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Old Dec 12, 2008, 08:55 PM   #1
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MBA without any lines and what you think about the problem.

I started this thread thanks to MOD blue velvet for the idea, I for one don't have the lines at all and I have never seen the lines in any store, I do think some people have them, yep they are real however I think it is a very small percentage.
Those who have a MBA that is perfect, like to hear your thoughts.
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Old Dec 12, 2008, 09:00 PM   #2
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Macro pics of your screen, please?
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Old Dec 12, 2008, 09:14 PM   #3
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I, too am line free. I have the 1.86 GHz 128 SSD, week 44.
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Old Dec 12, 2008, 09:15 PM   #4
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I don't have any lines either. I believe that some people do but guess I got lucky.
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Old Dec 12, 2008, 09:25 PM   #5
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I've got a week 45, 128 SSD , 1.86. No lines. And have never seen them in the store either - I made a point of looking VERY closely.

Now, to be sure, like any LCD, if you examine the screen with your eyeball an inch away (or with a magnifying glass), you can see faint lines ... and, individual pixels for that matter!

Thus, I wonder how long it will be before we have someone who complains they can see these faint 'dots' (pixels) on their screen. That topic will then be bombarded when others also examine their screen with a magnifying glass and report the 'dots' and demand to have their 'defective' laptops replaced.
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Old Dec 12, 2008, 09:31 PM   #6
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I am a week 44 SSD. ordered mine ... early november when the HDD version shipping date jumped to indicate an extra 3 weeks wait at least.

Shipped from Shanghai the next day - and mine is perfect.

When I got mine - was only about a week after the first SSD version started arriving to people.

So - I will say this again (i posted it earlier in another thread)

The factories in China - must have some quality control. Howerver - the Olympics were in China this summer. Anyone who was employed to check the quality of the screens probably had their heads turned to watch the olympics - and therefore many bad batches of inferior screens got through the screening process.

I guess I too am just lucky....
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Old Dec 12, 2008, 09:34 PM   #7
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Guys, you have good news and I wish that my 1.6/120 HDD won't have lines also when it is delivered this Monday but why don't you provide pictures similar the the people having lines to make it easier for people to compare?

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Old Dec 12, 2008, 09:38 PM   #8
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it is very hard to shoot a screen I will try..
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Old Dec 12, 2008, 09:56 PM   #9
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Well as soon as I became aware of this topic I went to my local Apple Store and checked out the one Rev B Air they had on display and it was not hard to notice the lines. I then check the Rev A and I too noticed the lines but not as easily. I came home and looked at my wifes Rev A and again I noticed lines on it again not as easy as the Rev B. Unfortunately I've since sold my Rev A so I don't know if there was any lines visible on it or not.

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I've got a week 45, 128 SSD , 1.86. No lines. And have never seen them in the store either - I made a point of looking VERY closely.

Now, to be sure, like any LCD, if you examine the screen with your eyeball an inch away (or with a magnifying glass), you can see faint lines ... and, individual pixels for that matter!

Thus, I wonder how long it will be before we have someone who complains they can see these faint 'dots' (pixels) on their screen. That topic will then be bombarded when others also examine their screen with a magnifying glass and report the 'dots' and demand to have their 'defective' laptops replaced.
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Old Dec 12, 2008, 10:06 PM   #10
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Ironic, how about you try to push your screen all the way back and then take a photo at around 45 degree angle?

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Old Dec 12, 2008, 10:18 PM   #11
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Ironic, how about you try to push your screen all the way back and then take a photo at around 45 degree angle?

Thanks

Here you go

Left is Mine, Right is what people are saying it looks like.
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Old Dec 12, 2008, 10:21 PM   #12
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Mine looks like Ironics. No lines. Just pure MBAir bright, best display in Apples laptops goodness.
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Old Dec 12, 2008, 10:26 PM   #13
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I love my display, I also had the alum macbook, and this display is nicer, really didn't like the glass and black bezel.
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Old Dec 12, 2008, 10:27 PM   #14
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For what it's worth, even though I don't have a Macbook Air, I've tried hard at the Apple Stores and Best Buy stores I've visited to find the horizontal lines. On at least 3 different rev A machines and 2 different rev B machines I couldn't find any lines no matter what angle or how close I put my nose to the screen.
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Old Dec 12, 2008, 10:29 PM   #15
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For what it's worth, even though I don't have a Macbook Air, I've tried hard at the Apple Stores and Best Buy stores I've visited to find the horizontal lines. On at least 3 different rev A machines and 2 different rev B machines I couldn't find any lines no matter what angle or how close I put my nose to the screen.
I did the same thing as I want to see the problem and then I might understand the problem much better, but yet to find one.
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Old Dec 12, 2008, 10:35 PM   #16
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Place of purchase?

Hello

Besides McGilli, who else has ordered from the online store and who has purchased from a store (and which one, if you don't mind adding)?
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Old Dec 12, 2008, 10:38 PM   #17
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I did the same thing as I want to see the problem and then I might understand the problem much better, but yet to find one.
Ironic,

Don't know where you are located but I was there for Thanksgiving weekend and the sole Rev. B had the issue. They had a 1.6 Rev. A beside it and a unibody MacBook across from it, so it was easy to compare.

Of course, they could have swapped out the floor model by now, so... :-)
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Old Dec 12, 2008, 11:22 PM   #18
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I find it interesting too that a few people who have lines on their screens indicate that they get bad headaches when using the computer. It only seems to be a few people - but is that because their issue is severe, or they are just more temperamental? If it was a refresh rate issue I would understand it more - but onthe flip side :

When I am sick with a bad, bad cold - i CANNOT look at a lcd screen - whether it is a computer, or my LCD tv because it makes my head ache. and that is with all lcd devices that are operating normally and I can normally view without issue.

Lines on a creen? looks like parchment etc? then fine - you CAN look at that forever without getting headaches. headaches, while healthy seem to indicate something in the cycle of the lcd refresh rate - and not a processing defect of the screen material.

If everyone said we have lines - but that is it - no headaches - then i would say it is a defect in the processing of some of the screens.

but some people say they have headaches - and 'lines' don't cause headaches... unless u get a headache from looking at a paper notepad....
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Thanks Ironic. That looks perfect to me
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Old Dec 13, 2008, 05:12 AM   #20
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Thanks Ironic. That looks perfect to me
You are welcome, hard to shoot the screen, I hope others will post a picture or two of their perfect screen.
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Old Dec 13, 2008, 07:05 AM   #21
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I find it interesting too that a few people who have lines on their screens indicate that they get bad headaches when using the computer. It only seems to be a few people - but is that because their issue is severe, or they are just more temperamental? If it was a refresh rate issue I would understand it more - but onthe flip side :

When I am sick with a bad, bad cold - i CANNOT look at a lcd screen - whether it is a computer, or my LCD tv because it makes my head ache. and that is with all lcd devices that are operating normally and I can normally view without issue.

Lines on a creen? looks like parchment etc? then fine - you CAN look at that forever without getting headaches. headaches, while healthy seem to indicate something in the cycle of the lcd refresh rate - and not a processing defect of the screen material.

If everyone said we have lines - but that is it - no headaches - then i would say it is a defect in the processing of some of the screens.

but some people say they have headaches - and 'lines' don't cause headaches... unless u get a headache from looking at a paper notepad....
Mine has barely noticable lines. I do get a headache after a while though. It has to do with the picture feeling "slightly out of focus" if that makes any sense, due to the lines i guess. The flicker test picture in some other thread does flicker also, that might be the cause. Still deciding if i'm gonna get it replaced as i got the free SSD upgrade...
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Old Dec 13, 2008, 07:23 AM   #22
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Oh no, Ironic not only has horizontal lines but vertical lines! Joking aside... photos of perfect ones can be nice, never actually seen one. Ironic's one looks a bit too zoomed up and detailed, can even see every line of the cell.
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Oh no, Ironic not only has horizontal lines but vertical lines! Joking aside... photos of perfect ones can be nice, never actually seen one. Ironic's one looks a bit too zoomed up and detailed, can even see every line of the cell.
First i shoot one farther away, then they wanted a macro, now you say its to close
The last picture is just like the one posted with the lines same angle, if I had them they would show.
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Old Dec 13, 2008, 08:57 AM   #24
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Mine is OK

I have a week 46 with no lines and no issues.

I did send back my original that had a bad battery, but even that week 44 had a perfect screen.

I guess I have been lucky
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Old Dec 13, 2008, 09:36 AM   #25
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it is very hard to shoot a screen I will try..
what is this? funny...
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