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Old Jan 15, 2004, 08:09 AM   #1
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Logic Pro 6, Logic Express and Soundtrack 1.2

Digital Pro Sound offers details on new products to be announced by Apple today at NAMM.

Logic Pro 6 - "incorporates all of the Logic line of technologies into a single package", including "Guitar Amp" and "Sculpture" for $999.

Logic Express - a mid-range product, akin to Final Cut Express, which for $299.

Soundtrack 1.2 - Price drop (as rumored) to $199 (from $299) and MIDI support and custom loop creation.

More details will be available at Apple.com
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Old Jan 15, 2004, 08:14 AM   #2
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Yay!

A Soundtrack price drop! Oh wait, I just want GarageBand for $49 now. Oops.
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Old Jan 15, 2004, 08:14 AM   #3
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Old Jan 15, 2004, 08:17 AM   #4
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Suspected as much

I guess all the whiners of Garageband not having MIDI support and other pro-stuff gets what they really want also now...

Maybe we will someday learn to let things settle a bit before we attack Apple because they are not always doing as we want "right now"...
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Old Jan 15, 2004, 08:21 AM   #5
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"Year of the Music"?

GarageBand, Logic, Logic Express, Soundtrack, iPod, iPod mini, worldwide iTMS?

Well, my one worry with switching to Mac last year was entry level music creation software (i.e. lack of). Now there is GarageBand. That's on order. But if that's not good enough, now I can get Logic Express!! Hopefully it will only be £138 education (same as FCE) and I'll snap it up!
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Wonder if they'll have an "Up To Date" deal

I bought FCP 4 on 12/31/03, I wonder if I'll qualify for a free (+ shipping) up-to-date upgrade on Soundtrack 1.2.
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Old Jan 15, 2004, 08:42 AM   #7
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$199 is incredible for Soundtrack!
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Old Jan 15, 2004, 08:43 AM   #8
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Re: Wonder if they'll have an "Up To Date" deal

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I bought FCP 4 on 12/31/03, I wonder if I'll qualify for a free (+ shipping) up-to-date upgrade on Soundtrack 1.2.
soundtrack update 1.2 is a free download.

http://www.apple.com/soundtrack/download/

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Old Jan 15, 2004, 08:56 AM   #9
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what about logic gold users?

I wonder what will be the upgrade posibilities for logic gold users...

Also, I wonder. Are all the users of Logic Platinum now able to unlock all the extra AI and plugins? (Space Designer looks and the Guitar Modeler look so nice... )
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Old Jan 15, 2004, 09:05 AM   #10
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I feel confused, Logic, Logic express, soundtrack and garageband? If someone was just getting into digital composing, it would be clear that garageband is where they would start but what would be the next step? Soundtrack or Logic express?

I hope that eventually apple does what they did with the iMovie, FCE and FCP set. FCE can open iMovie files and FCP can open FCE files. This makes a clean transition for the growing artist.
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Confirmed on emagic.de

It's confirmed on emagic's homepage, so I guess it's not a rumor anymore .
I'm quite curious what happens to Logic Gold users, since I'm one of them. I hope I don't have to pay several hundreds of Euros/Dollars for an upgrade...

I noticed they really streamlined the product line: Basically emagic now only sells the two Logic packages and hardware. That's it. All the other, smaller products (effects, ...) seem to be packaged into Logic.

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Old Jan 15, 2004, 09:11 AM   #12
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I got Soundtrack as part of Final Cut Pro, and the update page says that I need to use the FCP updates page. However, when I enter my serial number it says I have already downloaded the update. I wonder if that database has not been updated to allow this latest update as opposed to the FCP 4.1 update. Is anyone else experiencing this situation?

Edit: It works through Software Update.

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Old Jan 15, 2004, 09:22 AM   #13
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It's in Software Update, you can avoid the screwy download page.
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Old Jan 15, 2004, 09:28 AM   #14
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Cripes, Apple is turning into... an audio software juggernaut!
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Old Jan 15, 2004, 09:32 AM   #15
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Talking 4 Audio Production Apps?

Good Lord! It definately does seem like "The year of the music!" Soundtrack and Logic Express seems almost like overkill. Logic sounds great. And then there is just me and my little GarageBand!
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Old Jan 15, 2004, 09:32 AM   #16
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Bummer you can't record in Soundtrack, the "upgrade" from GarageBand for $150 would be well worth it if it could do that.
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Old Jan 15, 2004, 09:37 AM   #17
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I feel confused, Logic, Logic express, soundtrack and garageband? If someone was just getting into digital composing, it would be clear that garageband is where they would start but what would be the next step? Soundtrack or Logic express?
Sountrack is for film soundtracks. This is the purpose of Sountrack's existence. Soundtrack's not really a 'pro' music app as far as musicians are concerned. It's for video editors who want to quickly string together loops in time to video footage. Logic has many more facets to it - MIDI editing for example. If you're making soundtracks and don't need the 'pro' musician features that Logic Pro offers, Soundtrack would be the way to go. If you're creating music with your band and you've grown out of GargeBand, you go to Logic.
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Old Jan 15, 2004, 09:39 AM   #18
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Woo-hoo... I posted "now if only we had Logic Express" in the GarageBand discussion, and whaddya know, it appears. Thank you Apple!
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Old Jan 15, 2004, 09:42 AM   #19
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Sountrack is for film soundtracks. This is the purpose of Sountrack's existence. Soundtrack's not really a 'pro' music app as far as musicians are concerned. It's for video editors who want to quickly string together loops in time to video footage. Logic has many more facets to it - MIDI editing for example. If you're making soundtracks and don't need the 'pro' musician features that Logic Pro offers, Soundtrack would be the way to go. If you're creating music with your band and you've grown out of GargeBand, you go to Logic.
All makes sense now, thanks macMaestro.
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Old Jan 15, 2004, 09:43 AM   #20
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Re: Re: Wonder if they'll have an "Up To Date" deal

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soundtrack 1.2 is a free download.

http://www.apple.com/soundtrack/download/
Just to clarify for somebody later... Soundtrack 1.2 Updater is a free download. Not Soundtrack 1.2. (I know that's what you meant but you know somebody here won't and will complain after they spent 5 days downloading on their 300 baud modem)
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Old Jan 15, 2004, 09:46 AM   #21
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Bummer you can't record in Soundtrack, the "upgrade" from GarageBand for $150 would be well worth it if it could do that.
You can still record audio. Soundtrack just doesn't do MIDI.

And to Freakk123, it's not overkill. Logic Express and Soundtrack serve two different low-end pro markets (Soundtracks and plain old music). GarageBand serves both consumer markets, and Logic Pro serves both high-end pro markets. In my mind at least it makes since.
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Old Jan 15, 2004, 09:49 AM   #22
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Awesome

I've been wrestling for months with "what to buy" for a simple home stuido. I was just about to buy an Mbox, but I got put off b¥ the latency of the USB interface and the then-incompatibility with Jaguar.

When Garageband was announced, it seemed like the perfect starting point, although I knew that I'd eventually want/need more.

So, now Garageband arrives tomorrow, and hopefully my existing audio interface and midi interface will be able to be used with Logic Express down the road.

This is awesome news.
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Old Jan 15, 2004, 10:06 AM   #23
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Let me get this right.

Soundtrack's update still will not do what Garageband will - connect a keyboard <correct>
Whereas
Garageband
Pro Logic Express
and Pro Logic will?
Garageband, Pro Logic Express are more alike and where
Pro Logic has everything from Garageband, Soundtrack and Pro Logic Express has....
It this correct?
(I saw the update for Soundtrack and was about to run to the store and buy a keyboard!)

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Old Jan 15, 2004, 10:08 AM   #24
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So it's now either Logic Pro for a grand or Express for 300 bucks? Eek, I like the old pricing much better. And I see on emagic's website that they are taking no credit for the change: "Apple Streamlines Logic Product Line".
Perhaps the little corporate takeover is starting to leave a bad taste in their mouth. I certainly don't like it.
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...I'm quite curious what happens to Logic Gold users, since I'm one of them...
Ditto. We have an XSKey for Gold here now. I have a bad feeling about this.

EDIT: It looks as though Logic Express is identical to the Logic Audio Big Box, with a $70 price increase. Seems they have simply removed Gold from the lineup.
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