Apple Suggests Possible Conspiracy Behind Psystar

MacRumors · Dec 3, 2008, 06:19 PM

Groklaw.net reports on the most recent legal filings from the Apple vs Psystar lawsuit which suggests that there may be unnamed individuals or corporations behind Psystar:

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But here's the big news. Apple alleges that it believes there are corporations and/or individuals behind Psystar, who may be added as defendants once Apple in discovery finds out who they are. Woah.
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So, Apple apparently believes that somebody else is behind Psystar, which might help to explain why a major law firm would take on what seems like a fly-by-night's case; also why Psystar has been so bold in continuing to sell its products. I knew this thing felt funny. As Alice in Wonderland might put it, "It gets interestinger and interestinger.”

The author suggests that Psystar's bold defense and ongoing sale of their Mac clones seems out of line with the small company's stature. Apple is reserving the right to add additional defendants to the case should their identities be discovered.

Psystar made headlines earlier this year when they began selling Mac OS X compatible PCs. Apple has since filed a lawsuit accusing them of copyright infringement and DMCA violations.

Article Link: Apple Suggests Possible Conspiracy Behind Psystar

xDYLANx · Dec 3, 2008, 06:22 PM

i dont understand why this is an issue. OS X is a registered trademark of Apple. Psystar should get shut down. Simple as that...

11800506 · Dec 3, 2008, 06:23 PM

Strangely enough, that actually might be possible. Any regular startup would have gone under ages ago, so the fact that Apple is suggesting this actually makes more sense of Psystar.

PlaceofDis · Dec 3, 2008, 06:24 PM

interesting development and almost makes sense. still wondering how all of this will pan out in the end.

majidf · Dec 3, 2008, 06:24 PM

Oh my, oh my what does'nt a healthy dose a day of paranoia do for you =)

Anyway, who would want to buy unsupported hardware anyway?

EricNau · Dec 3, 2008, 06:25 PM

I'm never a fan of conspiracy theories, but this is interesting nonetheless.

Axemantitan · Dec 3, 2008, 06:25 PM

I think that this guy looks awfully suspicious:

Do you think that he might have had something to do with it?

LloydBraun89 · Dec 3, 2008, 06:26 PM

isn't everything a conspiracy...

Kilamite · Dec 3, 2008, 06:26 PM

Interesting.

Might make me take more interest in this case than I have been..

Sirobin · Dec 3, 2008, 06:27 PM

I've always thought there was something suspicious about Psystar...this is really interesting if true.

SydneyDev · Dec 3, 2008, 06:28 PM

I think Alice said "curiouser and curiouser," not "interestinger and interestinger." Lol.

jbernie · Dec 3, 2008, 06:29 PM

Maybe the lawyers think they can get lots of $$$ from Apple somehow, with $25 billion or so in the bank they are an attractive target, even if the lawyers only get 10% of a few hundred million it is an attractive settlement opportunity.

Not saying Apple/Psystar are right/wrong, but gees, lawyers don't need much encouragement if $$$ are in the offing.

macadmiral · Dec 3, 2008, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Axemantitan

I think that this guy looks awfully suspicious:

Do you think that he might have had something to do with it?

yes! psystar directly funded by el gates!!! I love it. I hope they win

plumbingandtech · Dec 3, 2008, 06:30 PM

Very strange and out there...

but who knows?

Stranger things have happened.

My money is on a Dell / Taiwan Manufactor / Reverse Vampires / RAND Consortium

Chaszmyr · Dec 3, 2008, 06:32 PM

Makes a lot of sense to me. The profits Psystar (as an independent small company) stands to make if it wins the lawsuits probably aren't all that huge, compared to the hassle of a legal battle with Apple. However, other companies could benefit hugely if Psystar won, like Dell who could start selling OSX PCs, for example.

ezekielrage_99 · Dec 3, 2008, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SydneyDev

I think Alice said "curiouser and curiouser," not "interestinger and interestinger." Lol.

It was... Kind of funny when people misquote books.

My money is on the RAND Corporation in conjunction with the saucer people and reverse vampire... It make perfect sense.

Frisco · Dec 3, 2008, 06:32 PM

Common Apple just license your OS already. I know so many people that want OS X, but just can't afford/justify the Apple tax.

Yeah Yeah I remember the Apple clones of the 90s, but this is a different age and time.

jbernie · Dec 3, 2008, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MacRumors

The author suggests that Psystar's bold defense and ongoing sale of their Mac clones seems out of line with the small company's stature. Apple is reserving the right to add additional defendants to the case should their identities be discovered.

Take off the shelf cheap freely available pc parts
Add an Operating System
Have a smart person figure out how to do the updates
Pay a hosting company a small amount of money for updates
Sell said system
Hopefully profit.

That was difficult now wasn't it. Given the volume of sales it isn't like they need a massive amount of bandwidth etc for hosting their updates.

Harpo · Dec 3, 2008, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SydneyDev

I think Alice said "curiouser and curiouser," not "interestinger and interestinger." Lol.

YES, she did.

rdowns · Dec 3, 2008, 06:33 PM

I buy the fact that someone is behind this. Who it is, I have no idea.

LagunaSol · Dec 3, 2008, 06:35 PM

...I smell Ballmer.

137489 · Dec 3, 2008, 06:35 PM

Well, kinda figured there was more to the story. A no name company from out of nowhere suddenly has the guts to stand up to a multi-billion dollar corporation and its team of lawyers. and you know Apple has there lawyers on retainer, so they can drag Psyster through the mud and take as long as they want - otherwise Psyster would have given up, due to cost a long time ago (I mean they cannot be selling that many machines to be making money - any sales figures anyone?).

I would laugh if it was some big name company like Dell, IBM, etc. After all, IBM was looking at Apples, and Dell really wanted to sell OS X machines bad *and last look Dell's stock was not going that great.

Dell Inc. Dell Inc. NASDAQ DELL 10.55

Of course Apple is not so great right now with the market issues, but I saw Dell drop below $10 recently.

xDYLANx · Dec 3, 2008, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaszmyr

Makes a lot of sense to me. The profits Psystar (as an independent small company) stands to make if it wins the lawsuits probably aren't all that huge, compared to the hassle of a legal battle with Apple. However, other companies could benefit hugely if Psystar won, like Dell who could start selling OSX PCs, for example.

That would be a disaster. There's no way they can win. Mac users like us will still stick with Apple obviously. This will hurt Apple's market share and credibility. The more people than use the OS X platform, the more idiots are gonna want to program viruses.

plumbingandtech · Dec 3, 2008, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Frisco

Common Apple just license your OS already. I know so many people that want OS X, but just can't afford/justify the Apple tax.

Yeah Yeah I remember the Apple clones of the 90s, but this is a different age and time.

Please provide them with a business plan that supports your theory AND shows they would make MORE money then they do today.

Wait. Never mind, years of postings on this forum have shown why this would not work.

rpaloalto · 06:43 PM

I'll bet its monkey boy Steve Ballmer, who has is fat paw in this. I knew this smelled funny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvsboPUjrGc

Dec 3, 2008, 06:22 PM	#2
xDYLANx macrumors regular Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Oregon <3	i dont understand why this is an issue. OS X is a registered trademark of Apple. Psystar should get shut down. Simple as that... __________________ 2010 13" MBP; Base model iPhone 3G S⃣ 16GB White
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11800506 macrumors 65816 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Washington D.C. Area	Strangely enough, that actually might be possible. Any regular startup would have gone under ages ago, so the fact that Apple is suggesting this actually makes more sense of Psystar. __________________ Retina Macbook Pro 2.6 / iPhone 5
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PlaceofDis macrumors 604 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Chicago.	interesting development and almost makes sense. still wondering how all of this will pan out in the end. __________________ dim my eyes on the waves of confessions...
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Axemantitan macrumors 6502 Join Date: Mar 2008	I think that this guy looks awfully suspicious: Do you think that he might have had something to do with it? __________________ √-1 2^3 Σ π Favorite website: http://www.mammals.org/
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Kilamite macrumors G3 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland	Interesting. Might make me take more interest in this case than I have been.. __________________ 15" MacBook Pro 2GHz i7 4GB 750GB \| Mac mini 2.3GHz i7 16GB 1TB Fusion \| OS X 10.8.3 iPhone 5 64GB \| Apple TV 3 1080p \| iOS 6.1.4
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Dec 3, 2008, 06:24 PM	#5
majidf macrumors member Join Date: Jun 2005	Oh my, oh my what does'nt a healthy dose a day of paranoia do for you =) Anyway, who would want to buy unsupported hardware anyway?
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Dec 3, 2008, 06:25 PM	#6
EricNau Demi-God (Moderator) Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Francisco, CA	I'm never a fan of conspiracy theories, but this is interesting nonetheless.
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LloydBraun89 macrumors member Join Date: Jun 2007	isn't everything a conspiracy...
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Sirobin macrumors 6502 Join Date: May 2008 Location: California	I've always thought there was something suspicious about Psystar...this is really interesting if true. __________________ Mac Pro, 2.66 Hexacore, 20 GB RAM, 6870, 5 TB MBP, 2.5 Ghz, 4 GB RAM, HD 4000 iPhone 4 32 GB (Black), iPhone 5 32 GB (Black)
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SydneyDev macrumors 6502 Join Date: Sep 2008	I think Alice said "curiouser and curiouser," not "interestinger and interestinger." Lol.
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jbernie macrumors 6502a Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Denver, CO	Maybe the lawyers think they can get lots of $$$ from Apple somehow, with $25 billion or so in the bank they are an attractive target, even if the lawyers only get 10% of a few hundred million it is an attractive settlement opportunity. Not saying Apple/Psystar are right/wrong, but gees, lawyers don't need much encouragement if $$$ are in the offing. __________________ Talk is cheap, sometimes it is on sale! ibernie.com
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Dec 3, 2008, 06:30 PM	#14
plumbingandtech macrumors 68000 Join Date: Jun 2007	Very strange and out there... but who knows? Stranger things have happened. My money is on a Dell / Taiwan Manufactor / Reverse Vampires / RAND Consortium __________________ The Palm Pre is the new Sarah Palin.
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Dec 3, 2008, 06:32 PM	#15
Chaszmyr macrumors 601 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Boulder, CO	Makes a lot of sense to me. The profits Psystar (as an independent small company) stands to make if it wins the lawsuits probably aren't all that huge, compared to the hassle of a legal battle with Apple. However, other companies could benefit hugely if Psystar won, like Dell who could start selling OSX PCs, for example.
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Dec 3, 2008, 06:32 PM	#17
Frisco macrumors 68020 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Fran, CA	Common Apple just license your OS already. I know so many people that want OS X, but just can't afford/justify the Apple tax. Yeah Yeah I remember the Apple clones of the 90s, but this is a different age and time. __________________ Frisco
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rdowns macrumors Penryn Join Date: Jul 2003	I buy the fact that someone is behind this. Who it is, I have no idea. __________________ 44% of Republicans think an ARMED REBELLION might be necessary in the next few years. So if you say most Reps are nuts, you'd be off by 7%. - Bill Maher
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LagunaSol macrumors 601 Join Date: Apr 2003	Hmm... ...I smell Ballmer.
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Dec 3, 2008, 06:35 PM	#22
137489 Guest Join Date: Nov 2007	Well, kinda figured there was more to the story. A no name company from out of nowhere suddenly has the guts to stand up to a multi-billion dollar corporation and its team of lawyers. and you know Apple has there lawyers on retainer, so they can drag Psyster through the mud and take as long as they want - otherwise Psyster would have given up, due to cost a long time ago (I mean they cannot be selling that many machines to be making money - any sales figures anyone?). I would laugh if it was some big name company like Dell, IBM, etc. After all, IBM was looking at Apples, and Dell really wanted to sell OS X machines bad *and last look Dell's stock was not going that great. Dell Inc. Dell Inc. NASDAQ DELL 10.55 Of course Apple is not so great right now with the market issues, but I saw Dell drop below $10 recently.
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rpaloalto macrumors 6502a Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Palo Alto CA.	I'll bet its monkey boy Steve Ballmer, who has is fat paw in this. I knew this smelled funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvsboPUjrGc __________________ Mac Pro, ACD, iMac, Dell Mini Hackintosh, iBook g3, eMac + several iPods Last edited by rpaloalto; Dec 3, 2008 at 06:43 PM.
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