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Old Mar 17, 2004, 11:14 AM   #1
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Dual PowerMacs and Aluminum Displays?

MacRumors has received word that PowerMac and Display updates are in the final stages and should be released shortly. While we've not received a specific date for updates, previous unconfirmed rumors have hinted at March 23rd as the release date. Both PowerMacs (All Dual?) and Apple Displays are expected to be updated simultaneously.

According to sources, the new displays do resemble the recent artist rendition of upcoming Aluminum Displays based on a slide seen in a routine Apple presentation -- with monitor feet resembling the PowerMac G5 handles.
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Old Mar 17, 2004, 11:15 AM   #2
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Old Mar 17, 2004, 11:20 AM   #3
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It doesn't look adjustable

I was kind of hoping to have an adjustabledisplay, this looks rock solid.
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Old Mar 17, 2004, 11:26 AM   #4
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I was kind of hoping to have an adjustabledisplay, this looks rock solid.
I've heard several people complain about the lack of adjustability, not only for this artist's rendition, but also for the existing displays. I have a laptop so I don't have a separate cinema display, but isn't the third leg in the back adjustable, so you can change the viewing angle? Can someone clarify what they expect from an "adjustable" display?

As for the timing of the release, my guess is that they probably had these displays ready, but have been waiting for the joint release with the upgraded powermacs. My credit card is waiting....
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I've heard several people complain about the lack of adjustability, not only for this artist's rendition, but also for the existing displays. I have a laptop so I don't have a separate cinema display, but isn't the third leg in the back adjustable, so you can change the viewing angle? Can someone clarify what they expect from an "adjustable" display?

As for the timing of the release, my guess is that they probably had these displays ready, but have been waiting for the joint release with the upgraded powermacs. My credit card is waiting....
The current displays are tiltable... as in, they can be tilted up (by pushing back on the top of the display -- the back leg is spring-loaded and folds out ... it's a little awkward, but it works).

That's the only way they adjust for position though.

I've had the 17" for two years. I have not seen a single monitor that crisp or clear on any other computer in those 2 years (except others with Apple displays). Further, I've never needed to "adjust" it. It has such a great viewing angle that it's simply not a problem. Mine just stays in the default position and I use it happily from various angles. No distortion, no troubles.

I am looking forward to updates though, and extra flexibility never hurts. But I don't see a lack of "adjustability" as a major problem, and it wouldn't stop me from buying one if I were in the market for a display right now.
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Don't any of you see that "artist rendition" is a G5 turned sideways with a superimposed screen on it.. i mean come on i could have made that in PS in 2.5 minutes.. no lie.. i tried it.. I don't think they will look anything like anyone is expecting.
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Old Mar 17, 2004, 02:01 PM   #7
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Hi all,

My first post here so be nice!

Anyway, I'd like to comment on the adjustability question. I'm not sure where you're all from but in Europe ergonomical concerns have been quite a hot topic lately. For instance quite a few ICT government workers & employees have been getting courses on the subject.

What they recommend to employees AND people buying monitors is to buy flatscreens that are adjustable. It's a fact that lots of people complain from RSI, headaches, back- & neckpains... an adjustable screen amongst others could help. Apparently the optimal position for a computer screen is in front of you with the top of the screen at eyehight...

Since Apple hasn't yet got adjustable screens they wouldn't be considered in a growing number of cases.

Ergonomics will probably gain more attention so I think Apple should act on it as much as possible. "I have an Apple computer because it's good for my health..." Wouldn't that be nice!

Suprisingly even the latest Dell flatscreens we bought are adjustable. I wouldn't have thought a company like Dell would sacrifice profit margins for ergonomics.

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The current displays are tiltable... as in, they can be tilted up (by pushing back on the top of the display -- the back leg is spring-loaded and folds out ... it's a little awkward, but it works).

That's the only way they adjust for position though.

I've had the 17" for two years. I have not seen a single monitor that crisp or clear on any other computer in those 2 years (except others with Apple displays). Further, I've never needed to "adjust" it. It has such a great viewing angle that it's simply not a problem. Mine just stays in the default position and I use it happily from various angles. No distortion, no troubles.

I am looking forward to updates though, and extra flexibility never hurts. But I don't see a lack of "adjustability" as a major problem, and it wouldn't stop me from buying one if I were in the market for a display right now.

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Old Mar 17, 2004, 02:40 PM   #8
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I've heard several people complain about the lack of adjustability, not only for this artist's rendition, but also for the existing displays. I have a laptop so I don't have a separate cinema display, but isn't the third leg in the back adjustable, so you can change the viewing angle? Can someone clarify what they expect from an "adjustable" display?
have you ever used an imac? that's what i call an adjustable display.
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Adjustable displays

The three leg frame prohibits the display from adjusting to perfectly vertical. If they can't get perfectcly vertical, then "no sale."
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Old Mar 17, 2004, 11:20 AM   #10
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It would be quite disappointing if we waited this long for monitor updates only to have them still be un-adjustable.
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Old Mar 17, 2004, 03:39 PM   #12
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Err what resolution?
and what response time?
Contrast?
Brightness?

Give me the specs.

What I want

1900x1200 minimum
500:1 contrast ratio
250-300cd

then and only then is the 30" viable for me.

10-16ms response time minimum, for a 30" IMO this display will strugle at anything lower than 40-80ms.
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Old Mar 17, 2004, 03:47 PM   #13
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The current 23" is 1920x1200, I'd expect a lot more from a 30"!
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The current 23" is 1920x1200, I'd expect a lot more from a 30"!
Well obviously native should be the limit of the current hi end graphics card...2048 x 1536
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Old Mar 18, 2004, 05:58 PM   #15
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The current 23" is 1920x1200, I'd expect a lot more from a 30"!
Exactly, I was refering to a new 23".

The 30 would have to have somin alot higher otherwise it will look strange.
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Old Mar 17, 2004, 11:19 AM   #16
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I hope this means prices will generally fall for the other models. I still can't quite afford the $ for one of those Apple Cinema displays.
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Old Mar 17, 2004, 11:30 AM   #20
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any others waitting for 3.0ghz or are you going rev. b?

can't decide, still using an old 733hz, maybe we'll get the 3.0ghz now! (probably not, but still would be great!)
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Old Mar 17, 2004, 11:35 AM   #22
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I'm in for a rev. B model..

I saved the money to buy a 23" display togheter with the high-end G5.. awsome combination and I'm waiting for it since January..

I sure hope they arrive fast now.. I really really need it..
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Old Mar 17, 2004, 12:03 PM   #23
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more than just looks?

I would hope that it has taken Apple this long to update to the aluminum look because they are upgrading the specs too, and improving the technology. If they were just updating the casing/enclosure without any improvements, I will be sorely disappointed -- that would be something they could have done 6 months ago with the new G5s.
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any others waitting for 3.0ghz or are you going rev. b?

can't decide, still using an old 733h, maybe we'll get the 3.0ghz now! (probably no, but still would be great)

im on a 933 quicksilver and it still runs great... i can wait for the dual 3's plus that gives me more time to save up some cash... im just happy to see an update... i hope they are working in the bluetooth module as part of the basic package and not a BTO... also it would be nice if they gave you the wireless mouse and keyboard... at least the 3000.00 for the top of the line shouldnt nickle and dime you for wireless...
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also it would be nice if they gave you the wireless mouse and keyboard... at least the 3000.00 for the top of the line shouldnt nickle and dime you for wireless...
that's not possible. You have to set up a bluetooth device to work with a bluetooth-enabled computer. If all they provided you with is bluetooth mouse/ keyboard, you won't have any functioning input devices out of the box, meaning you can't set up the input devices... you need a mouse and keyboard to set up a bluetooth mouse and keyboard; get it?
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