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Old Oct 24, 2008, 01:27 PM   #1
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Apple publicly Against California Prop 8

It is in their top stories, but Apple is publicly against Proposition 8 feed://www.apple.com/main/rss/hotnews/hotnews.rss

Great news as having Californians eliminate the rights of people will be a sad, sad first in this country.
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Old Oct 24, 2008, 01:28 PM   #2
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Can you provide a link? (Not a feed)

EDIT:

Found a link to the "hot news" site, but not to a permanent page or anything. Link

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No on Prop 8

October 24, 2008

Apple is publicly opposing Proposition 8 and making a donation of $100,000 to the No on 8 campaign. Apple was among the first California companies to offer equal rights and benefits to our employees’ same-sex partners, and we strongly believe that a person’s fundamental rights — including the right to marry — should not be affected by their sexual orientation. Apple views this as a civil rights issue, rather than just a political issue, and is therefore speaking out publicly against Proposition 8.
Way to go Apple.
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Old Oct 24, 2008, 01:29 PM   #3
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Old Oct 24, 2008, 01:30 PM   #4
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Good on Apple. Hopefully Prop. 8 will fail
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Old Oct 24, 2008, 01:30 PM   #5
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Can you provide a link? (Not a feed)
Its kinda odd how Apple did release this. I only see it in the RSS feed. Do you see it via this link?
http://www.apple.com/startpage/
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Old Oct 24, 2008, 01:31 PM   #6
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That feed is pretty much the only news on this subject. I've looked for a bit and it's all the same paragraph as in the feed.
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Old Oct 24, 2008, 01:31 PM   #7
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Old Oct 24, 2008, 01:31 PM   #8
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It's on their hotnews page. This is their statement:

http://www.apple.com/hotnews/

Apple is publicly opposing Proposition 8 and making a donation of $100,000 to the No on 8 campaign. Apple was among the first California companies to offer equal rights and benefits to our employees’ same-sex partners, and we strongly believe that a person’s fundamental rights — including the right to marry — should not be affected by their sexual orientation. Apple views this as a civil rights issue, rather than just a political issue, and is therefore speaking out publicly against Proposition 8.
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Old Oct 24, 2008, 01:31 PM   #9
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im sorry, i must be missing the point

what is the problem with homosexual people getting married? i do not want any religious crap, because the church and state are supposed to be separate.
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Old Oct 24, 2008, 01:32 PM   #10
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It's in the RSS feeds in Mail. I just checked and it was there.

Or, http://www.apple.com/startpage/


ETA: Wayyyy late
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Old Oct 24, 2008, 01:33 PM   #11
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Old Oct 24, 2008, 01:34 PM   #12
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im sorry, i must be missing the point

what is the problem with homosexual people getting married? i do not want any religious crap, because the church and state are supposed to be separate.
The only reasons ever given ARE religious. It has nothing to do with anything else.
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im sorry, i must be missing the point

what is the problem with homosexual people getting married? i do not want any religious crap, because the church and state are supposed to be separate.
Ppl I have talked to have an issue with calling it "marriage" they don't necessarily have an issue with gay ppl getting married they just don't want it called marriage and hurt what they call "the true sanctity of marriage between a man and a woman". in which I replied, in this day and age when ppl get divorced more times then they change their underwear, where is the sanctity in that?
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The only reasons ever given ARE religious. It has nothing to do with anything else.
ok, i wanted to make sure i wasn't living under a rock.
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Old Oct 24, 2008, 01:38 PM   #15
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im sorry, i must be missing the point

what is the problem with homosexual people getting married? i do not want any religious crap, because the church and state are supposed to be separate.
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The only reasons ever given ARE religious. It has nothing to do with anything else.
For those not aware. Proposition 8 is on the November ballot in California. It would amend our state constitution to eliminate the right of people to marry the person of their choice. People would only have the option to marry a person of the opposite sex.

The only reason for eliminating this right is a religious one.
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Ppl I have talked to have an issue with calling it "marriage" they don't necessarily have an issue with gay ppl getting married they just don't want it called marriage and hurt what they call "the true sanctity of marriage between a man and a woman". in which I replied, in this day and age when ppl get divorced more times then they change their underwear, where is the sanctity in that?
agreed.

i cant comprehend how I should be privileged than any other group of people, just because i think that ( o Y o ) are amazing
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Old Oct 24, 2008, 01:44 PM   #17
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agreed.

i cant comprehend how I should be privileged than any other group of people, just because i think that ( o Y o ) are amazing
It is also something to consider at the National level where a candidate like McCain will also try and take this away from people. Despite what he claims is just a state issue.

I find it more interesting how adept Google is at this at times.

This thread already has a "Vote No on 8" ad.

Then again, not like this thread is very cryptic.

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Old Oct 24, 2008, 01:49 PM   #18
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Including an explanation in the original post might help those (like myself) who didn't know what Prop 8 is.

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Proposition 8 is an initiative measure on the 2008 California General Election ballot titled Eliminates Right of Same-Sex Couples to Marry. If passed, the proposition would "change the California Constitution to eliminate the right of same-sex couples to marry in California." A new section would be added stating "only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California."

The measure was originally submitted for the ballot by petitioners with the title "California Marriage Protection Act." The title and summary were revised by Attorney General Jerry Brown to more "accurately reflect the measure." The Superior Court of California ruled in favor of these changes, stating, "The title and summary is not false or misleading because it states that Proposition 8 would 'eliminate the right of same-sex couples to marry' in California. The California Supreme Court unequivocally held that same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marry under the California Constitution."
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Old Oct 24, 2008, 01:51 PM   #19
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A very noble and much needed announcement from Apple. Hopefully, Apple's public "coming out" against this Prop will give the No on 8 campaign the extra 1-2% it needs to defeat this barbaric proposition.

And as a thanks, time to buy a new iPod!
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Old Oct 24, 2008, 01:55 PM   #20
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Hopefully, Apple's public "coming out" against this Prop will give the No on 8 campaign the extra 1-2% it needs to defeat this barbaric proposition.
And $100,000 to the No on 8 campaign will help, too.
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Old Oct 24, 2008, 02:20 PM   #21
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Here's a perm link from MacNN http://www.macnn.com/articles/08/10/...fights.prop.8/

Really I don't get the whole ban union/marriage thing...

All B.S. arguments aside, gay marriage is between two consenting adults, and there isn't a law that can be written to stop anyone from calling it a marriage.

Can we move on to more important issues in the world now?

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They got my vote...and I didn't need Apple to support it to know that it is the right thing to do.
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Old Oct 24, 2008, 02:26 PM   #23
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MacRumors has posted a news story reporting Apple's announcement.
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Can we move on to more important issues in the world now?
Yeah, like, when are the Mac Pros gonna be updated?!? I'm in the market for a good used one and I'm looking for prices to drop
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Awesome.

Thank you apple.
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