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Old Jan 28, 2004, 02:12 PM   #1
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Folklore.org - History of Mac

Folklore.org is website that offers historical anecdotes:

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Folklore.org is a web site devoted to collective historical storytelling. It captures and presents sets of related stories that describe interesting events from multiple perspectives, allowing groups of people to recount their shared history in the form of interlinked anecdotes
At present, the site is collecting and displaying stories related to the development of the original Apple Macintosh and the people who created it. There are presently 70 stories related to this topic.
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Old Jan 28, 2004, 02:16 PM   #2
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Finished reading it all about 6hrs ago. Very interesting read, well worth your time if you want to know more about the history of the Macintosh and some insights into Steve Jobs.
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Old Jan 28, 2004, 02:19 PM   #3
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In the spirit of Studs Terkel and Howard Zinn.

"A Peoples' History of Apple"

Yeah!!!

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Old Jan 28, 2004, 02:24 PM   #4
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Fabulous - maybe they should get endorsed by Apple
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Old Jan 28, 2004, 02:41 PM   #5
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I found this to be an amazing site, with a surprising amount of candid details and memories about the earilier days of Apple.
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The site seems to be getting MR'd (rather than /.'d) as it's running a little slower than the last time I was there.
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i dont care. i want new hardware.
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Old Jan 28, 2004, 03:21 PM   #8
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I read all 70 articles yesterday. I found it very interesting to read, and it has a ton of info about the early days of Apple, and how Steve Jobs works and thinks. Its really funny how its constantly mentioned in the are articles that everyone else feared him.

I also found it amusing how Steve complained about the layout of the original Macintosh motherboard, cause the memory chips weren't "pretty enough".
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Old Jan 28, 2004, 03:36 PM   #9
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I've been perusing the articles and find them to be very entertaining reads.

Kudos to the site creator for putting together some create pieces of macintosh history.
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Old Jan 28, 2004, 03:46 PM   #10
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Angry Steve cheats Woz

Does it mention the story of how Steve Jobs lied to Woz about the amount of a large contract sale and cheated Woz out of his share of the split? This was at a time when Jobs and Woz were struggling and Woz was doing all of the engineering and design work.

I think this is the story that provides the most insight into Job's character. Woz now thinks so too. It hurt him bad after he found out years later.
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Old Jan 28, 2004, 04:15 PM   #11
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Wow, what a good read this will be. I'm looking forward to it.
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Old Jan 28, 2004, 04:46 PM   #12
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i dont care. i want new hardware.
I hate to say it, but I agree, sort of. The macweb has become dull as dirt lately, and here is a story (earnest though it may be) about Mac history as the top story on page 1.

It appears that nothing's happening.

I'm tempted to delete all my macweb bookmarks.
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Old Jan 28, 2004, 05:01 PM   #13
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Then what do you want them to do? They could just put nothing...
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Old Jan 28, 2004, 05:03 PM   #14
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The site seems to be getting MR'd (rather than /.'d) as it's running a little slower than the last time I was there.
You should have seen it yesterday when it was slashdotted. Molasses in the winter...
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Old Jan 28, 2004, 05:08 PM   #15
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Then what do you want them to do? They could just put nothing...
I don't know. I'm remembering back to the days just after OSX 10.1 was released, when every day brought new native software for this exciting new platform. I couldn't wait to get onto the macweb to see what was new and available.

Now ... Garageband. Probably a watershed product, but not for me. 2003 was an amazing year: Al PBs, new iPod, iTMS, announcement of G5s. This year, so far ...

Garageband.

I want something to wake me up, I don't care if it's hardware or software.

So what should a site like Macrumors do during these dull dull dull times?

I don't know. I think it's probably a problem.

But folklore?
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Old Jan 28, 2004, 06:30 PM   #16
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I don't know. I'm remembering back to the days just after OSX 10.1 was released, when every day brought new native software for this exciting new platform. I couldn't wait to get onto the macweb to see what was new and available.

Now ... Garageband. Probably a watershed product, but not for me. 2003 was an amazing year: Al PBs, new iPod, iTMS, announcement of G5s. This year, so far ...

Garageband.
I take it you don't work in the computer industry, especially not for Apple, if you think the miracles you're hoping for happen overnight? According to your list for 2003… one, two, three, four great things Apple did. So one every three months.

Of course, you count GarageBand as the only thing that has happened in the first *four weeks* of this year. Never mind the iPod mini, Final Cut Express 2, or the major iLife updates. My god, the year has just barely started, hold your horses...
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I had formed an opinion of Jobs early on simply from his atrocities against the Newton and Pirates of Silicon Valley but held back a bit on that opinion because movies ALWAYS embellish/distort the facts. But after reading this I've come to the firm conclusion that Jobs is either:
1. A full blown psychopath
2. Or is just a complete and total arrogant ***hole.

Might be a bit of both. If I had to deal with a boss like that I'd be in prison for murder. http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/foru...sfiring_v1.gif
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Old Jan 28, 2004, 07:35 PM   #18
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The stories about Bill Gates are revealing. Even then, he could write programs AND he knew how to make a killer business deal (see the MacBasic story in particular). The stories say that Bill looked down on Steve because Steve couldn't program but that Steve felt superior to Bill. As we knew, big egos from the very start.
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Old Jan 28, 2004, 08:08 PM   #19
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that's funny, I had no idea the site was new. I just spent about 3 days reading through the articles during breaks at work. Nice site.
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Old Jan 28, 2004, 08:19 PM   #20
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Whatever happened to the rest of these people?

Are they off in an island somewhere drinking drinks with umbrella hats on them?
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Old Jan 28, 2004, 10:20 PM   #21
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How is this that this domain name was available? What was folklore.org before this Apple history site was created?
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Old Jan 28, 2004, 10:24 PM   #22
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GREAT STUFF:

When Steve Jobs found out about Windows, he went ballistic.

"Get Gates down here immediately", he fumed to Mike Boich, Mac's original evangelist who was in charge of our relationships with third party developers. "He needs to explain this, and it better be good. I want him in this room by tomorrow afternoon, or else!"

And, to my surprise, I was invited to a meeting in that conference room the next afternoon, where Bill Gates had somehow manifested, alone, surrounded by ten Apple employees. I think Steve wanted me there because I had evidence of Neil asking about the internals, but that never came up, so I was just a fascinated observer as Steve started yelling at Bill, asking him why he violated their agreement.

"You're ripping us off!", Steve shouted, raising his voice even higher. "I trusted you, and now you're stealing from us!"
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In the spirit of Studs Terkel and Howard Zinn.

"A Peoples' History of Apple"

Yeah!!!


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Old Jan 29, 2004, 09:51 AM   #24
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Ah, the MacBasic story! I've told this story for many years and most times I got the impression that nobody believed me. I had the software (although I doubt I could put my finger on a floppy of it) and I had the preliminary manual (I still do have that xeroxed manual).

What I was not aware of was that part of it related to the "look and feel" agreement.
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Old Jan 29, 2004, 12:43 PM   #25
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That is a nice site, thank you for the link. I enjoyed the old photo's.
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