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Old Nov 14, 2008, 02:03 PM   #1
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Original MacBook Air Capable of 4 Finger Gestures Through Software Update



Hardmac points back to a post made in our own forums which details the experience of one user enabling four finger gestures on his 1st generation MacBook Air.
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I can confirm the four finger gesture is possible on pre-October 2008 laptops, and I currently have four finger Exposé and Application Switching working on my January 2008 MacBook Air.
This method is very much a "hack" at this time and is certainly not recommended for the casual user, but does suggest that Apple could enable the four-finger gestures on early 2008 MacBook Pros and MacBook Airs through a simple software update.

When Apple introduced the new notebooks in October, they introduced a new four-finger gesture that could be used to invoke Expose. It hadn't been clear if the four-finger gesture would be possible on existing multi-touch trackpads which have shipped in the MacBook Air and MacBook Pro since early 2008.



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Old Nov 14, 2008, 02:07 PM   #2
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That's great. Too bad Apple probably won't do that. Someone needs to come out with a user-friendly way to do this, however. I would gladly pay for the ability to use four finger gestures on my 1st gen Air.
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Old Nov 14, 2008, 02:07 PM   #3
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I don't think its a shock to anyone that this is possible on pre-October 2008 models. It's just apple being apple
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Old Nov 14, 2008, 02:07 PM   #4
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I wonder just how much of "gesturing" is really hardware-based if this pans out.
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Old Nov 14, 2008, 02:10 PM   #5
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Would a similar version of this "hack" work on previous-edition Macbooks? Or did the Macbooks ever get 4-fingered gestures?
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Has Apple ever been known to backwards-enable new functionality in old products? Not that I can think of, but I'm curious.
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Old Nov 14, 2008, 02:16 PM   #7
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Has Apple ever been known to backwards-enable new functionality in old products? Not that I can think of, but I'm curious.
Ipod Touch software updates, anyone?
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Would a similar version of this "hack" work on previous-edition Macbooks? Or did the Macbooks ever get 4-fingered gestures?
The pre-multitouch laptops have trackpads designed by Synaptics rather than Apple, if I recall.
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Would a similar version of this "hack" work on previous-edition Macbooks? Or did the Macbooks ever get 4-fingered gestures?
Previous generation MacBooks will not be able to.

There are 3 different types of trackpads out there:

Regular trackpad (non Multi-Touch) which does offer two finger scrolling
Multi-Touch Trackpad - came with MBA and Early 2008 MBPs
Glass Multi-Touch Trackpad - came with Oct 2008 MBs and MBPs

It seems the functionality of the Glass and the non Glass multi-touch are similar enough that they can both detect 4-finger gestures. I don't believe it's possible for the regular trackpads to do anything but what they already do.

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Old Nov 14, 2008, 02:18 PM   #10
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Apple for the longest time opposed a two button mouse, now they expect us to use two or more fingers? This is outrageous. Maybe in the future we can reboot our macs using a 12-finger gesture.
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Old Nov 14, 2008, 02:21 PM   #11
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Thanks, Jeff and Arn, for the reply to my question.

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Apple for the longest time opposed a two button mouse, now they expect us to use two or more fingers? This is outrageous. Maybe in the future we can reboot our macs using a 12-finger gesture.
LOL. That made me crack up.
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Old Nov 14, 2008, 02:24 PM   #12
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I wonder how much they would charge for this software update? $10? I would very highly doubt it would be for free given their reasoning behind charging for previous-gen iPod touch updates...
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Apple for the longest time opposed a two button mouse, now they expect us to use two or more fingers? This is outrageous. Maybe in the future we can reboot our macs using a 12-finger gesture.
Or perhaps they would design it to detect a single middle-finger gesture for reboots.
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Old Nov 14, 2008, 02:26 PM   #14
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I hate when apple does stuff like this.
Just because they want to have something new and unique on the newer laptops
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Old Nov 14, 2008, 02:28 PM   #15
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Has Apple ever been known to backwards-enable new functionality in old products? Not that I can think of, but I'm curious.
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Previous generation MacBooks will not be able to.

There are 3 different types of trackpads out there:

Regular trackpad (non Multi-Touch) which does offer two finger scrolling
Multi-Touch Trackpad - came with MBA and Early 2008 MBPs
Glass Multi-Touch Trackpad - came with Oct 2008 MBs and MBPs

It seems the functionality of the Glass and the non Glass multi-touch are similar enough that they can both detect 4-finger gestures. I don't believe it's possible for the regular trackpads to do anything but what they already do.

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Better description would be the following, actually:
  1. Regular trackpad (non Multi-Touch) does NOT offer two finger scrolling.
  2. Scrolling trackpad with two finger scrolling
  3. Multi-Touch Trackpad - came with MBA and Early 2008 MBPs
  4. "Glass" Multi-Touch Trackpad - came with Oct 2008 MBs and MBPs

2 finger scrolling was built-in to Macs and OSX from 2005 onward. Some pre-2005 laptops were able to have their trackpads 2-finger scroll enabled using a 3rd party driver, but G3 iBooks and TiBooks and before all are definitely "regular trackpads"
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Old Nov 14, 2008, 02:46 PM   #17
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Has Apple ever been known to backwards-enable new functionality in old products? Not that I can think of, but I'm curious.
IIRC, Apple added the 2-finger right-click to PowerBooks in 10.5. Before that, it was only a feature on the MacBook Pros. Maybe they waited for Leopard because purchasing Leopard counted as the "upgrade fee".
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Old Nov 14, 2008, 02:49 PM   #18
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I've used a MacBook Aluminum Restore DVD to get 4-Finger-Swipe on my 1st Gen MBA. It's great, but I use a BT Mouse most of the time so I don't really need it. I don't see why Apple wouldn't enable the feature later - or at least have the drivers for it in 10.5.6 --> you need to edit a plist file inside a ktext to enable it even with the right software.

This has also been reported in the MacBook Air forums on MR for almost a month now that the 4-finger swipe was possible - it just makes the front page now??
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Or perhaps they would design it to detect a single middle-finger gesture for reboots.
Of course since you never really need to reboot a Mac... except for software updates which you would presumably do on your own volition and not out of frustration

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Do you know why the new MacBook Air still has a button on the trackpad ?
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Why is this on Page One if your not going to show us how to perform the hack?
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Do you know why the new MacBook Air still has a button on the trackpad ?
I'm guessing they didn't want to have to redesign the case just to add that glass trackpad.

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Why is this on Page One if your not going to show us how to perform the hack?
it's linked off the article. click on it.

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Old Nov 14, 2008, 03:30 PM   #24
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I hate when apple does stuff like this.
Just because they want to have something new and unique on the newer laptops
yeah aple could just do it with a software update, but i doubt they would. that is what people want..sooo not very appleish, it's usually what they want,a nd we take it and think of t amazing and learn to love it..
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Has Apple ever been known to backwards-enable new functionality in old products? Not that I can think of, but I'm curious.
Wireless N enabler for Intel Wireless G iMacs, but yes you probably will have to pay for it like the enabler or the ipod touch updates.
Don't they claim they have to do this because of some weird fiscal accounting?
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