MacSlash Domain

arn · May 30, 2002, 09:36 AM

From MacSlash.com

You have probably noticed by now that the URL www.macslash.com now points to a generic Dotster page. We are attempting to get in touch with Dotster, but they have been unable or unwilling to reply. We are not certain at this time whether the situation is malicious or not (i.e., squatting), but without word from Dotster, we have nothing else to go on. If the domain has not been stolen, then it has been registered in bad faith. We're an established business and media presence, and anyone who registered it, no matter how innocently, is a squatter.

In the interim, we have registered www.macslash.net, and are hoping that will be up by tomorrow or Friday. We would like to thank Charlie Ruggiero and John Painter, who are helping to set up alternative domains (macslash.org and macslash.info, respectively).

For more information and updates, please email us at macslash@earthlink.net or call Ben Stanfield, Executive Editor, 270-881-0680. Thanks to everyone who has contacted us already.

We are hoping to have this issue resolved ASAP. We apologize for the inconvenience.

Sincerely,
The MacSlash crew

Rocketman · May 30, 2002, 09:45 AM

I had two domains squatted. I registered them through a service and instead of having my domain registered to me as the form stated, and billed to me, they registered the domains themselves and later offered to sell them back to me for "costs" in this case about $370 each less than 2 months later. The original offer was a fee slightly reduced from network solutions prices. I did not know how to respond or resolve it since domains seem to have no clear oversight authority except for nameing conventions. If there is someone with authority to correct this sort of fraud, post it.

Rocketman

pwfletcher · May 30, 2002, 10:50 AM

I have contacted Ben Stanfield of macslash.com and have offered to help him recover his domain name free of charge for all of the good information that he has provided. We should be able to get him back up and running fairly soon.

Patrick Fletcher
Fletcher & Associates
http://www.internetdisputes.org

Hemingray · May 30, 2002, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rocketman
If there is someone with authority to correct this sort of fraud, post it.

I dunno what you consider authority, but go have a look at www.fraud.org and report them (if they're a business) to www.bbb.org . You can also contact the FBI on matters of financial crimes (including fraud).

britboy · May 30, 2002, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pwfletcher
I have contacted Ben Stanfield of macslash.com and have offered to help him recover his domain name free of charge for all of the good information that he has provided. We should be able to get him back up and running fairly soon.

Patrick Fletcher
Fletcher & Associates
http://www.internetdisputes.org

That's very generous of you. Good luck.

andcarne · May 30, 2002, 11:26 AM

Whois says it is registered to:

Vicente Peiro Crespo
Chiva , 23 , 27
Valencia, Valencia 46018
ES

Administrative Contact:
Peiro Crespo, Vicente merc-net@merc-net.com
Chiva , 23 , 27
Valencia, Valencia 46018
ES
34-963847753

Technical Contact:
Peiro Crespo, Vicente merc-net@merc-net.com
Chiva , 23 , 27
Valencia, Valencia 46018
ES
34-963847753

Created on: 28-MAY-02
Expires on: 28-MAY-03
Last Updated on: 28-MAY-02

Grokgod · May 30, 2002, 11:56 AM

~ Pwfletcher. I commend and applaud your action taken to help.
Get those men and right the wrong. We are all behind you in this, I am sure.
Good Luck, I am certain we will all be lookign forward to hearing its outcome!

pimentoLoaf · May 30, 2002, 12:36 PM

For more tools to find out about the situation, run on over to Phaster.Com.

foofan · May 30, 2002, 01:35 PM

if that name is so important, then you should have registered it a long time ago. I'm tired about hearing people moan & groan because they were too stupid to register it in the first place or upset because someone beat them too it. Next time you start a business, why don't you register the domain before you announce what your company or product will be called.

toby · May 30, 2002, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by foofan
if that name is so important, then you should have registered it a long time ago. I'm tired about hearing people moan & groan because they were too stupid to register it in the first place or upset because someone beat them too it. Next time you start a business, why don't you register the domain before you announce what your company or product will be called.

foofan I gues you have no clue what Macslash.com is. They have been up and running for ages using www.macslash.com and someone comes along and hijacks it. Try getting informed before you open your mouth and make an ass of yourself next time.

serpicolugnut · May 30, 2002, 01:46 PM

He did have it registered! Haven't you ever seen the MacSlash website? It's been around for a couple of years!

Before you go spouting off like an idiot, make sure you have the facts straight!

esome · May 30, 2002, 01:48 PM

hahahahahaha...

9 times out of ten this sort of thing is the result of someone not properly registering, or failing to pay their bill, or something like that. we'll see.

psxndc · May 30, 2002, 01:48 PM

Foofan, stfu. It _was_ registered to them. You never would have been able to go to macslash.com if it wasn't.

The people that have it now probably had the registration queued so that as soon as it lapsed it became theirs. Regardless of how they did it, it's still in bad faith. Microsoft had the same thing happen to them, they were just lucky that the guy that had queued it was a big MS fan and was trying to prevent something like what happened to MacSlash from happening to MS.

Should the guys at Macslash been more vigilant about domain expiration (if that was indeed the case)? Yes, but your rant still shows you have no concept of the registration process. Do everyone a favor and keep quiet about things you don't understand.

psxndc

psxndc · May 30, 2002, 01:50 PM

Congrats foofan, it looks like you got two people (me and toby) to sign up just to flame your @$$.

foofan · May 30, 2002, 02:12 PM

if they lost their domain because they forgot to reregister it or forgot to pay their bill, then they have only themselves to blame. Only an idiot would forget to pay their bill on the most important part of their website.

Remember this!
YOU SNOOZE, YOU LOSE!!!!

andcarne · May 30, 2002, 02:48 PM

Please tell me, foofan, How they are supposed to retain their domain, if some other idiot was in the registration queue after them.

toby · May 30, 2002, 03:12 PM

Yes the old "You snooze, you lose" rule. I beleive the legal defense term is "Tibi somnus, tibi zamia."

Are you still in grade school foofan? Try pulling that stunt with any company and see how far it gets you. You painted yourself into a corner and instead of admitting you made a mistake you are just being a dumbass.

BobVB · May 30, 2002, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by esome
hahahahahaha...

9 times out of ten this sort of thing is the result of someone not properly registering, or failing to pay their bill, or something like that. we'll see.

hardly - the problem is you assume the person you've registered it through has done their job.

I have a site I've paid the registration for years in advance but about 2 months ago it just stopped working. THEY had forgotten to renew it. Fortunately no one was looking to steal it, so they were able to 're-register' it and I have it back now.

I mean, why would anyone not have their site paid out a couple years ahead just to be sure it never goes away? The cost is insignificant compared with the potential hassle.

robbyd · May 30, 2002, 04:14 PM

i bet foofans next quote will be "finder's keepers loser's weepers" what a freaking moron

me hate windows · 04:51 PM

It seems to work now.

(edit: yay, my 250th post, halfway to a 'tar

)

foofan · May 30, 2002, 04:59 PM

Yawn....

pimentoLoaf · May 30, 2002, 05:45 PM

Interesting...

I can still get MacSlash on my home computer. I looked around noontime CDT and just a few moments ago.

But three hours ago at a cable-net access sales kiosk at a local mall, they had the Dotster page up.

So... some can still reach it, while some can't.

Why is this?

Ricky · May 30, 2002, 07:24 PM

Here's "Christine" at Dotster Customer Support had to say: "The previous owner of the domain allowed it to expire, so it was able to be registered anew by the new owner through the Namewinner service (www.namewinner.com). It is not illegal to register expired domains, and the new owner should be contacted if the original owner wants to get the domain back."

The "Namewinner" service is their own, of course.

By early evening EST the Macslash.com site was off the air totally and the csupport@dotster.com address that worked earlier was bouncing messages. Interesting. I would guess that they heard from a few pissed off people.

Ringwraith · May 30, 2002, 07:26 PM

Hmm... I do not know if this is related or not, but I am sure someone will tell me.

mactheknife.com also takes you to a dotster page. Maybe it all one big consipiracy funded by Bill Gates to get rid of all Mac-centric websites so he can pretend that Apple doesn't exist. After all, if it's not on the web, it's not there, right?

And, in my own defense, I wil say that I have not been to mactheknife in a long time, so it might have gone dead months ago, and I am simply unaware. I just find it interesting that both seem to lead to dotster. Hmm...

marco114 · May 30, 2002, 09:58 PM

when I go to MacSlash.com it brings up MacMall's site...!!! something is screwy here!

marco

May 30, 2002, 09:36 AM	#1
arn macrumors god Join Date: Apr 2001	MacSlash Domain From MacSlash.com You have probably noticed by now that the URL www.macslash.com now points to a generic Dotster page. We are attempting to get in touch with Dotster, but they have been unable or unwilling to reply. We are not certain at this time whether the situation is malicious or not (i.e., squatting), but without word from Dotster, we have nothing else to go on. If the domain has not been stolen, then it has been registered in bad faith. We're an established business and media presence, and anyone who registered it, no matter how innocently, is a squatter. In the interim, we have registered www.macslash.net, and are hoping that will be up by tomorrow or Friday. We would like to thank Charlie Ruggiero and John Painter, who are helping to set up alternative domains (macslash.org and macslash.info, respectively). For more information and updates, please email us at macslash@earthlink.net or call Ben Stanfield, Executive Editor, 270-881-0680. Thanks to everyone who has contacted us already. We are hoping to have this issue resolved ASAP. We apologize for the inconvenience. Sincerely, The MacSlash crew

May 30, 2002, 10:50 AM	#3
pwfletcher macrumors member Join Date: May 2002	Cybersquatting I have contacted Ben Stanfield of macslash.com and have offered to help him recover his domain name free of charge for all of the good information that he has provided. We should be able to get him back up and running fairly soon. Patrick Fletcher Fletcher & Associates http://www.internetdisputes.org

May 30, 2002, 11:56 AM	#7
Grokgod macrumors 6502a Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Deep within the heart of madness!	This is an injustice and must be righted! ~ Pwfletcher. I commend and applaud your action taken to help. Get those men and right the wrong. We are all behind you in this, I am sure. Good Luck, I am certain we will all be lookign forward to hearing its outcome! __________________ Eckhart Tolle is the real deal, buy his audio tape and change your life!

May 30, 2002, 12:36 PM	#8
pimentoLoaf macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The SimCity Deli	For more tools to find out about the situation, run on over to Phaster.Com. __________________ A pate is nothing more than a French meat loaf that's had a couple of cocktails....Carol Cutler

May 30, 2002, 01:35 PM	#9
foofan macrumors 6502 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hartford, CT	stop whining! if that name is so important, then you should have registered it a long time ago. I'm tired about hearing people moan & groan because they were too stupid to register it in the first place or upset because someone beat them too it. Next time you start a business, why don't you register the domain before you announce what your company or product will be called.

May 30, 2002, 09:45 AM	#2
Rocketman macrumors 68020 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Claremont, CA	I had two domains squatted. I registered them through a service and instead of having my domain registered to me as the form stated, and billed to me, they registered the domains themselves and later offered to sell them back to me for "costs" in this case about $370 each less than 2 months later. The original offer was a fee slightly reduced from network solutions prices. I did not know how to respond or resolve it since domains seem to have no clear oversight authority except for nameing conventions. If there is someone with authority to correct this sort of fraud, post it. Rocketman

May 30, 2002, 11:26 AM	#6
andcarne macrumors newbie Join Date: May 2002	Whois says it is registered to: Vicente Peiro Crespo Chiva , 23 , 27 Valencia, Valencia 46018 ES Administrative Contact: Peiro Crespo, Vicente merc-net@merc-net.com Chiva , 23 , 27 Valencia, Valencia 46018 ES 34-963847753 Technical Contact: Peiro Crespo, Vicente merc-net@merc-net.com Chiva , 23 , 27 Valencia, Valencia 46018 ES 34-963847753 Created on: 28-MAY-02 Expires on: 28-MAY-03 Last Updated on: 28-MAY-02

May 30, 2002, 01:46 PM	#11
serpicolugnut macrumors member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA	read foofan - read! He did have it registered! Haven't you ever seen the MacSlash website? It's been around for a couple of years! Before you go spouting off like an idiot, make sure you have the facts straight! __________________ Because life is too short to do Windows...

May 30, 2002, 01:48 PM	#12
esome macrumors member Join Date: Apr 2002	don't mean to sound unsympathetic but... hahahahahaha... 9 times out of ten this sort of thing is the result of someone not properly registering, or failing to pay their bill, or something like that. we'll see.

May 30, 2002, 01:48 PM	#13
psxndc macrumors regular Join Date: May 2002	stfu foofan Foofan, stfu. It _was_ registered to them. You never would have been able to go to macslash.com if it wasn't. The people that have it now probably had the registration queued so that as soon as it lapsed it became theirs. Regardless of how they did it, it's still in bad faith. Microsoft had the same thing happen to them, they were just lucky that the guy that had queued it was a big MS fan and was trying to prevent something like what happened to MacSlash from happening to MS. Should the guys at Macslash been more vigilant about domain expiration (if that was indeed the case)? Yes, but your rant still shows you have no concept of the registration process. Do everyone a favor and keep quiet about things you don't understand. psxndc

May 30, 2002, 01:50 PM	#14
psxndc macrumors regular Join Date: May 2002	Congrats foofan Congrats foofan, it looks like you got two people (me and toby) to sign up just to flame your @$$.

May 30, 2002, 02:12 PM	#15
foofan macrumors 6502 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hartford, CT	didn't pay their bill if they lost their domain because they forgot to reregister it or forgot to pay their bill, then they have only themselves to blame. Only an idiot would forget to pay their bill on the most important part of their website. Remember this! YOU SNOOZE, YOU LOSE!!!!

May 30, 2002, 02:48 PM	#16
andcarne macrumors newbie Join Date: May 2002	Please tell me, foofan, How they are supposed to retain their domain, if some other idiot was in the registration queue after them.

May 30, 2002, 03:12 PM	#17
toby macrumors newbie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ontario	Yes the old "You snooze, you lose" rule. I beleive the legal defense term is "Tibi somnus, tibi zamia." Are you still in grade school foofan? Try pulling that stunt with any company and see how far it gets you. You painted yourself into a corner and instead of admitting you made a mistake you are just being a dumbass.

May 30, 2002, 04:14 PM	#19
robbyd macrumors newbie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Everett WA	i bet foofans next quote will be "finder's keepers loser's weepers" what a freaking moron

May 30, 2002, 04:48 PM	#20
me hate windows macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jan 2002	It seems to work now. (edit: yay, my 250th post, halfway to a 'tar ) __________________ "You are coming to a sad realization, cancel or allow?" Last edited by me hate windows : May 30, 2002 at 04:51 PM.

May 30, 2002, 04:59 PM	#21
foofan macrumors 6502 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hartford, CT	.... Yawn....

May 30, 2002, 05:45 PM	#22
pimentoLoaf macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The SimCity Deli	Interesting... I can still get MacSlash on my home computer. I looked around noontime CDT and just a few moments ago. But three hours ago at a cable-net access sales kiosk at a local mall, they had the Dotster page up. So... some can still reach it, while some can't. Why is this? __________________ A pate is nothing more than a French meat loaf that's had a couple of cocktails....Carol Cutler

May 30, 2002, 07:24 PM	#23
Ricky macrumors newbie Join Date: May 2002	Louts Here's "Christine" at Dotster Customer Support had to say: "The previous owner of the domain allowed it to expire, so it was able to be registered anew by the new owner through the Namewinner service (www.namewinner.com). It is not illegal to register expired domains, and the new owner should be contacted if the original owner wants to get the domain back." The "Namewinner" service is their own, of course. By early evening EST the Macslash.com site was off the air totally and the csupport@dotster.com address that worked earlier was bouncing messages. Interesting. I would guess that they heard from a few pissed off people.

May 30, 2002, 07:26 PM	#24
Ringwraith macrumors newbie Join Date: May 2002	Hmm... I do not know if this is related or not, but I am sure someone will tell me. mactheknife.com also takes you to a dotster page. Maybe it all one big consipiracy funded by Bill Gates to get rid of all Mac-centric websites so he can pretend that Apple doesn't exist. After all, if it's not on the web, it's not there, right? And, in my own defense, I wil say that I have not been to mactheknife in a long time, so it might have gone dead months ago, and I am simply unaware. I just find it interesting that both seem to lead to dotster. Hmm... __________________ I think, therefor iMac!

May 30, 2002, 09:58 PM	#25
marco114 macrumors regular Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: North Carolina	MAC MALL STOLD MAC SLASH? when I go to MacSlash.com it brings up MacMall's site...!!! something is screwy here! marco

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