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Old Jan 29, 2004, 12:44 PM   #1
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Mac OS X 10.3.3 (7F24) and Safari 1.2 Seeded

Apple has seeded a new version of Mac OS X to developers. Seed 7F24 has been posted with major changes to "Graphics, OpenGL games, USB devices, printing, browsing networks, Cocoa applications".

Of most interest is the inclusion of Safari 1.2 (current released version is 1.1.1).

The newest version of Safari includes a number of significant improvements:

- Ability to "tab" to form elements (buttons, checkboxes, submit buttons)
- The option (on/off) to "tab" to hyperlinks
- Improved download manager with resume
- View dimensions of an image
- Custom cursor support
- Option to open links from applications "in a new tab in the current window"
- Improved performance
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Old Jan 29, 2004, 12:46 PM   #2
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This sounds good, especially the improved download manager. Now I am on DSL it is less than an issue, but I had to but Spped Download pretty soon after I got my Mac as I was only on dial up at the time. Really annoying as at the time there was no resume available on Software Update and Apple didn't put updates on Magazine CDs.
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Old Jan 29, 2004, 12:46 PM   #3
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I hope that Safari 1.2 fixes its memory issues. It's currently using 114MB of my RAM, and all I have is this reply window and the Rumors forum open in a tabbed window.
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Old Jan 29, 2004, 12:50 PM   #4
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Sounds promising. Now if Safari can open links like what I found here on that SOB (can I say that?) that abused his parents and his Xmas G5?
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Old Jan 29, 2004, 12:52 PM   #5
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Tabbing

The tabbing feature upgrades will be great, it's my most-used feature in Safari now.
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Old Jan 29, 2004, 12:54 PM   #6
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It's good to hear of improvements that are tangible to the average user.

I'm sure that most other updates are good, but they often are in semi-technobabble (improves the subroutine function of KersFeff and other enhancements) with nothing "visible."

Image dimensions will be a welcome addition to safari as well as "resume" in the DL manager. Heck, if I can just tab to a drop down box I'd be pretty happy.
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Old Jan 29, 2004, 12:54 PM   #7
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Sounds promising. Now if Safari can open links like what I found here on that SOB (can I say that?) that abused his parents and his Xmas G5?
what on earth are you talking about ?
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Finally a Safari update that is coming to the peanut gallery (us). The tabbing to all elements is important. I hope 'Improved Performance' includes the DOGSLOW https issues.
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Old Jan 29, 2004, 12:55 PM   #9
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Chip: yeah you can say SOB, but I don't see anything to cry about
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Old Jan 29, 2004, 12:55 PM   #10
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how long does it generallly take a "seed" before it released to the public?

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Old Jan 29, 2004, 12:55 PM   #11
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YAY finally, I was worried about Safari!!
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Old Jan 29, 2004, 12:56 PM   #12
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"Graphics, OpenGL games, USB devices, printing, browsing networks, Cocoa applications".
Very good. I have some terrible printing issues with my old Epson 740i (randomly stops while printing, making the page unusable) and I wasn´t able to browse Windows/SMB Networks up to now as it was advertized for Panther. Not even another Mac appeared in the "Network" shortcut... I hope this will be fixed now.
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Old Jan 29, 2004, 12:56 PM   #13
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what the hell?

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Sounds promising. Now if Safari can open links like what I found here on that SOB (can I say that?) that abused his parents and his Xmas G5?
DUDE are you OK? What in the world are you talking about?
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Old Jan 29, 2004, 12:57 PM   #14
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what on earth are you talking about ?
He means that guy that posted pics of his Dual G5 that he received from his parents for Christmas that he gutted to put PC parts in.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthre...threadid=57719
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Old Jan 29, 2004, 12:57 PM   #15
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what on earth are you talking about ?
The dude who gutted the G5 and installed an Athlon motherboard, I think, because he wanted a Dell.

Glad to see Apple is progressing. Maybe by the end of the year, everything will work.
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Old Jan 29, 2004, 12:58 PM   #16
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He means that guy that posted pics of his Dual G5 that he received from his parents for Christmas that he gutted to put PC parts in.
Do you have pics? I would like to see that...

nevermind i see them now thanks for the link

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Old Jan 29, 2004, 01:01 PM   #17
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just checked the seed note...there are quite a few problems. This will be the first seed since the Panther seeds came out that I am going to skip. I am not going to be specific so i don't violate the ADC rules but it seems to go backwards....many of the problems were in the first builds of Panther if i remember correctly.
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Old Jan 29, 2004, 01:02 PM   #18
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Personal cursors, sounds like fun!

So how soon untill we might get it?
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Old Jan 29, 2004, 01:02 PM   #19
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I'd love a feature on MacRumors where if someone votes a story as negative they'd need to explain WHY they voted negative. Excepting peecee trolls I can't see why someone voted negative on this story.
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Old Jan 29, 2004, 01:02 PM   #20
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Awesome! Lots of great stuff coming for Safari.

Nice to see 10.3.3 coming along also, hopefully it will clear up the last of the minor annoyances currently in Panther. Then we can start looking forward to 10.3.5 which sounds like it will start giving us some more goodies and not so much just fixes.
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Old Jan 29, 2004, 01:03 PM   #21
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Re: what the hell?

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DUDE are you OK? What in the world are you talking about?
He's talking about a Hardware thread posted a couple days ago about some m oron kid that gutted a brand new G5 so he could put an AMD MB in it. His parents bought the G5 for him.
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Old Jan 29, 2004, 01:04 PM   #22
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2 issues for me that I hope are fixed.

1. Back button doesn't always work. Many times I'll hit back, and it will just reload the current page.

2. Safari has unexpectedly quit. This happens WAY too much whem I am on eBay or Fidelity's websites.

We'll see.
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Old Jan 29, 2004, 01:08 PM   #23
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Also of note...the updates are 75.5 MB in total. This is the biggest update I can ever remember from Apple except for the 1.2.5 cumulative update that was like 100 MB..
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Old Jan 29, 2004, 01:09 PM   #24
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I'm a little curious as to whether these "major" changes have anything to do with the new IBM XL compilers... That could make for some exciting speed bumps. Maybe yes, maybe no.
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Old Jan 29, 2004, 01:09 PM   #25
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Then we can start looking forward to 10.3.5 which sounds like it will start giving us some more goodies and not so much just fixes.
what did you hear about 10.3.5 and where did you hear it from?

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