Run App Store Apps in Background (Jailbreak Required)

svtguy08 · Oct 2, 2008, 01:34 PM

Well our concern, need, want has been answered. For all of you that are jailbroken, check out "Backgrounder".

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Totally sweet!

Niiro13 · Oct 2, 2008, 01:39 PM

Jailbroken?

I thought most of the jailbreak applications that need it already have background running.

svtguy08 · Oct 2, 2008, 01:44 PM

@ Niiro13

Not all jailbreak apps can run in the background after you exit them. The nice thing about Backgrounder is that it works for ANY app, appstore, installer or cydia!

I just installed it and had simplify, aol radio, tuner, pandora, and aim all running in the background (not all at the sametime, but one by one).

Sweetness if you ask me!

ilfn143 · Oct 2, 2008, 01:52 PM

make me want to jailbreak...

edka · Oct 2, 2008, 02:01 PM

man it works so nice with beejive, it get notified instantly when i get a message sweeeettt no need for Email notification looool

firewood · Oct 2, 2008, 02:16 PM

If anyone remembers the original Mac (128k), it couldn't background regular apps either. Then, after the 512k came out, Hertzfeld created Switcher which could rotate 3 (or maybe 4) running apps in and out of view. He later sold the idea or technology to Apple for integration into Multifinder, and eventually MacOS System 7.

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cere · 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firewood

If anyone remembers the original Mac (128k), it couldn't background regular apps either. Then, after the 512k came out, Hertzfeld created Switcher which could rotate 3 (or maybe 4) running apps in and out of view. He later sold the idea or technology to Apple for integration into Multifinder, and eventually MacOS System 7.

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I guess the biggest difference here is that the iPhone OS is already capable of multitasking. It was a conscious decision to not allow background apps, though not one I entirely agree with.

firewood · Oct 2, 2008, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cere

I guess the biggest difference here is that the iPhone OS is already capable of multitasking.

The OS might be capable, but the hardware limitations (single CPU, limited memory, no swap drive) could easily lead to bad user experiences.

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ajnicho · Oct 2, 2008, 03:22 PM

Lets you run apps in the background, fantastic for IM clients such as Beejive, alerts you and displays updated badge whist doing other things or in standby. Also good for things like tracking gps position etc.

Available on Cydia now via BigBoss repo

Doju · Oct 2, 2008, 03:37 PM

How do I add this to my iPhone? Add a source via Installer.app? What's the source?

HALP!

cere · Oct 2, 2008, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firewood

The OS might be capable, but the hardware limitations (single CPU, limited memory, no swap drive) could easily lead to bad user experiences.

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Battery life dropping to worse than it is now would also be a problem. The CPU is pretty capable, but memory limitations would become an issue.

Apple needs to get their Push API released ASAP. The entire argument against background apps was made with the expectation that Push would provide the functionality most apps run in the background for. Obviously there are other cases for background than just network notifications, but still, it is a minimum requirement for them to justify no background apps.

Niiro13 · 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svtguy08

@ Niiro13

Not all jailbreak apps can run in the background after you exit them. The nice thing about Backgrounder is that it works for ANY app, appstore, installer or cydia!

I just installed it and had simplify, aol radio, tuner, pandora, and aim all running in the background (not all at the sametime, but one by one).

Sweetness if you ask me!

omg...really?? App Store too?? I might consider actually getting this then. Would love to get IMs instantly from AIM (tbh, AIM has the best icon out of all the IMs). And of course flycast

. I'm almost annoyed that I bought BeeJive now :/.

I just assumed that jailbreak applications would run in the background ever since Insomnia's code was released. I know MobileChat 2.0 did (albeit it was 3 MB and kept crashing...).

fireshot91 · Oct 2, 2008, 04:18 PM

Do I gotta SSH into the iPhone? or do I just add a source in Cydia/Installer?

Doju · Oct 2, 2008, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fireshot91

Do I gotta SSH into the iPhone? or do I just add a source in Cydia/Installer?

Neither, just search for it in current Cydia.

Only thing I don't like: changes apps that it 'backgrounds' for icon to a square, ugly one.

svtguy08 · Oct 2, 2008, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doju

Neither, just search for it in current Cydia.

Only thing I don't like: changes apps that it 'backgrounds' for icon to a square, ugly one.

What square are you referring to? When I use backgrounder for pandora, tuner, simplify or beejive I don't get a square icon. Nothing changes except that it runs in the background while you are doing other stuff.

Doju · Oct 2, 2008, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svtguy08

What square are you referring to? When I use backgrounder for pandora, tuner, simplify or beejive I don't get a square icon. Nothing changes except that it runs in the background while you are doing other stuff.

http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik...cbf53f1dfac44e

Note the beehive icon at bottom-left. It took awhile to kick in.

iblastoff · Oct 2, 2008, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doju

http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik...cbf53f1dfac44e

Note the beehive icon at bottom-left. It took awhile to kick in.

did you seriously try to link something from your OWN email account?!?!?! wow.

Doju · Oct 2, 2008, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iblastoff

did you seriously try to link something from your OWN email account?!?!?! wow.

No, you did.

detz · Oct 2, 2008, 05:05 PM

I hope Apple never official allows background processes...it would be a nightmare.

fireshot91 · Oct 2, 2008, 05:09 PM

I don't have that in my Cydia..what's its source?

edit:nevermind just found it..

Niiro13 · Oct 2, 2008, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detz

I hope Apple never official allows background processes...it would be a nightmare.

There would be no reason for them to. Push covers all the notification applications. If they upgraded push to single request streaming, then that covers the radio applications which then would be about 90% of App Store.

Course that leaves out the stuff they can't cover like iTrail, etc...

fireshot91 · Oct 2, 2008, 05:14 PM

I still got a question, in AIM(computer), I signed on to my other SN, and it says that the SN that is linked to my iPhone is online, but when I IMed it it didn't give me a notification or anything on my iPhone, then when I clicked on the AIM app it THEN gave me the IM..how do I get it to give me a notification?

kerph32 · Oct 2, 2008, 05:27 PM

works beautifully! finally, pandora while playing a game

fireshot91 · Oct 2, 2008, 05:40 PM

How do I stay online on AIM and be able to get messages?

it says that I'm still online, but I can't receive message notifications

jcde7ago · Oct 2, 2008, 05:41 PM

This sounds awesome, especially for something like Beejive...but just like StatusNotifier, it would be hell on battery life...so i think i'll stay away for now

Do let us know though 1) how the battery life is and 2) if apps run even with the screen locked...

Oct 2, 2008, 01:34 PM	#1
svtguy08 macrumors newbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: CA	Apps Running in Background! Well our concern, need, want has been answered. For all of you that are jailbroken, check out "Backgrounder". GoogleCode Totally sweet! __________________ http://www.nukulrindustries.com ryan@nukulrindustries.com

Oct 2, 2008, 01:44 PM	#3
svtguy08 Thread Starter macrumors newbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: CA	@ Niiro13 Not all jailbreak apps can run in the background after you exit them. The nice thing about Backgrounder is that it works for ANY app, appstore, installer or cydia! I just installed it and had simplify, aol radio, tuner, pandora, and aim all running in the background (not all at the sametime, but one by one). Sweetness if you ask me! __________________ http://www.nukulrindustries.com ryan@nukulrindustries.com

Oct 2, 2008, 02:16 PM	#6
firewood macrumors 68000 Join Date: Jul 2003	If anyone remembers the original Mac (128k), it couldn't background regular apps either. Then, after the 512k came out, Hertzfeld created Switcher which could rotate 3 (or maybe 4) running apps in and out of view. He later sold the idea or technology to Apple for integration into Multifinder, and eventually MacOS System 7. . __________________ Apple II+, Mac 128k->512ke, Duo 210, MacBook Pro, white iPhone 3GS

Oct 2, 2008, 03:22 PM	#9
ajnicho macrumors 6502 Join Date: Sep 2008	Backgrounder now available in Cydia Lets you run apps in the background, fantastic for IM clients such as Beejive, alerts you and displays updated badge whist doing other things or in standby. Also good for things like tracking gps position etc. Available on Cydia now via BigBoss repo

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Oct 2, 2008, 01:39 PM	#2
Niiro13 macrumors 68000 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Illinois	Jailbroken? I thought most of the jailbreak applications that need it already have background running.

Oct 2, 2008, 01:52 PM	#4
ilfn143 macrumors 6502 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Enron by the Sea	make me want to jailbreak...

Oct 2, 2008, 02:01 PM	#5
edka macrumors member Join Date: May 2007	man it works so nice with beejive, it get notified instantly when i get a message sweeeettt no need for Email notification looool

Oct 2, 2008, 03:37 PM	#10
Doju macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jun 2008	How do I add this to my iPhone? Add a source via Installer.app? What's the source? HALP!

Oct 2, 2008, 04:18 PM	#13
fireshot91 macrumors 68040 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Lorton, VA	Do I gotta SSH into the iPhone? or do I just add a source in Cydia/Installer?

Oct 2, 2008, 05:05 PM	#19
detz macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jun 2007	I hope Apple never official allows background processes...it would be a nightmare.

Oct 2, 2008, 05:09 PM	#20
fireshot91 macrumors 68040 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Lorton, VA	I don't have that in my Cydia..what's its source? edit:nevermind just found it..

Oct 2, 2008, 05:14 PM	#22
fireshot91 macrumors 68040 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Lorton, VA	I still got a question, in AIM(computer), I signed on to my other SN, and it says that the SN that is linked to my iPhone is online, but when I IMed it it didn't give me a notification or anything on my iPhone, then when I clicked on the AIM app it THEN gave me the IM..how do I get it to give me a notification?

Oct 2, 2008, 05:27 PM	#23
kerph32 macrumors newbie Join Date: Sep 2008	works beautifully! finally, pandora while playing a game

Oct 2, 2008, 05:40 PM	#24
fireshot91 macrumors 68040 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Lorton, VA	How do I stay online on AIM and be able to get messages? it says that I'm still online, but I can't receive message notifications

Oct 2, 2008, 05:41 PM	#25
jcde7ago macrumors 6502 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San Francisco, CA (SFSU)	This sounds awesome, especially for something like Beejive...but just like StatusNotifier, it would be hell on battery life...so i think i'll stay away for now Do let us know though 1) how the battery life is and 2) if apps run even with the screen locked...