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Old Sep 16, 2008, 10:39 PM   #1
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EFiX Allows Mac OS X to Boot on a PC



EFi-X is the latest commercial product to allow PCs to boot Mac OS X. A company called Psystar made headlines in April when it introduced their "Open Computer" which was build from generic PC parts which also allowed users to boot Mac OS X Leopard. Psystar advertised the computer as an affordable alternative to an official Apple Mac. Psystar would install a modified version of Mac OS X on their computers to allow them to boot into Apple's operating system. Apple has since sued the company citing copyright infringement.

EFi-X takes a different approach by offering a hardware add-on that allows you to install an unmodified Mac OS X onto certain PC configurations. EFi-X is offering it as a tool for enthusiasts, and not necessarily for those looking to save money:
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EFI-X™ is not for everyone. It is not for who wants to save money, at all. It is for enthusiasts that put expandability and extreme performances before anything else in their computing needs. We heard those voices, and we answered.
Only specific hardware configurations are supported, but if your PC fits those specifications, the EFi-X add-on promises headache free installation and upgrades.

Gizmodo reviews the EFi-X device and finds it lives up to its promises.
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Well, I used it to turn my gaming PC into a Mac Pro over the weekend, and I'm somewhat amazed to say this, but it works perfectly. I grabbed all the updates straight from Apple—including 10.5.5 last night, so you don't have to wait for a hacked patch like you would running a typical Hackintosh—installed a whole bunch of software and have been using it for several days. It runs beautifully, just like a real Mac Pro.
The installation requires you to plug the device straight into the motherboard, and upon boot does slow down the Leopard boot process (up to 2 minutes), but once up and running the experience is described as seamless. The product sells for $170 and is now shipping.


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Old Sep 16, 2008, 10:41 PM   #2
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Wonder if Apple will go after these people as well?
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Old Sep 16, 2008, 10:43 PM   #3
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Wonder if Apple will go after these people as well?
If they aren't screwing with the software, I cannot for the life of me see how, but I haven't read the EULA in awhile so I cannot say for sure. in any case, what an interesting approach, I am going to rate this positive.
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Old Sep 16, 2008, 10:45 PM   #4
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I'm amazed by Gizmodo's review. It sounds too good* to be true.


*How "good" it is depends on your perspective...
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Old Sep 16, 2008, 10:47 PM   #5
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So do Apple sue?
Or do we get the expandable desktop computer we have been begging for?

Money on door one?
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Old Sep 16, 2008, 10:50 PM   #6
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I just don't understand people's obsession with running OS X on PCs, especially if it's not saving money. ...Bragging rights I suppose.
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Old Sep 16, 2008, 10:52 PM   #7
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If they aren't screwing with the software, I cannot for the life of me see how, but I haven't read the EULA in awhile so I cannot say for sure. in any case, what an interesting approach, I am going to rate this positive.
True, but the device itself might contain Apple intellectual property.
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Old Sep 16, 2008, 10:52 PM   #8
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I just don't understand people's obsession with running OS X on PCs, especially if it's not saving money. ...Bragging rights I suppose.
Maybe because they like OS X, but don't have the funds for a Mac. I say this is a positive also.
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I just don't understand people's obsession with running OS X on PCs, especially if it's not saving money. ...Bragging rights I suppose.
It could be saving money if the cost of the machine is factored in. We all know that Macs are relatively expensive.
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Old Sep 16, 2008, 10:52 PM   #10
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I just don't understand people's obsession with running OS X on PCs, especially if it's not saving money. ...Bragging rights I suppose.
How could it not save money? You have no idea do you?

I could build a $3000 mac pro for $1200 tops.
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Old Sep 16, 2008, 10:53 PM   #11
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I am normally opposed to these sort of things because they usually boil down to cheapskates trying to run OSX on inferior, crummy hardware which degrades the Mac experience into something much worse. I have no use for those kinds of people.

But these folks don't seem to be like that. In fact, the stress that it's NOT about saving money. They have a much better attitude about it and seem to be doing it for the right reasons.

So, ok, I'm gonna say 'good luck' to 'em this time.
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Old Sep 16, 2008, 10:53 PM   #12
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That is craaazy. Especially when not saving money... Why bother
Besides if you want "Ultimate Performance" Get a Mac Pro...
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Old Sep 16, 2008, 10:54 PM   #13
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who knows...

With Apple's recent treatment of apps that don't seem to violate any rules but "compete" with them, I don't think it matters if there's anything against it in the EULA. I'm sure they'll find a reason to sue or at least stop the sale of it.
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Old Sep 16, 2008, 10:54 PM   #14
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The whole Mac package will always be a beautiful thing and will continue to sell because of it.

However, this product could be nice for people who are considering a Mac in the future, but are scared to go all in on a $2,000 machine without first getting familiar with the OS.
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Old Sep 16, 2008, 10:54 PM   #15
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Sorry, but I just have to fix this:

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A company called Psystar made headlines in April when it introduced its "Open Computer" which was built from generic PC parts which also allowed users to boot Mac OS X Leopard.
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Old Sep 16, 2008, 10:55 PM   #16
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The text in all of their pages say "blah blah blah" goes here. Such as "Support information goes here"

very slapped together website, and it seems its just vaporware anyway.
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Old Sep 16, 2008, 10:56 PM   #17
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Maybe because they like OS X, but don't have the funds for a Mac. I say this is a positive also.
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It could be saving money if the cost of the machine is factored in. We all know that Macs are relatively expensive.
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How could it not save money? You have no idea do you?

I could build a $3000 mac pro for $1200 tops.
Did you read the article?

Here it is again:
EFI-X™ is not for everyone. It is not for who wants to save money, at all.

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Old Sep 16, 2008, 10:57 PM   #18
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I never liked osx running on non apple branded computers.
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It could be saving money if the cost of the machine is factored in. We all know that Macs are relatively expensive.
Someone has to say it so I'll bite

They're not. Compare equivalent hardware between Apple and other name brands--looking at ALL the specs for an honest and complete comparison--and Macs are right in the same price range. Sometimes more than a given competitor, sometimes less.

What they ARE is:

a) More expensive than building your own or getting a cheap (for a reason) brand like an Acer. The same is true of Dell, HP, Sony, etc., so you can't call Macs relatively expensive on that basis. Rather, you should say that ALL name brand PCs are expensive. (Or even that any PC you didn't build at home is expensive.)

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b) Available in fewer configurations. So you might find a particular name-brand PC config that meets your needs for cheaper--but you have to admit that it does so by omitting some things. Things you don't personally want, so that's perfectly reasonable to take into account--but it doesn't make the Mac overpriced.

This new product addresses b) rather than any price difference between comparable Macs and PCs.
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Old Sep 16, 2008, 10:59 PM   #20
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If they are using this to side step an Apple EFI firmware check or have a modified EFI it to boot on a machine with the correct specs, my guess is Apple will sue for infringing on that code.

BTW, price has now dropped to $150 from $170.

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Old Sep 16, 2008, 10:59 PM   #21
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I just don't understand people's obsession with running OS X on PCs, especially if it's not saving money. ...Bragging rights I suppose.
What? I know EFiX hides behind the "we're not playing the cheap-Mac" game, likely to slow, if even a little bit, the stampeding of Apple's lawyers (also to avoid having any tech support) but Gizmodo built a sub-$800 computer in May (meaning it's probably about $400 now) that mostly trounces the 2.6GHz Mac Pro. Sounds like the money savings might be a perfectly valid reason to be "obsessed" with Hackintosh.
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Old Sep 16, 2008, 11:00 PM   #22
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It could be saving money if the cost of the machine is factored in. We all know that Macs are relatively expensive.
Sez who?

And don't give me that "I could build one" stuff. Building computers is a totally different game than buying one. I can fix my car for cheaper than my mechanic. That fact has NOTHING to do with comparing mechanic A with mechanic B, however. If we're comparing mechanics, I really don't care what you can do on your own.

So, who can you buy a pre-built computer from that's cheaper than Apple? 'Cause most of their machines are very competitive these days.
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There are far better alternatives for about $170 less....
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Am I correct in assuming that any user using this device would be violating Apple's EULA?
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Heck Psystar can just start installing these little gizmos into their Open Computer and their in business.
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