.5 GiB, Mac mini G4 1.42 GHz/1 GiB, 12" PowerBook G4 1.5 GHz/512 MiB, iPod touch 16 GiB, silver iPod shuffle 1 GiB.

Jul 31, 2008, 11:26 PM	#18
Kar98 macrumors 6502 Join Date: Feb 2007	Will it make Mail/Notes work again?

Aug 1, 2008, 12:19 AM	#20
oticon6 macrumors regular Join Date: Feb 2008	Has anyone here suffered KPs from the AD2P driver? It's about the only instability my system has, but it happens often. Hoping 10.5.5 fixes this... getting sick of sending crash reports with the same information every time.

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darthraige macrumors 65816 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Boston, MA	Every time I have Time Machine backup, on the 3rd time it tries to back up it freezes. Not the computer, just Time Machine. The icon just keeps spinning up on the menu bar. Hopefully this update fixes that. So annoying. __________________ MacPro 2 x 2.8GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon "Harpertown" 6GB RAM, 4TB, 2600XT, 1 SuperDrive, 1 Blu-Ray Burner MacBook 2.16GHz Intel Core 2 Duo

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ltcol266845 macrumors regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Elgin, IL	I like that they are addressing issues with some kernel panics... 90% of the time that I unplug a mouse from my MBPs USB port, I get a kernel panic.

Aug 1, 2008, 01:06 AM	#23
SandynJosh macrumors 6502 Join Date: Oct 2006	Maybe they are trying some early tricks with using the graphics processors and the MacBook Air, MacBook, Mac Mini, iMac (with Intel integrated graphics) don't have GPUs so why bother?

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