Latest Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard Builds Still Have Work to be Done

MacsRgr8 · Dec 2, 2008, 03:31 PM

Apple is giving us the new Snow Leopard builds!!

EDIT: tried a find, but couldn't find a thread on this topic.

xUKHCx · Dec 2, 2008, 03:39 PM

Any big changes noted in the seed notes

MacsRgr8 · Dec 2, 2008, 03:43 PM

Forgive me for not violating my NDA..... but reading the seed notes there still are MANY known issues...
Oh, and the Server requires an Intel with 2.0 GB of RAM. I'll give you that

xUKHCx · Dec 2, 2008, 03:49 PM

I figured as much but thanks for the info.

Have you followed previous development cycles? If so how does this compare to previous OS X releases?

MacsRgr8 · Dec 2, 2008, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xUKHCx

I figured as much but thanks for the info.

Have you followed previous development cycles? If so how does this compare to previous OS X releases?

I am still downloading this build. I have installed the previous version, so I'm dying to find out if it feels different, faster, etc.
I am on a 12 Mb connection, and downloading them both at the same time (2 x 6.2 GB...) takes a couple of hours, I'm afraid.

EDIT: pic of downloading

xUKHCx · Dec 2, 2008, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacsRgr8

I am still downloading this build. I have installed the previous version, so I'm dying to find out if it feels different, faster, etc.
I am on a 12 Mb connection, and downloading them both at the same time (2 x 6.2 GB...) takes a couple of hours, I'm afraid.

EDIT: pic of downloading

Sorry I meant in terms of 10.5, 10.4 etc. when referring to releases and development cycles.

MacsRgr8 · Dec 2, 2008, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xUKHCx

Sorry I meant in terms of 10.5, 10.4 etc. when referring to releases and development cycles.

Ah, I see.

Yes, I have followed those betas too (actually, from Jaguar upwards), and TBO reading these seed notes it doesn't really look like the development is half way yet.
Don't want to sound pessimistic, but having 2 pages of "issues" (installation issues, Time Machine network backup issues, other issues, Developer issues, Third party issues) makes me think that Snow Leopard seems at least 6 months away from Release Candidate.

Also lots of ".... not fully functional"

But... Apple never ceases to amaze me...

Sky Blue · Dec 2, 2008, 04:04 PM

Yes! nice nice nice. Any new notes on Exchange?

MacsRgr8 · Dec 2, 2008, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sky Blue

Yes! nice nice nice. Any new notes on Exchange?

Yep.
I'll say this: Apple is definitely working on it...

Sky Blue · Dec 2, 2008, 04:08 PM

Cool beans. Thanks for the heads up.

Quillz · Dec 3, 2008, 12:06 AM

I wonder if Apple will finally completely unify the UI in Snow Leopard... Leopard still has lots of Aqua artifacts left over, most notably the scroll bars.

MacRumors · Dec 3, 2008, 07:03 AM

AppleInsider reports that new seeds of Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard were recently distributed to developers.

The newest seed of Mac OS X 10.6 is said to offer new additions to Grand Central, which provides developers an easier way to harness the power of multiple processor cores. Apple's efforts to convert many of its existing apps to Cocoa are still underway but with much still left to be done on Font Book. Other areas that are undergoing ongoing revisions include power management for notebooks and 64-bit support.

While there had been some hints that Mac OS X 10.6 might arrive in the first quarter of 2009, Apple's official timeframe was "about a year" from this past June.

Article Link: Latest Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard Builds Still Have Work to be Done

La Porta · Dec 3, 2008, 07:07 AM

No need to rush - let's get it as stable as possible to make up for the 10.5 issues.

matthemercyless · Dec 3, 2008, 07:10 AM

Do we have any more information on whether Snow Leopard will support PowerPc based Macs? I have Leopard on my PowerBook and was wondering if it would benefit from the likes of using the GPU for general computing as promised in Snow Leopard?!

Sky Blue · Dec 3, 2008, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matthemercyless

Do we have any more information on whether Snow Leopard will support PowerPc based Macs? I have Leopard on my PowerBook and was wondering if it would benefit from the likes of using the GPU for general computing as promised in Snow Leopard?!

I'd say 99% chance it won't run on PPC, but until they say it officially you ever know.

Looking forward to getting rid of Entourage.

doctoree · Dec 3, 2008, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by La Porta

No need to rush - let's get it as stable as possible to make up for the 10.5 issues.

You are right, especially the following is worth the wait:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthre...=1#post6541117

Doc

Tallest Skil · Dec 3, 2008, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doctoree

You are right, especially the following is worth the wait:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthre...=1#post6541117

I refuse to believe that we'll see the performance increase that he's claiming. It's just not possible with software.

retroneo · Dec 3, 2008, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matthemercyless

Do we have any more information on whether Snow Leopard will support PowerPc based Macs? I have Leopard on my PowerBook and was wondering if it would benefit from the likes of using the GPU for general computing as promised in Snow Leopard?!

OpenCL will require a DirectX 10-Class GPU, which weren't in any PowerBook.

nado · Dec 3, 2008, 07:51 AM

What does the Cocoa Finder look like?

irishgrizzly · Dec 3, 2008, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retroneo

OpenCL will require a DirectX 10-Class GPU, which weren't in any PowerBook.

Do all Intel macs have this requirement?

motulist · Dec 3, 2008, 07:53 AM

It sounds like a ton of the major os components are being largely or totally rewritten. While that's a great move for the future, I'm gonna steer WIDE clear of the 10.6.0 version and wait till a couple of last digit updates come out. A major under-the-hood rewrite of the OS code is sure to cause some serious problems at first.

I applaud Apple for doing this really worthwhile under-the-hood work that probably isn't gonna get as much attention or sales as some of the flashier OS cats that they've released in the past, but it's a very worthwhile investment in their long term sales. Still, I'm not gonna load Snow Leopard onto my Mac until the fallout from this major code rewrite has been smoothed over.

MrCrowbar · Dec 3, 2008, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irishgrizzly

Do all Intel macs have this requirement?

GMA 950 (current Mac Minis, old Macbook) can't do DX10.
Guess I'll get some new hardware with Snow Leopard then.

themoonisdown09 · Dec 3, 2008, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motulist

It sounds like a ton of the major os components are being largely or totally rewritten. While that's a great move for the future, I'm gonna steer WIDE clear of the 10.6.0 version and wait till a couple of last digit updates come out. A major under-the-hood rewrite of the OS code is sure to cause some serious problems at first.

For the past 2 major OS releases, I've updated the day (or day after) it came out and haven't had any real problems. The main reason for this is probably because I don't use any of my Macs at my job, so I'm not on it all hours of the day.

guzhogi · Dec 3, 2008, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrCrowbar

GMA 950 (current Mac Minis, old Macbook) can't do DX10.
Guess I'll get some new hardware with Snow Leopard then.

I wonder if Macs will have Nehalem by the release date? If so, and Nehalem & Snow Leopard are as fast as people say, yowza!

137489 · Dec 3, 2008, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrCrowbar

GMA 950 (current Mac Minis, old Macbook) can't do DX10.
Guess I'll get some new hardware with Snow Leopard then.

So I can't upgrade my wife's mini - darn.

when you say old macbook, I hope your not referring to anything pre-aluminum.... I have an early 2008 whitebook.

Dec 2, 2008, 03:31 PM	#1
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Dec 2, 2008, 03:43 PM	#3
MacsRgr8 Thread Starter macrumors 601 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Netherlands	Forgive me for not violating my NDA..... but reading the seed notes there still are MANY known issues... Oh, and the Server requires an Intel with 2.0 GB of RAM. I'll give you that __________________ Drag and Drop for Windows users: DRAG your peecee off your desk, and DROP it in the trash.

Dec 2, 2008, 03:49 PM	#4
xUKHCx Demi-God (Moderator) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Kop	I figured as much but thanks for the info. Have you followed previous development cycles? If so how does this compare to previous OS X releases? __________________ The red men: Paul William Carlile (19), Raymond Thomas Chapman (50), Gary Christopher Church (19), Joseph Clark (29), Paul Clark (18)

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Sky Blue macrumors 68040 Join Date: Jan 2005	Yes! nice nice nice. Any new notes on Exchange? __________________ "The case is so square that it easily stands at attention as if begging for treats."

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Sky Blue macrumors 68040 Join Date: Jan 2005	Cool beans. Thanks for the heads up. __________________ "The case is so square that it easily stands at attention as if begging for treats."

Dec 3, 2008, 12:06 AM	#11
Quillz Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA	I wonder if Apple will finally completely unify the UI in Snow Leopard... Leopard still has lots of Aqua artifacts left over, most notably the scroll bars.

Dec 3, 2008, 07:03 AM	#12
MacRumors macrumors bot Join Date: Apr 2001	Latest Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard Builds Still Have Work to be Done AppleInsider reports that new seeds of Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard were recently distributed to developers. The newest seed of Mac OS X 10.6 is said to offer new additions to Grand Central, which provides developers an easier way to harness the power of multiple processor cores. Apple's efforts to convert many of its existing apps to Cocoa are still underway but with much still left to be done on Font Book. Other areas that are undergoing ongoing revisions include power management for notebooks and 64-bit support. While there had been some hints that Mac OS X 10.6 might arrive in the first quarter of 2009, Apple's official timeframe was "about a year" from this past June. Article Link: Latest Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard Builds Still Have Work to be Done

Dec 3, 2008, 07:07 AM	#13
La Porta macrumors regular Join Date: Dec 2006	No need to rush - let's get it as stable as possible to make up for the 10.5 issues. __________________ Proud owner of over 33 legacy Apple/Mac computers.

Dec 3, 2008, 07:10 AM	#14
matthemercyless macrumors member Join Date: Oct 2006	Do we have any more information on whether Snow Leopard will support PowerPc based Macs? I have Leopard on my PowerBook and was wondering if it would benefit from the likes of using the GPU for general computing as promised in Snow Leopard?! __________________ PowerBook 1.67Ghz - 100GB HDD, 2GB RAM. G4 Cube 450Mhz - 80GB HDD, 1.5GB RAM 8GB iPhone

Dec 3, 2008, 07:51 AM	#19
nado macrumors newbie Join Date: Aug 2004	What does the Cocoa Finder look like?

Dec 3, 2008, 07:53 AM	#21
motulist macrumors 68040 Join Date: Dec 2003	It sounds like a ton of the major os components are being largely or totally rewritten. While that's a great move for the future, I'm gonna steer WIDE clear of the 10.6.0 version and wait till a couple of last digit updates come out. A major under-the-hood rewrite of the OS code is sure to cause some serious problems at first. I applaud Apple for doing this really worthwhile under-the-hood work that probably isn't gonna get as much attention or sales as some of the flashier OS cats that they've released in the past, but it's a very worthwhile investment in their long term sales. Still, I'm not gonna load Snow Leopard onto my Mac until the fallout from this major code rewrite has been smoothed over.

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