Over-the-Air Podcast Downloading in Firmware 2.2

MacRumors · Oct 28, 2008, 03:41 PM

TUAW posts another screenshot from the iPhone 2.2 Firmware Beta 2 that has been provided to developers. This new screenshot seems to reveal that Apple will be delivering over-the-air Podcast downloads on the iPhone and iPod Touch.

TUAW speculates that this may be why Apple rejected the Podcaster application. The "Get More Episodes" button in the latest beta firmware does not appear to be functional at this time.

Article Link: Over-the-Air Podcast Downloading in Firmware 2.2

Telp · Oct 28, 2008, 03:46 PM

If this is true, this is gonna be very great, Ashame for the developer who wanted to do this, but would rather it done through Apple anyways. I imagine this would be a wifi only thing, but who would want to download huge podcasts over EDGE or 3G. Next up, Movie downloads? TV shows? I can't believe this is a higher priority than C+P.

Rybold · 04:10 PM

Over the air podcasts will be awesome!
I never know when I'm going to have free time, and being able to download a
podcast and listen to it while I'm waiting for someone or just "killing time" will be excellent.

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Drumjim85 · Oct 28, 2008, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telp

If this is true, this is gonna be very great, Ashame for the developer who wanted to do this, but would rather it done through Apple anyways. I imagine this would be a wifi only thing, but who would want to download huge podcasts over EDGE or 3G. Next up, Movie downloads? TV shows? I can't believe this is a higher priority than C+P.

ya, id imaging i would be tied into the music store some how ... (which is only wifi)

Rybold · 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telp

I can't believe this is a higher priority than C+P.

Maybe copy & paste is TEN TIMES more difficult to make than this add-on to iTunes. Maybe and maybe not.

Drumjim85 · 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rybold

This was not made by Apple. This was made by a third-party developer, just like all the other Apps on your phone.

so you're telling me that "notes" and "safari" and "ipod" are all 3rd party apps not made by apple ?

that screen shot is part of the "ipod" app

mkrishnan · Oct 28, 2008, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rybold

This was not made by Apple. This was made by a third-party developer, just like all the other Apps on your phone.

Yes, I too am totally confused by what you mean by this.

broncopde · Oct 28, 2008, 04:20 PM

This is certainly a very useful feature that will be appreciated by many ipod touch and iphone users!

kmcrawford · 05:00 PM

Ok, so I'm assuming 2 things.

1st, you'd already have to be subscribed to a podcast to "get more".

2nd, I'm sure they are going to make you have to be on WiFi to download podcasts.

It would be cool if you could browse podcasts, like on the Apple TV.

fishmoose · Oct 28, 2008, 04:22 PM

This is great!! Finally i can just download my podcast from anywhere in the house without booting the macbook and then sync!!
I usually lissen to my podcast in bed at weekends so i dont wanna get up and boot the computer to download the latest episode of Mark Kermodes rants!

hfletcher · Oct 28, 2008, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drumjim85

ya, id imaging i would be tied into the music store some how ... (which is only wifi)

I don't understand why you can download apps up to 10mb over the air, but not a 3mb song off iTunes? OK, maybe not a full length podcast, but I don't understand why the iTMS still has to use wifi? It would be really nice if you could download the occasional song in a 3G area for example

Arran · Oct 28, 2008, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishmoose

This is great!! Finally i can just download my podcast from anywhere in the house without booting the macbook and then sync!!
I usually lissen to my podcast in bed at weekends so i dont wanna get up and boot the computer to download the latest episode of Mark Kermodes rants!

You mean Kermode and Mayo's film review? You can stream many BBC podcasts to your iphone here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/ip/#_home.

I use it daily.

AeronPrometheus · Oct 28, 2008, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hfletcher

I don't understand why you can download apps up to 10mb over the air, but not a 3mb song off iTunes? OK, maybe not a full length podcast, but I don't understand why the iTMS still has to use wifi? It would be really nice if you could download the occasional song in a 3G area for example

Restrictions on Apps are much more lax than music, which is why you can re-download an App you've paid for, but not a song. I think Apple thinks that iffy downloads are alright for Apps (cause they can go back and re-download the missing bits if the connection is interrupted) but are not cool for songs. It might be part of their DRM deals with the music companies that prevents this, who knows.

Podcasts are for the better part, free and unregulated. If I cannot download via 3G at -least- then I will be very disappointed in this feature.

deriko100 · Oct 28, 2008, 04:43 PM

Woot, no wonder they took down podcaster.

nagromme · Oct 28, 2008, 05:10 PM

Sounds nice, but it does make you wonder if Apple might not have rejected Podcaster and THEN decided to add the feature in imitation of Podcaster's idea. I don't really believe that worst-case interpretation--it's a fairly obvious feature that Apple probably had already thought of. But if I was Podcaster's creator, it would be hard not to wonder.

Re lack of 3G music downloads: I think the music download system is simply older and less sophisticated than the app download system--and probably bound up in agreements with music labels too. That could change, you never know.

Drumjim85 · Oct 28, 2008, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nagromme

Re lack of 3G music downloads: I think the music download system is simply older and less sophisticated than the app download system--and probably bound up in agreements with music labels too. That could change, you never know.

i think if anything, it would be some ATT deal that is stopping it, not the labels... they dont care how much cell tower bandwidth gets used.

fishmoose · Oct 28, 2008, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arran

You mean Kermode and Mayo's film review? You can stream many BBC podcasts to your iphone here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/ip/#_home.

I use it daily.

How can i have missed that, thanks for the tip!

Rybold · Oct 28, 2008, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drumjim85

so you're telling me that "notes" and "safari" and "ipod" are all 3rd party apps not made by apple ?

that screen shot is part of the "ipod" app

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkrishnan

Yes, I too am totally confused by what you mean by this.

Oops. "My bad." I thought that was a third-party App. Sorry.

fleshman03 · Oct 28, 2008, 05:59 PM

This was the only reason why I wanted to jailbreak my Touch. Now, I'm 100% happy without jailbreaking.

I'm so happy that I will no longer need to pull out my MacBook Pro to update my MSNBC CountDown podcast! YES!

I hope Apple isn't going to screw us and only have it be audio podcasts. Video is needed!!!

MacMuttonchops · Oct 28, 2008, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drumjim85

i think if anything, it would be some ATT deal that is stopping it, not the labels... they dont care how much cell tower bandwidth gets used.

No. Apps up to 10MB are allowed to be downloaded over the air. Songs are 3MB. AT&T stopping it makes no sense.

ChrisN · Oct 28, 2008, 06:06 PM

I cannot wait! Hopefully I will get back into listening to podcasts.

ChrisN

fleshman03 · Oct 28, 2008, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacMuttonchops

No. Apps up to 10MB are allowed to be downloaded over the air. Songs are 3MB. AT&T stopping it makes no sense.

My video podcast is ~300mb/hour. Surely I'll be able to download that via wifi?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisN

I cannot wait! Hopefully I will get back into listening to podcasts.

ChrisN

There is a lot of awesome stuff out there. Personally, I use podcasts as a type of talk radio.

So does anyone have an idea on a release date? Before election day?

ntrigue · Oct 28, 2008, 06:18 PM

I'm pleased to see constant Firmware improvements again after a series of just bug fixes.

Drumjim85 · Oct 28, 2008, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacMuttonchops

No. Apps up to 10MB are allowed to be downloaded over the air. Songs are 3MB. AT&T stopping it makes no sense.

and the app store negotiations happened (probably) a lot later than the itunes store did.... The whole thing doesn't make sense, but this is my only logical suggestion.

foobarbaz · Oct 28, 2008, 06:35 PM

Hmm, so maybe Apple rejecting this app wasn't entirely evil. Imagine how many people would complain now that they spent 10 bucks on the 3rd party app... (But it's certainly not fair to the developer. He did a lot of work, and was first, only to be c*ck blocked by Apple.)

Oct 28, 2008, 03:41 PM	#1
MacRumors macrumors bot Join Date: Apr 2001	Over-the-Air Podcast Downloading in Firmware 2.2 TUAW posts another screenshot from the iPhone 2.2 Firmware Beta 2 that has been provided to developers. This new screenshot seems to reveal that Apple will be delivering over-the-air Podcast downloads on the iPhone and iPod Touch. TUAW speculates that this may be why Apple rejected the Podcaster application. The "Get More Episodes" button in the latest beta firmware does not appear to be functional at this time. Article Link: Over-the-Air Podcast Downloading in Firmware 2.2

Oct 28, 2008, 03:46 PM	#2
Telp macrumors 68030 Join Date: Feb 2007	If this is true, this is gonna be very great, Ashame for the developer who wanted to do this, but would rather it done through Apple anyways. I imagine this would be a wifi only thing, but who would want to download huge podcasts over EDGE or 3G. Next up, Movie downloads? TV shows? I can't believe this is a higher priority than C+P. __________________ Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower. -Steve Jobs

Oct 28, 2008, 04:01 PM	#3
Rybold macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: California, USA	Over the air podcasts will be awesome! I never know when I'm going to have free time, and being able to download a podcast and listen to it while I'm waiting for someone or just "killing time" will be excellent. . . . . Last edited by Rybold : Oct 28, 2008 at 04:10 PM.

Oct 28, 2008, 04:20 PM	#8
broncopde macrumors regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Conway, AR	Excellent This is certainly a very useful feature that will be appreciated by many ipod touch and iphone users! __________________ 12-inch PowerBook G4, 1.5 GHz, 1.25 GB

Oct 28, 2008, 04:20 PM	#9
kmcrawford macrumors member Join Date: Mar 2008	Ok, so I'm assuming 2 things. 1st, you'd already have to be subscribed to a podcast to "get more". 2nd, I'm sure they are going to make you have to be on WiFi to download podcasts. It would be cool if you could browse podcasts, like on the Apple TV. Last edited by xUKHCx : Oct 31, 2008 at 05:00 PM.

Oct 28, 2008, 04:22 PM	#10
fishmoose macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sweden	This is great!! Finally i can just download my podcast from anywhere in the house without booting the macbook and then sync!! I usually lissen to my podcast in bed at weekends so i dont wanna get up and boot the computer to download the latest episode of Mark Kermodes rants! __________________ MacBook 2.2 GHz 2 gig ram 120 GB HD; iPhone 3G 16 GB; iPod Video 30 GB

Oct 28, 2008, 04:43 PM	#14
deriko100 macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: New York	Woot, no wonder they took down podcaster. __________________ Unibody Macbook Pro 15" Search before you post: MRoogle

Oct 28, 2008, 05:10 PM	#15
nagromme macrumors 601 Join Date: May 2002 Location: Blinking blue dot	Sounds nice, but it does make you wonder if Apple might not have rejected Podcaster and THEN decided to add the feature in imitation of Podcaster's idea. I don't really believe that worst-case interpretation--it's a fairly obvious feature that Apple probably had already thought of. But if I was Podcaster's creator, it would be hard not to wonder. Re lack of 3G music downloads: I think the music download system is simply older and less sophisticated than the app download system--and probably bound up in agreements with music labels too. That could change, you never know. __________________ nagromme Would you like a treatment?

Oct 28, 2008, 05:59 PM	#19
fleshman03 macrumors 68000 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Tampa, FL	This was the only reason why I wanted to jailbreak my Touch. Now, I'm 100% happy without jailbreaking. I'm so happy that I will no longer need to pull out my MacBook Pro to update my MSNBC CountDown podcast! YES! I hope Apple isn't going to screw us and only have it be audio podcasts. Video is needed!!! __________________ Penguin: Early 2008 MacBook Pro C2D @ 2.5GhZ, 2GB, 250GB / iPhone 3GS 32GB Monkey: Early 2006 MacBook Black CD @ 2GhZ, 2GB, 80GB / iPhone 3G 16GB

Oct 28, 2008, 06:06 PM	#21
ChrisN macrumors 65816 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Demarest, NJ	I cannot wait! Hopefully I will get back into listening to podcasts. ChrisN __________________ 24" iMac Alu 2.8GHz, 13" MacBook White 2.0GHz, 8Gb iPhone 1st gen day 1, 8Gb iPhone 3G, 8GB iPod Nano 4G Orange.

Oct 28, 2008, 06:18 PM	#23
ntrigue macrumors 68020 Join Date: Jul 2007	2.2 is shaping up to be quite the upgrade. I'm pleased to see constant Firmware improvements again after a series of just bug fixes.

Oct 28, 2008, 06:35 PM	#25
foobarbaz macrumors member Join Date: Nov 2007	Hmm, so maybe Apple rejecting this app wasn't entirely evil. Imagine how many people would complain now that they spent 10 bucks on the 3rd party app... (But it's certainly not fair to the developer. He did a lot of work, and was first, only to be c*ck blocked by Apple.)

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