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Old Mar 3, 2004, 01:31 PM   #1
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7/29/1985: Bill Gates' Letter to John Sculley

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Old Mar 3, 2004, 02:27 PM   #2
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hey, at least someone ran with gate's idea

pretty funny if it's true,
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Old Mar 3, 2004, 03:01 PM   #3
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pretty funny if it's true,
It's true. The full text of that letter and memo is included in my book, Apple Confidential 2.0. It's a shame that Apple didn't listen to Gates. If they had, Apple would probably be in Microsoft's position today, with the Mac OS as the world standard. Apple's history is full of "could have been" moments.
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wouldn't it mean that Mac OS wouldn't be 99% virus proof since so many people would try to make viruses for it?
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Old Mar 3, 2004, 04:32 PM   #5
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Mac OS inherently more secure than Windows

Mac's security is not based on obscurity--that's a common myth that many tech writers have laid to rest over the past year. That's not why there has never been a Mac OS X virus. Mac OS X is simply a better-designed, less-buggy, more security-conscious product than Windows.

Mac is a smaller target and that IS a great way to help Macs be safer. But that's just ONE piece of the puzzle. Macs ARE still a tempting target for a lot of reasons--including the challenge and prestige of being the first to make a virus for it, and the segment of people that are jealous of Macs, and high-profile targets like the US Army web site on OS X, and the fact that OS X is UNIX and thus familiar to many programmers, and the fact that OS X has been out for years to give them the chance!

Some references from a variety of perspectives regarding the technological reasons why Windows is so much more vulnerable than UNIX-based Mac OS X:
* http://ptech.wsj.com/archive/ptech-20031023.html
* http://www.baltimoresun.com/technolo...1353478.column
* http://www.newsobserver.com/gilster/...-2706278c.html
* http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/18/te...GUE-EMAIL.html
* http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2003Aug23.html
* http://www.csoonline.com/read/080103/patch.html
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that lettert is actualy a good read to see were this that and what could have been if such and such had done this that and everything else.. imho i think that apple did slack of for a while and now there back on track and i ve noticed lots of people looking into the Mac platform. not just big named companys either I am starting to see true Windows users look at the Mac platform and go well it looks easier than linux blah blah YOU WONT KNOW UNLESS YOU TRY !!! thats what my new saying is.
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It's true. The full text of that letter and memo is included in my book, Apple Confidential 2.0. It's a shame that Apple didn't listen to Gates. If they had, Apple would probably be in Microsoft's position today, with the Mac OS as the world standard. Apple's history is full of "could have been" moments.
I definitely think that if this would have happened, Mac wouldn't look like it does today...and there are those of us who don't think that would be a good thing.
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There's something to be said for a platform that has to be great to succeed. Microsoft can get by with mediocre. So could Apple perhaps--but for them it would hurt!
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Old Mar 4, 2004, 06:53 AM   #9
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I definitely think that if this would have happened, Mac wouldn't look like it does today...and there are those of us who don't think that would be a good thing.
I totally agree. I've been using windows for years and have got to the point where I just like Mac's so much more. I find myself wanting to avoid windows because I don't like the experience. If Apple had farmed out all those years ago I don't think we'd have the prestigious product line up that is available today. Who knows, if they did make that move 19 years ago I might even want to be switching to MS now because they have a smarter product - as it stands its the other way round. Apple has the best systems and the smartest software. I like being in the minority; driving a G5 is like driving a fast Mercedes. Note the number of cheap Fords and Vauxhalls on the roads, those guys are in the majority just like pc users of today. Apple is something to aspire too, what they've done is special; I just hope they can keep it coming for the next 20 years.
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