Push notifications "running a bit late"

pfish · Sep 24, 2008, 11:55 PM

Just for fun, I sent a small e-mail to sjobs inquiring if Push Notifications were still scheduled for September, and I got this back:

Quote:

From: Steve Jobs
Subject: Re: iPhone push notifications
Date: September 24, 2008 08:36:05 PM PDT
To: Me

We're running a bit late. We want to get it 100% right the first time.

Steve

Sent from my iPhone

AHDuke99 · Sep 25, 2008, 12:27 AM

Very nice. Just the latest delay from Apple. They've only had, what, 6 months to prepare it? I really want my IM apps to be useful soon. Then the phone would be perfect.

TuffLuffJimmy · Sep 25, 2008, 12:30 AM

meh. I'm dissapointed but not completely shocked or upset. I can wait. I really am just waiting to get live Twitter updates.

Rob Mclovin · Sep 25, 2008, 12:33 AM

Zomg, your friends with Steve Jobs.

lol, but lets hope they atleast release it at the end of this month.

TuffLuffJimmy · Sep 25, 2008, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Mclovin

Zomg, your friends with Steve Jobs.

lol, but lets hope they atleast release it at the end of this month.

so.... You don't understand what "late" means, I see.

AHDuke99 · Sep 25, 2008, 12:46 AM

Late probably means we'll be lucky to see it before Thanksgiving.

pavvento · Sep 25, 2008, 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AHDuke99

Very nice. Just the latest delay from Apple. They've only had, what, 6 months to prepare it? I really want my IM apps to be useful soon. Then the phone would be perfect.

Aside from Leopard's delay (announced over a year ago) what else have they delayed?

If they pushed it out the door tomorrow and it sucked i'm sure you'd be saying "Just the latest failed release from Apple. They've only had, what, 6 months to prepare it?"

Obviously I wish it was here like they said it would be, but sometimes this stuff is unpredictable. They probably got a late start on it because they've been spending so much time solving the 2.0 mess and the MobileMe mess.

When companies (or people for that matter) make statements it's assuming all goes well, there were things that happened that they didn't count on.

I, along with 99% of the world would rather have an iPhone without notifications than an iPhone that keeps freezing and re-starting.

QuarterSwede · Sep 25, 2008, 01:33 AM

All I know is that it wouldn't surprise me if we didn't see it for a while. Any time specialized servers are added to the mix problems always occur and are usually pretty hard to figure out.

I'm with pavvento, I'd rather have a working push notification service than one that screws the phone up ESPECIALLY since they just fixed it with 2.1.

AHDuke99 · Sep 25, 2008, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pavvento

Aside from Leopard's delay (announced over a year ago) what else have they delayed?

If they pushed it out the door tomorrow and it sucked i'm sure you'd be saying "Just the latest failed release from Apple. They've only had, what, 6 months to prepare it?"

Obviously I wish it was here like they said it would be, but sometimes this stuff is unpredictable. They probably got a late start on it because they've been spending so much time solving the 2.0 mess and the MobileMe mess.

When companies (or people for that matter) make statements it's assuming all goes well, there were things that happened that they didn't count on.

I, along with 99% of the world would rather have an iPhone without notifications than an iPhone that keeps freezing and re-starting.

What have the released on time? iPhone 2.0 was a month late. The iPhone SDK was delayed. Leopard was delayed. PUSH has been delayed. The AppStore was delayed. I actually can't think of something Apple has gotten out on time besides the iPhone 3G.

ntrigue · Sep 25, 2008, 02:13 AM

I wish there were a way to receive SMS in a push notification. I frequently cannot make/receive calls but can respond to SMS; it would be great to have Airplane Mode and get them over WiFi.

TuffLuffJimmy · Sep 25, 2008, 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AHDuke99

What have the released on time? iPhone 2.0 was a month late. The iPhone SDK was delayed. Leopard was delayed. PUSH has been delayed. The AppStore was delayed. I actually can't think of something Apple has gotten out on time besides the iPhone 3G.

wasn't the apple TV delayed too?

luigi408 · Sep 25, 2008, 03:03 AM

What is Steve Jobs email???

hellomoto4 · Sep 25, 2008, 03:07 AM

Yay I'm getting a Christmas present.

pfish · Sep 25, 2008, 03:35 AM

FWIW, it's not Steve himself replying. I'm sure there are many people that monitor that e-mail and reply accordingly.

ryanwarsaw · Sep 25, 2008, 04:22 AM

Can't say I am surprised. People will be calling for heads to roll on October 1st though.

The Phazer · Sep 25, 2008, 04:50 AM

I find it utterly baffling that Apple thinks it's good corporate communication for this to come out via a personal email from Steve.

They need to have a completely culture shift in how open they are about developing.

Phazer

rockstarjoe · Sep 25, 2008, 09:25 AM

If they hadn't unveiled the PUSH notification system in such a public way, and promised it by September, I think they would be able to take as long as they wanted. Now, though, they are under the gun to get it done at least somewhat promptly. I could see a month delay, but more than that makes them really look bad.

Having said that, though, I really hope they get it right.

TheSpaz · Sep 25, 2008, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockstarjoe

If they hadn't unveiled the PUSH notification system in such a public way, and promised it by September, I think they would be able to take as long as they wanted. Now, though, they are under the gun to get it done at least somewhat promptly. I could see a month delay, but more than that makes them really look bad.

Having said that, though, I really hope they get it right.

Maybe they were going to announce the Genius feature in January and decided not to.... hehe. When they don't announce it, it doesn't seem like you're waiting for it. However, we're all still waiting for copy and paste because all the other smart phones have it... come on Apple!!!

cellocello · Sep 25, 2008, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuarterSwede

All I know is that it wouldn't surprise me if we didn't see it for a while. Any time specialized servers are added to the mix problems always occur and are usually pretty hard to figure out.

I'm with pavvento, I'd rather have a working push notification service than one that screws the phone up ESPECIALLY since they just fixed it with 2.1.

Yup, I agree.

Honestly ... I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't get push until well into the winter.

deimos256 · Sep 25, 2008, 10:45 AM

better late than bugged

Jeremy1026 · Sep 25, 2008, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntrigue

I wish there were a way to receive SMS in a push notification. I frequently cannot make/receive calls but can respond to SMS; it would be great to have Airplane Mode and get them over WiFi.

Good luck with that, since Airplan Mode turns off WiFi too.

cellocello · Sep 25, 2008, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntrigue

I wish there were a way to receive SMS in a push notification. I frequently cannot make/receive calls but can respond to SMS; it would be great to have Airplane Mode and get them over WiFi.

Airplane mode would turn push off too ......

ProTip: Airplane mode (in essence) makes your iPhone an iPod Touch.

7on · Sep 25, 2008, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremy1026

Good luck with that, since Airplan Mode turns off WiFi too.

You can now turn it back on (in airplane mode) as of 2.0

Though SMS is a cell centric communication. Dunno how they could get it over WIFI without AT&T's intervention.

pavvento · Sep 25, 2008, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AHDuke99

What have the released on time? iPhone 2.0 was a month late. The iPhone SDK was delayed. Leopard was delayed. PUSH has been delayed. The AppStore was delayed. I actually can't think of something Apple has gotten out on time besides the iPhone 3G.

I do remember the SDK being delayed, but I do not remember Apple giving dates for 2.0 so i'm not sure how that was delayed. I also don't remember anything about the AppStore being delayed.

I do agree, if they are not going to make the September launch they should at least have a press release, since they made it public that it would launch.

macdim · Sep 25, 2008, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7on

You can now turn it back on (in airplane mode) as of 2.0

Though SMS is a cell centric communication. Dunno how they could get it over WIFI without AT&T's intervention.

I haven't been able to get push email from mobile me on wifi at all...

Sep 25, 2008, 12:30 AM	#3
TuffLuffJimmy macrumors 601 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Portland, OR	meh. I'm dissapointed but not completely shocked or upset. I can wait. I really am just waiting to get live Twitter updates. __________________ "Next PM I get from you about this, and it gets posted as my signature." --LTD

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QuarterSwede macrumors 68030 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Colorado Springs, CO	All I know is that it wouldn't surprise me if we didn't see it for a while. Any time specialized servers are added to the mix problems always occur and are usually pretty hard to figure out. I'm with pavvento, I'd rather have a working push notification service than one that screws the phone up ESPECIALLY since they just fixed it with 2.1. __________________ Help stop children from viewing internet pornography. What happened to all the great leaders?

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Sep 25, 2008, 12:27 AM	#2
AHDuke99 macrumors 65816 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Charleston, SC	Very nice. Just the latest delay from Apple. They've only had, what, 6 months to prepare it? I really want my IM apps to be useful soon. Then the phone would be perfect.

Sep 25, 2008, 12:33 AM	#4
Rob Mclovin macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jul 2008	Zomg, your friends with Steve Jobs. lol, but lets hope they atleast release it at the end of this month.

Sep 25, 2008, 12:46 AM	#6
AHDuke99 macrumors 65816 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Charleston, SC	Late probably means we'll be lucky to see it before Thanksgiving.

Sep 25, 2008, 02:13 AM	#10
ntrigue macrumors 68030 Join Date: Jul 2007	I wish there were a way to receive SMS in a push notification. I frequently cannot make/receive calls but can respond to SMS; it would be great to have Airplane Mode and get them over WiFi.

Sep 25, 2008, 03:03 AM	#12
luigi408 macrumors member Join Date: Jun 2008	What is Steve Jobs email???

Sep 25, 2008, 03:07 AM	#13
hellomoto4 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia	Yay I'm getting a Christmas present.

Sep 25, 2008, 03:35 AM	#14
pfish Thread Starter macrumors member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Sacramento Valley, CA	FWIW, it's not Steve himself replying. I'm sure there are many people that monitor that e-mail and reply accordingly.

Sep 25, 2008, 04:22 AM	#15
ryanwarsaw macrumors 6502a Join Date: Apr 2007	Can't say I am surprised. People will be calling for heads to roll on October 1st though.

Sep 25, 2008, 04:50 AM	#16
The Phazer macrumors 6502a Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: London, UK	I find it utterly baffling that Apple thinks it's good corporate communication for this to come out via a personal email from Steve. They need to have a completely culture shift in how open they are about developing. Phazer